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Title: Muslim flight attendant: I was suspended for not serving alcohol
Source: CBS
URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/muslim- ... t-expressjet-airlines-alcohol/
Published: Sep 3, 2015
Author: CBS Staff
Post Date: 2015-09-06 09:37:11 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 44251
Comments: 251

A Muslim flight attendant filed a complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission claiming she was suspended from her job for not serving alcohol, which is against her religious beliefs, CBS Detroit station WWJ-AM reports.

Lena Masri, an attorney for the Council on American-Islamic Relations Michigan, said Charee Stanley followed management's directions, working out an arrangement with her coworkers to accommodate passenger requests for alcohol.

However, Masri said, ExpressJet Airlines put Stanley on administrative leave after another attendant filed "an Islamophobic complaint" that referenced Stanley's head scarf.

"We notified ExpressJet Airlines of its obligation under the law to reasonably accommodate Ms. Stanley's religious beliefs," Masri said at a news conference in Farmington Hills on Tuesday. "Instead, ExpressJet close to violate Ms. Stanely's constitutional rights, placed her on administrative leave for 12 months, after which her employment may be administratively terminated."

Masri said the arrangement Stanley had with other attendants to serve alcohol for her had been working out fine since Stanley converted to Islam about a month after becoming a flight attendant for ExpressJet.

"I don't think that I should have to choose between practicing my religion properly or earning a living," Stanley said. "I shouldn't have to choose between one or the other because they're both important."

Contacted by WWJ-AM for comment, airline spokesman Jarek Beem responded with the following statement:

"At ExpressJet, we embrace and respect the values of all of our team members. We are an equal opportunity employer with a long history of diversity in our workforce. As Ms. Stanley is an employee, we are not able to comment on her personnel matters."

The Islamic-relations council is America's largest Muslim civil liberties and advocacy organization with the mission "to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding."

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#77. To: redleghunter (#25)

I support the Muslim woman. Serving alcohol to passengers is such a small part of her job. There are plenty of flight attendants who don't have a conscience issue with doing so. So let them serve it.

What right does she have to impose the burden of her work on the other stewardesses? How fair is that to the other stewardesses?

She HAD to have known serving alcohol was a part of the job when she took it.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   23:37:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Fred Mertz (#29)

My friend educated me on her marriage journeys this past Friday while we lunched together.

Marriage #1 hubby was not the father of her twin boys - marriage #3 hubby was.

Marriage #2 hubby adopted the twin boys that weren't his.

Then she married #3 hubby, the father of the twin boys.

Now she's on hubby #4 and she has found religion.

Got it?

Fred,I think we are witnessing the beginning of the newest reality teebee show.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   23:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: redleghunter (#46)

I would agree if she ran for clerk in Kentucky and sodomite marriage was legal. It wasn't when she was elected. KY in fact rejected sodomite marriage. It was against state law.

So comes along a 5-4 decision by judicial fiat, and all of a sudden the clerk is an outlaw defending state law.

Then she should resign. The oath she took was to obey the law, whatever and whenever if is passed. How it ends for her is very much in the air. It's hard for me to beleive that she has gained any points with God for refusing to rendering to Caeser what is Caeser's. A state sanctioned marriage is nothing more than a civil union. There is nothing spiritual or religous about it. A state license is not a sacrament, it's in essence a civil contract. Gays will still exist. And just like straights gays will still live together in a sexual relationship. Religions should leave civil union marriages to the stae and deal with a Holy Union (or whatever you wish to call it) that has spiritual and religious dimensions and significance.

As for the Muslim flight attendant, her complaint is still pure BS.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-09-06   23:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: redleghunter (#36)

She is being forced to endorse something she was never elected to do.

Correct me if I am wrong,but wasn't a part of her job requirement to follow and obey Ky law?

It is obviously legal in Ky for homosexual couples to marry,or this wouldn't be an issue.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   23:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: A K A Stone (#49)

Only one race the human race.

Seeems like you will believe anything.

Ever seen a pygmy Scandinavian?

Ever notice how all the people native to Asia look a tad different than you?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-07   0:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: A K A Stone (#53)

God made Adam and Eve. We are all decendants of them.

