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Title: Muslim flight attendant: I was suspended for not serving alcohol
Source: CBS
URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/muslim- ... t-expressjet-airlines-alcohol/
Published: Sep 3, 2015
Author: CBS Staff
Post Date: 2015-09-06 09:37:11 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 44204
Comments: 251

A Muslim flight attendant filed a complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission claiming she was suspended from her job for not serving alcohol, which is against her religious beliefs, CBS Detroit station WWJ-AM reports.

Lena Masri, an attorney for the Council on American-Islamic Relations Michigan, said Charee Stanley followed management's directions, working out an arrangement with her coworkers to accommodate passenger requests for alcohol.

However, Masri said, ExpressJet Airlines put Stanley on administrative leave after another attendant filed "an Islamophobic complaint" that referenced Stanley's head scarf.

"We notified ExpressJet Airlines of its obligation under the law to reasonably accommodate Ms. Stanley's religious beliefs," Masri said at a news conference in Farmington Hills on Tuesday. "Instead, ExpressJet close to violate Ms. Stanely's constitutional rights, placed her on administrative leave for 12 months, after which her employment may be administratively terminated."

Masri said the arrangement Stanley had with other attendants to serve alcohol for her had been working out fine since Stanley converted to Islam about a month after becoming a flight attendant for ExpressJet.

"I don't think that I should have to choose between practicing my religion properly or earning a living," Stanley said. "I shouldn't have to choose between one or the other because they're both important."

Contacted by WWJ-AM for comment, airline spokesman Jarek Beem responded with the following statement:

"At ExpressJet, we embrace and respect the values of all of our team members. We are an equal opportunity employer with a long history of diversity in our workforce. As Ms. Stanley is an employee, we are not able to comment on her personnel matters."

The Islamic-relations council is America's largest Muslim civil liberties and advocacy organization with the mission "to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding."

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#13. To: TooConservative (#3)

So do the supporters of the KY county clerk who won't issue sodomy marriage licenses also support this Muslim's right to refuse serving alcohol as part of her legally prescribed job duties?

Your statement reeks with support for sodomites.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   16:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone, SOSO, sneakypete (#13)

Your statement reeks with support for sodomites.

No, it doesn't.

I'm asking if conservatives now support the "right" not to do the job an employee (or public official) agreed to do (instead of resigning from that job).

I'll point out that the KY clerk is on her fourth marriage. What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce. Does this much-married KY clerk think they should have the right to refuse to issue her and husband #5 a marriage certificate?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   20:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TooConservative (#14)

What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce.

That's an interesting angle. According to a k a Stone she has since found religion herself recently - so she's allowed to impose her religious beliefs on others now.

That didn't work out so well for her. I predict she'll be in jail until the GoFundMe money runs out.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-06   20:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative, liberator (#3)

So do the supporters of the KY county clerk who won't issue sodomy marriage licenses also support this Muslim's right to refuse serving alcohol as part of her legally prescribed job duties?

Yes I support this Muslim woman.

We have Baptists who work in our local restaurants waiting tables. One lady a family friend will not serve alcoholic beverages at the restaurant. Too easy, the assistant manager a Catholic serves the drinks.

The Muslim woman should also not serve pork sandwiches on the flight. Just like when vegans refuse to even handle meat.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   20:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TooConservative (#14)

I'm asking if conservatives now support the "right" not to do the job an employee (or public official) agreed to do (instead of resigning from that job).

I'll point out that the KY clerk is on her fourth marriage. What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce. Does this much-married KY clerk think they should have the right to refuse to issue her and husband #5 a marriage certificate?

An employee to a company is different then an elected official.

Please cite the Kentucky law that authorizes her to issue faggot pretend marriage licenses. You can't because no such law exists.

The Judge is a homosexual activist like the Peter.

She is in her fourth marriage. Irrelevant. She wasn't a Christian before.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   20:50:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: All (#17)

What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce.

Jesus said that there is no such thing as divorce. So they are correct.

There is no such thing as two men being married. No matter what the two hell bound dykes on the supreme court say.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   20:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: redleghunter (#16)

Yes I support this Muslim woman.

It is my opinion that whoever runs the company should make that decision.

You should be to fire someone for any reason. Even if unreasonable.

Afterall they own the business.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   20:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

We should not judge this Muslim woman. Just as back in the NT church those who refused to eat meat sacrificed to idols.

It's a conscience decision. Some are strong and some are weak. We don't judge.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   20:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Fred Mertz (#15)

so she's allowed to impose her religious beliefs on others now.

Lies.

The truth is the truth. Two men can't be married.

I don't associate with queers. But if one ever came up and told me they were married. I'd tell them they were full of shit. If they wanted to keep talking about it. I'd knock them out cold.

I used to be tolerant of them. No more.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   20:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#9) (Edited)

Who knows where this thing will go if the fundie leaders can put their petty jealousies and greed behind them long enough to unite?

Good point. She could be a modern Joan of Arc.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   20:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz (#15)

That didn't work out so well for her. I predict she'll be in jail until the GoFundMe money runs out.

Well, her son is one of her deputy clerks so he has been refusing to sign sodomy marriage certificates too. Not that anyone has asked him to. The other deputy clerks are all accepting them, probably eyeing running for the big money as county clerk themselves in 2016. But you do have to wonder which of the KY clerk's serial adulteries...ahem...marriages this son was a product of, particularly considering his possible status as a bastard child of this woman's adulteries.

According to a k a Stone she has since found religion herself recently - so she's allowed to impose her religious beliefs on others now.

Wow, that is handy.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   21:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#21)

I don't associate with queers.

How do you know?

I used to be tolerant of them. No more.

Yes, I remember the good ol' days when you were so well-known for your tolerance for Teh Gays.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   21:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: SOSO (#11)

I support the Muslim woman. Serving alcohol to passengers is such a small part of her job. There are plenty of flight attendants who don't have a conscience issue with doing so. So let them serve it.

I also support vegan airline attendants refusing to serve non vegan meals.

Why do so many people want to create conscience crisis to make them viloate their values.

Judge not unless we want to be judged.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: TooConservative (#24)

I don't associate with queers. How do you know?

I don't associate with queers.

If they are in the closet I wouldn't know.

There are no queers in my neighborhoood. At least not openly. A couple of dykes used to rent the house across the street. I pretty much ignored them. If they said hello I would say hello back. I'm not rude. I just wouldn't hang out with freaks like that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   21:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: redleghunter (#25)

I support the Muslim woman. Serving alcohol to passengers is such a small part of her job. There are plenty of flight attendants who don't have a conscience issue with doing so. So let them serve it.

I also support vegan airline attendants refusing to serve non vegan meals.

If the airline wants to make special accomodations for her. That is fine. If they don't they should be to fire her if they want to.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   21:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: redleghunter (#25)

Judge not unless we want to be judged.

Leaving out the entire passage perverts the meaning of what you quoted.

The Bible also says judge righteous judgement.

What you quoted basically means don't judge someone for faults that you have also. Don't be a hypocrite in your judgement.

I'm fairly certain I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   21:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: TooConservative (#23)

...marriages this son was a product of, particularly considering his possible status as a bastard child of this woman's adulteries.

My friend educated me on her marriage journeys this past Friday while we lunched together.

Marriage #1 hubby was not the father of her twin boys - marriage #3 hubby was.

Marriage #2 hubby adopted the twin boys that weren't his.

Then she married #3 hubby, the father of the twin boys.

Now she's on hubby #4 and she has found religion.

Got it?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-06   21:12:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TooConservative (#14)

I'll point out that the KY clerk is on her fourth marriage. What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce. Does this much-married KY clerk think they should have the right to refuse to issue her and husband #5 a marriage certificate?

I believe her divorces happened before she became a Christian.

But to answer the question. Yes I believe a Catholic if they knew she was previously married and divorced should have the liberty to refuse her a marriage certificate. Just as a Catholic refuses to perform abortions and write prescriptions for birth control. Yes I would lock arms with those Catholics if they were fired for standing on their faith and catechism.

We may not see issues with some of the reservations of others. But as commanded we strive not to offend.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Fred Mertz (#29)

Now she's on hubby #4 and she has found religion.

Got it?

I read on an opposition site that hubby 4 is hubby 2.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   21:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Fred Mertz (#29)

Got it?

That is not proper english. A grammar nazi such as yourself should know that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   21:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#19)

Well yes of course. However, it seemed she worked out an accommodation.

The airline will lose. Muslims in the West are a protected minority. They will lose big bucks.

It would have been better for the airlines if the woman was a Baptist. Then they could fire her and not worry about being sued.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#31)

I'm only going by what my friend told me at lunch while reading her status to me from his mobile device.

Having lived in Kentucky I've learned more than a few couples remarry after getting divorced, so what you wrote might be correct.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-06   21:17:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#32)

That is not proper english[sic].

Corrected: That is not proper English.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-06   21:18:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Fred Mertz (#15)

so she's allowed to impose her religious beliefs on others now.

What is she imposing on others? She is being forced to endorse something she was never elected to do.

This is what happens with judicial fiat.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: redleghunter (#30)

But to answer the question. Yes I believe a Catholic if they knew she was previously married and divorced should have the liberty to refuse her a marriage certificate.