I guess that makes Cain and Abel MoFO's,right?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-07   0:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: redleghunter (#67)

I suppose that a general rule of conscientious objection based on religious principles is not a bad way to go. The key will be to be sure to apply that where it counts: on things like the draft, or release from military service once one has had a crisis of conscience.

But ultimately there will have to an imposition of God's Law, if the human law is made optional, because God's law does not require men to punish other men for, say, fornication, but it DOES require men to punish men for murder.

A general religious exemption for conscience would result in a very free society, with few legal norms. But Christian norms would still have to be imposed when it came to killing.

And people would have to tolerate a lot of very grim sexual business, as polygamy, child marriage, temporary wives, arranged marriages, marital sex rights (no such thing as marital rape) are all religious norms in some major religions.

You sort of have a choice: make a Christian nation, or live as a Christian among the pagans. If you make a Christian nation, the laws of the nation have to adhere to God's laws. You cannot pick and choose - to have God's Law where you want it (sex law, for example), but then disregard God's law and do what you want in other areas (economic law, for example, and warfare) because that's not a Christian nation at all. It's just another form of pagan nation.

In fact we live as a pagan nation, and we live as Christians among pagans. This imposes an immense number of burdens on us, because our faith is very much at odds with the world in which we live.

We face a dilemma, and it's a dilemma that is within the Law itself, that the Law and Scripture don't clearly answer. On the one hand, God very clearly authorized deceit as a tactic in warfare. Deceit in warfare was legitimate for God's people when fighting the heathen. They did not have to be open and truthful to their enemy when at war. They could trick him.

On the other hand, Jesus said "Let your yes be yes and your no be no", establishing a high demand of truth.

But on the other hand still, Jesus said that with regards to swearing oaths - and it is not at all clear under the Law of God that legitimate warfare deceit went so far as swearing false oaths to heathen enemies to trick them into a disadvantage. There is no example of that in either testament.

What, then, is the right answer?

Well, we each have to work that out for ourselves.

The Law says to honor your oaths, that God will hold you to them. But the law also provides a right of atonement and release from rash oaths that men tend to swear. And Jesus clarified: be truthful and don't swear oaths. But clearly if you're in a just war (most are not), you can deceive your enemy in battle. However, I don't think that goes so far as permitting you to swear false oaths before an enemy.

Which means, bottom line, that there are some jobs in this pagan world that Christians cannot take, because they are required to swear oaths to do things that Christians cannot do. CIA assassin, for example: this is not a role that a Christian can take...unless he really thinks that service to some national idol is worth eternal damnation.

It looks as though the pagans in America have found a way to scrape off county clerk as a job that can be held by Christians, because there's an oath, and then a requirement to issue things that some Christians find shock their conscience.

The REAL answer to all of this is for Christians to obey the ECONOMIC aspects of God's Law with regards to EACH OTHER. If we really did that, Christians would rapidly rise to be richer than Jews, and would be "the club" to join...but which would have a membership requirement that simply will turn back the worst pagans at the door.

Just consider if every Christian in earshot here followed the law. If we met in a conclave, discovered our assets and liabilities, used the assets to buy the freedom from debt slavery for the weaker members, and then used the cooperation to turn the fruits from ongoing labor into a system of interest-free lending and preferential cooperation to one another.

We all would find ourselves without mortgages or debts within a very few years, and then we would find ourselves with a lot of excess fruit, which could fund more Christian liberty, and enterprise. Just restoring that one simple rule among Christians - of no-interest debt - coupled with Christian sobriety.

Think what even two Christian neighbors could do for one another. And then multiply that out.

The Christians would not "drop off the grid", but remain very much active in the society, living and working. THEY would just be able to do it with interest-free debt, and they would favor each other in forming alliances and contracts and businesses, because of the fundamental trust and the complete lack of lawsuits.

It's what the early Christians did, and it gave them such an advantage over time in a pagan society that they ended up taking it over and changing it.

Unfortunately, we latter-day Christians have compromised with paganism such that we've incorporated pagan economics and concepts of recourse to civil law into the very heart of our own families. Which economically puts us down with the rest of the pagan cattle. Our ancestors sold our birthright for a mess of pottage (in the form of royal banners, conquests, slaves and easy divorce). Now we're economically no different from the pagans, and therefore not able to enjoy the communal security that early Christians had.

But we can change that at any time, but simply deciding to follow the law, and agreeing with each other to do that. There are many Christian churches and groups that are close enough to do it, they just need to actually DO it. If they were to start, and did so in a disciplined, loving and faithful manner, they would find that God rewards them quickly.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-07   7:46:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: sneakypete (#82)

Cain and Abel had sisters, and married them.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-07   7:46:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: TooConservative (#71)

Marriage is something between two and God. The state has no authority to authorize it or prohibit it, nothing it can grant.

A "marriage license" is REALLY a license to be able to take a certain set of tax breaks, and to get survivors benefits for Social Security et al.

Truth is, we are reaping the bitter fruit of Christian abandonment of their faith. Back when Christians were the vast majority, in a democracy they had the moral duty to make their civil laws BE God's laws, and to have a Christian society living under Christian law, which they instituted.

But that's not what Christians did. Christians were greedy and power hungry, so they behaved just like ancient Jews did - enforcing those parts of the law they liked, but disregarding everything they found inconvenient. And the trouble with THAT is that God didn't set up his Law as a TEST, "can they do it all?", but as the NECESSARY STRUCTURE for people to be able to all function happily and in health over the long haul.

The result of all of this has been to neuter Christianity and turn it into a Sunday social club, whose members even think that God's law should not be THE law, because, you know, separation of Church and state...(in other words: because Christians don't REALLY want to live under God's law. They want to live under their own laws but be assured of a happy afterlife.)

The clerk? Judges? How many imperial officials were Christians in the First Century?

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-07   8:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: sneakypete (#82)

God made Adam and Eve. We are all decendants of them. I guess that makes Cain and Abel MoFO's,right?

Even evolutionists say we all have a common ancestor.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   8:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: sneakypete (#76)

Did your faggot relatives die of aids? Did they spread their fag disease to others?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   8:21:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: sneakypete (#80)

Hey "fag gene carrier" Please show us where Kentucky law says she has to marry two faggots.

You can't because there are no laws.

You're such a dumb ass and a piece of shit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   8:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: SOSO (#79)

Then she should resign. The oath she took was to obey the law, whatever and whenever if is passed. How it ends for her is very much in the air. It's hard for me to beleive that she has gained any points with God for refusing to rendering to Caeser what is Caeser's. A state sanctioned marriage is nothing more than a civil union. There is nothing spiritual or religous about it. A state license is not a sacrament, it's in essence a civil contract. Gays will still exist. And just like straights gays will still live together in a sexual relationship. Religions should leave civil union marriages to the stae and deal with a Holy Union (or whatever you wish to call it) that has spiritual and religious dimensions and significance.

As for the Muslim flight attendant, her complaint is still pure BS.

You've gone to the dark side.

You support tyranny.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   8:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: sneakypete (#75)

Suppose the first three were to other women,and now she has sworn off tuna,and wants to slide up next to you?

How long has it been since you got any pussy? Sounds like your sex fantasy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   8:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: sneakypete, Fred Mertz, nativist nationalist (#78)

Marriage #1 hubby was not the father of her twin boys - marriage #3 hubby was.

Marriage #2 hubby adopted the twin boys that weren't his.

Then she married #3 hubby, the father of the twin boys.

I am curious if hubby #2, having adopted the twins, got stuck with child support for them when Kim married their birth-father (hubby #2). Since he adopted them, he would be their father legally and the birth-father's obligation would be terminated. So unless their birth-father (hubby #3) did adopt them when he finally married their mother, then hubby #2 (adoptive father) would be on the hook for child support.

Sounds like the ultimate cuckservative ripoff by hubby #3.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-07   9:06:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: redleghunter, TooConservative (#16)

So do the supporters of the KY county clerk who won't issue sodomy marriage licenses also support this Muslim's right to refuse serving alcohol as part of her legally prescribed job duties?

Yes I support this Muslim woman.

We have Baptists who work in our local restaurants waiting tables. One lady a family friend will not serve alcoholic beverages at the restaurant. Too easy, the assistant manager a Catholic serves the drinks.