Does that happen often?

I saw your previous comment also. I'm finished here. No reason to beat a dead horse. There are laws I don't agree with morally, like abortion, but what am I going to do? Burn down Planned Parenthood offices? String up doctors who perform them?

I don't think so.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-09-06   21:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: TooConservative (#23)

Wow, that is handy.

That is her testimony. That she was a damned, destitute sinner in need of Christ as Savior and Lord. People are born again every day.

Who am I to judge her conversion. Since her professed new birth we as Christians have only one thing to consider in her walk. This refusal to sign sodomite certificates.

So, so far she is doing pretty good.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:26:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: redleghunter (#25)

Why do so many people want to create conscience crisis to make them viloate their values.

Why do people knowingly take jobs that require absolutely legal and overwhelmingly socially acceptable duties? Her protest is pure BS.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-09-06   21:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone, nolu chan, SOSO, sneakypete (#17) (Edited)

Please cite the Kentucky law that authorizes her to issue faggot pretend marriage licenses.

You mean, the same laws that require her to issue interracial marriage licenses?

IOW, the decision of the Supreme Court when they decided decades back that miscegenation laws were unconstitutional and that a state could not forbid the marriage of a white man to a black or an Asian or a Hispanic.

So this KY clerk is already issuing marriage licenses based solely on previous decisions of the Supreme Court.

Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967),[X 1] [X 2] is a landmark civil rights decision of the United States Supreme Court, which invalidated laws prohibiting interracial marriage.

The case was brought by Mildred Loving, a black woman, and Richard Loving, a white man, who had been sentenced to a year in prison in Virginia for marrying each other. Their marriage violated the state's anti-miscegenation statute, the Racial Integrity Act of 1924, which prohibited marriage between people classified as "white" and people classified as "colored". The Supreme Court's unanimous decision determined that this prohibition was unconstitutional, reversing Pace v. Alabama (1883) and ending all race-based legal restrictions on marriage in the United States.

Yes, Kentucky was one of those states in the Loving verdict. All interracial marriage certificates in Kentucky have been issued solely on the authority of the Supreme Court's decision. No Kentucky laws were ever written to support interracial marriage.

Sixteen states saw their anti-miscegenation laws overturned by Loving v. Virginia in 1967:

Alabama (1819)
Arkansas (1836)
Delaware (1787)
Florida (1845)
Georgia (1788)
Kentucky (1792)
Louisiana (1812)
Mississippi (1817)
Missouri (1821)
North Carolina (1789)
Oklahoma (1907)
South Carolina (1788)
Texas (1845)
Tennessee (1796)
Virginia (1788)
West Virginia (1863)

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   21:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: redleghunter (#30)

I believe her divorces happened before she became a Christian.

So pre-Christian divorces can now be consider "free" divorces in moral terms and nothing a person did before becoming a Christian counts against them legally? I bet a lot of convicts would love to hear this news, including plenty on Texas's death row.

You don't actually want to seriously debate this point, do you?

Claiming you have become a Christian doesn't give you legal authority to overrule the Supreme Court. Because they're, like, Supreme and stuff.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   21:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone (#28)

Well yes you are right. But we are not talking about sin. We are talking about two people who have conscience issues. Most would just do what everyone else is doing. But the clerk and Muslim have standards we should not judge. They are not trying to offend other people...just following their conscience.

As Christians we should follow the advice in 1 Corinthians 8 on these matters.

But yes...the Muslim and the Christian clerk should realize that nonconformity may lead to suffering the consequences. So the Muslim should expect to be fired and the clerk should expect to be impeached or lose the next election. But we as Christians should not be advocating they compromise their conscience.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Fred Mertz, redleghunter, nolu chan (#29)

My friend educated me on her marriage journeys...

I got this far before I started laughing.

Till death (or a bad mood) do us our marriage journey part...

Marriage #1 hubby was not the father of her twin boys - marriage #3 hubby was.

Marriage #2 hubby adopted the twin boys that weren't his.

Then she married #3 hubby, the father of the twin boys.

Now she's on hubby #4 and she has found religion.

So is hubby #2 still the legally recognized father of the twins? Or did she switch those (in some newfangled court) to their baby-daddy, hubby #3? Or did she sweep them into some paternity deal with hubby #4?

Normally, a Kentucky marriage isn't quite so interesting.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   21:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Fred Mertz (#29)

Marriage #1 hubby was not the father of her twin boys - marriage #3 hubby was.

Marriage #2 hubby adopted the twin boys that weren't his.

Then she married #3 hubby, the father of the twin boys.

Now she's on hubby #4 and she has found religion.

Got it?

Sounds like another sinner has come to the fount of Grace.

But I don't know the woman nor her journey towards Christ. If she said she was a damned destitute sinner and repented of her sins to Christ. Who am I to judge her current walk. Has she been divorced since her conversion? Apparently not.

Jesus forgave a lot of repentant wicked people while He sojourned with us on earth. Some ended up following Him and contributing to His ministry with works befitting discipleship.

At the Gospel Mission home my friend runs he has encountered 4-5 time drug rehab failures. The joy in knowing that some of them after coming to Christ have never went back to drugs or alcohol abuse.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Fred Mertz (#37)

I saw your previous comment also. I'm finished here. No reason to beat a dead horse. There are laws I don't agree with morally, like abortion, but what am I going to do? Burn down Planned Parenthood offices? String up doctors who perform them?

I don't think so.

Don't know why you are finished here. Your comments are most welcome IMO.

There are many non violent ways to protest abortion. Find a clinic in your area and join the people who peacefully protest and lovingly encourage the mother not to abort. If that is too overt for you, volunteer at a pro life pregnancy crisis clinic. You don't have to be part of a church to do this, but you will find that 90% of those in the pro life movement are Christians.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   21:59:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: SOSO (#39)

Why do people knowingly take jobs that require absolutely legal and overwhelmingly socially acceptable duties? Her protest is pure BS.

I would agree if she ran for clerk in Kentucky and sodomite marriage was legal. It wasn't when she was elected. KY in fact rejected sodomite marriage. It was against state law.

So comes along a 5-4 decision by judicial fiat, and all of a sudden the clerk is an outlaw defending state law.

The sodomites could have found another county to get their false license. But instead they decided to test this woman's conscience.

Whatever happens, she wins as long as she does not give in to the darkness.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   22:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: TooConservative (#40)

You see sodomite marriage akin to interracial marriage?

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   22:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: redleghunter (#47) (Edited)

You see sodomite marriage akin to interracial marriage?

Both were imposed solely by the fiat of the Supreme Court in the state of Kentucky. And this is a Kentucky county clerk. She has no more authority to deny a sodomy marriage than an interracial marriage. And Kentucky had laws to prevent both sodomy and interracial marriages for a long time before the Supremes struck those laws down.

So, yep.

The sodomites could have found another county to get their false license. But instead they decided to test this woman's conscience.

Actually, they targeted her just to persecute her. They went out of their way to force her to refuse them a license. Attention whores.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   22:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: TooConservative (#40)

You mean, the same laws that require her to issue interracial marriage licenses?

No I'm talking about fag pretend marriage.

No such thing as interracial marriage. Only one race the human race.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   22:21:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: A K A Stone (#49)

No such thing as interracial marriage.

Well, Kentucky certainly thought so from 1792-1967 when the Supreme Court finally told them otherwise.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   22:23:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: TooConservative (#41)

So pre-Christian divorces can now be consider "free" divorces in moral terms and nothing a person did before becoming a Christian counts against them legally? I bet a lot of convicts would love to hear this news, including plenty on Texas's death row.

You don't actually want to seriously debate this point, do you?

Claiming you have become a Christian doesn't give you legal authority to overrule the Supreme Court. Because they're, like, Supreme and stuff.

You tucked in quite a few assertions I never made.

You called into question whether or not this woman should even consider making a stand on marriage because of her past. Well converted murderers, drug addicts and rapists do speak out to others about there former sins and law breaking. They should not, and most don't, seek pardons from their sentences. They are still bound to their temporal decisions and the consequences of such. Just as this woman is still suffering the temporal consequences of her previous divorces. It's happening here and in the media.

So the clerk a previous violator of marriage and now by her profession a repentant sinner, refused to sign a certificate for something she knows is wrong. It was her conscience decision to make.

The SCOTUS by 5-4 tyranny imposed its will on 50 states. A small county in KY just voted 1-0 against their tyranny.

I will let you judge the moral implications. I can't because I'm not God but you do a good job of that here from time to time.

It seems from Scriptures Christ can pardon this woman her past. All we have is her testimony and the MSM

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-06   22:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: TooConservative (#48)

She has no more authority to deny a sodomy marriage than an interracial marriage.

That is the dumbest thing I ever saw you write.

You're not opposed to sodomite pretend marriage.

You're not a true supporter of the first amendment.

You're not a true supporter of the 10th amendment.

You're not a true supporter of "no religious test" found in the constitution.

You're a supporter of usurption.

You would have been a supporter of Dred Scott.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   22:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: TooConservative (#50)

Well, Kentucky certainly thought so from 1792-1967 when the Supreme Court finally told them otherwise.

Who cares. It wasn't the truth then or now.

God made Adam and Eve. We are all decendants of them.

We just have different characteristics. One race the human race.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   22:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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