The Muslim woman should also not serve pork sandwiches on the flight. Just like when vegans refuse to even handle meat.

I think we are clouding the issues . In one case it is an employee of a private business and in the other case we have an elected public official sworn to uphold the law. I see great areas of concern when a public official refuses to uphold the law....aka the lawless adm of the emperor .

Let's say for example that one of our conservative candidates who have supported Kim Davis wins the elections and properly declares that sanctuary cities violate Federal immigration laws. Then a municipal official ,citing their faith and command to welcome the stranger and alien in your midst ( Leviticus 19:34 ),decides to use the pretext of religious liberty to violate the law ...and further claims any action taken against them is a 'persecution of Christianity' . How would that President then address the contradiction? Davis should've resigned .That was the correct course of action. But if she wants to be a martyr for the cause fine .But she was wrong in telling her deputies that they could not issue the licenses even if they had no moral objection to it. Let's say a Muslim director of the Dept of Motor Vehicles refuses to issue licenses to women ,and also instructs all the clerks in his office to likewise refuse . There is the real slippery slope of this issue .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-09-07   9:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: tomder55 (#92)

Davis should've resigned

Liberal piece of shit position.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   9:15:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: tomder55 (#92)

There is the real slippery slope of this issue .

Sounds like you are talking about your boy friend and vaseline.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   9:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: tomder55, redleghunter (#92)

We have Baptists who work in our local restaurants waiting tables. One lady a family friend will not serve alcoholic beverages at the restaurant. Too easy, the assistant manager a Catholic serves the drinks.

She makes her living off a saloon whose customers are drawn there to drink alcohol to which she objects.

She is only particular about handling alcohol herself, not taking money from the sale of alcohol to others.

And there are no other local dry restaurants where she could work? Or do the drinkers just tip better and she wants in on the cash?

So could this Baptist woman, who presumably objects to prostitution as well as serving alcohol, work as the cashier in a brothel, as long as she doesn't have to do any whoring herself?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-07   9:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: tomder55, nolu chan (#92)

But she was wrong in telling her deputies that they could not issue the licenses even if they had no moral objection to it.

No she wasn't. That is the law.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   9:23:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: TooConservative, redleghunter, (#57)

Actually, we don't know what that county's voters think.

But we do know that the Constitution establishes a Supreme Court. The Constitution does not establish a Supreme County Clerk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDBiLT3LASk

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-09-07   9:45:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: A K A Stone (#96)

If you are an official of the state and you are not willing to uphold the law because you have a serious issue of conscience over a particular law, then you should resign.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-09-07   9:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Vicomte13 (#84)

Cain and Abel had sisters, and married them.

So it was just "regular" incest?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-07   9:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: A K A Stone (#87)

Did your faggot relatives die of aids? Did they spread their fag disease to others?

Is your worry about AIDS why you are so obsessed with homosexual sex and other men's asses?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-07   9:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: A K A Stone (#88)

Hey "fag gene carrier" Please show us where Kentucky law says she has to marry two faggots.

Show ME where it says in Kentucky law that faggots aren't citizens.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-07   9:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: tomder55 (#92)

The Muslim woman should also not serve pork sandwiches on the flight. Just like when vegans refuse to even handle meat.

I think we are clouding the issues . In one case it is an employee of a private business and in the other case we have an elected public official sworn to uphold the law. I see great areas of concern when a public official refuses to uphold the law....aka the lawless adm of the emperor .

.......

Let's say a Muslim director of the Dept of Motor Vehicles refuses to issue licenses to women ,and also instructs all the clerks in his office to likewise refuse . There is the real slippery slope of this issue .

EXCELLENT points.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-07   9:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: A K A Stone (#93)

Davis should've resigned

Liberal piece of shit position.

Yours is a un-American fascist piece of shit position,but I do thank you for finally admitting your want your religious cult to rule the country,much like Islam rules other countries.

I have no trouble at all picturing you and Grand Island volunteering to work as the "modesty police".

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-07   10:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: A K A Stone (#96) (Edited)

No she wasn't. That is the law.

The law also says there will be no official establishment of religion in this country.

BTW,there is no such thing as life after death,and you are NOT going to go to heavy,no matter how much hatred you spew to please your religious masters. You are going to die,and then rot.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-07   10:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: sneakypete (#101)

I never claimed they weren't citizens.

That is a another lie from you. Many lies come from you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   10:05:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: sneakypete (#104)

The law also says there will be no official establishment of religion in this country.

And there isn't. Which is good.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   10:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: sneakypete (#101)

Show ME where it says in Kentucky law that faggots aren't citizens.

I don't know of any states where they recognize gay men as a particular grouping in that way. The old sodomy laws never really named any person as a sodomite, they just criminalized sodomy as a behavior.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-07   10:07:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: sneakypete (#103)

I have no trouble at all picturing you and Grand Island volunteering to work as the "modesty police".

That is because you have quite an imagination.

I remember when the chicks used to go topless at Caesars Creek Beach. It didn't bother me in the least.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   10:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: A K A Stone (#105)

I never claimed they weren't citizens.

Of course you did. How else can you explain them not having the same rights aw other citizens?

Or are like Obomber and the rest of the left,and wish to create whole groups of "special affirmative action citizens" that have more rights than the rest of us?

If so,you are anti-American.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-07   10:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: sneakypete (#104)

BTW,there is no such thing as life after death,and you are NOT going to go to heavy,no matter how much hatred you spew to please your religious masters. You are going to die,and then rot.

So says the fool.

I recall another lie of yours. When you claimed you were agnostic and weren't sure if there was a God or not.

You sure lie a lot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   10:09:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: sneakypete (#109) (Edited)

Of course you did. How else can you explain them not having the same rights aw other citizens?

They have all the same rights as they should. Just not special rights to change definition to suit your families many perversions.

Just like a man can't join college womans basketball teams.

That isn't discrimination either.

Making you not only a liar but a hypocrite.

You want everything equal but not womens sports. Why is that hypocrite.

I know because you are just an asshole who can't get any pussy. That is why your wife left you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   10:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: A K A Stone (#105)

"I never claimed they weren't citizens."

He thinks that's relevant because he thinks citizens should be allowed to marry whomever they want. Brother-sister. Father-daughter. Three women. Four men. 8-year-olds (hey, they're citizens!)

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-07   10:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: misterwhite (#112)

If Pete spouted off this nonsense in the founders day. He would have been swiftly killed.

He is the enemy of America.

I don't even know why I let the asshole post here frankly.

I guess he amuses me. Or I am just to nice and fair minded.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   10:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: TooConservative (#107)

The old sodomy laws never really named any person as a sodomite, they just criminalized sodomy as a behavior.

There was even a famous case in Texas back in the late 60's or so where local cops were spying on a family for unstated reasons,and actually filmed the husband having anal sex with his wife while bent across the coffee table in their living room. They never did gather any evidence the couple were guilty of anything else,but they took them to trial for sodomy in the state court,and they got sentenced to 10 years in prison.

IIRC,the film they used while peeping through the crack in the Venetian blinds was used as evidence in court,and there never was any legal explanation for why they were peeping in on and filming private citizens in the privacy of their own home.

The Playboy Foundation and Hugh Hefner are the ones that brought this case to light and financed the appeal that got them out of prison.

My best guess is they pissed off some local political official that wanted something they were refusing to sell cheap. Local authorities got away with a lot of crap back in the pre-internet days,when they could keep stuff like this private.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-07   10:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: A K A Stone (#108)

I remember when the chicks used to go topless at Caesars Creek Beach. It didn't bother me in the least.

LOL!

I think you may be admitting to more than you intended.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-07   10:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: sneakypete (#109)

Or are like Obomber and the rest of the left,and wish to create whole groups of "special affirmative action citizens" that have more rights than the rest of us?

Mirror meet the Peter.

Peter wants special rights for faggots. Because he has loads of faggots in his family. His words not mine.

You and Obama agree on the faggots. I don't agree with anything Obama did. He is 100 percernt wrong on everything.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   10:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: sneakypete (#115)

LOL!

I think you may be admitting to more than you intended.

It's the truth. They used to go topless back in the 90's or early 2000's. I only witnessed two of them. My wife told me about them. It didn't bother me in the least. I like tits.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-07   10:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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