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Title: Muslim flight attendant: I was suspended for not serving alcohol
Source: CBS
URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/muslim- ... t-expressjet-airlines-alcohol/
Published: Sep 3, 2015
Author: CBS Staff
Post Date: 2015-09-06 09:37:11 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 44265
Comments: 251

A Muslim flight attendant filed a complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission claiming she was suspended from her job for not serving alcohol, which is against her religious beliefs, CBS Detroit station WWJ-AM reports.

Lena Masri, an attorney for the Council on American-Islamic Relations Michigan, said Charee Stanley followed management's directions, working out an arrangement with her coworkers to accommodate passenger requests for alcohol.

However, Masri said, ExpressJet Airlines put Stanley on administrative leave after another attendant filed "an Islamophobic complaint" that referenced Stanley's head scarf.

"We notified ExpressJet Airlines of its obligation under the law to reasonably accommodate Ms. Stanley's religious beliefs," Masri said at a news conference in Farmington Hills on Tuesday. "Instead, ExpressJet close to violate Ms. Stanely's constitutional rights, placed her on administrative leave for 12 months, after which her employment may be administratively terminated."

Masri said the arrangement Stanley had with other attendants to serve alcohol for her had been working out fine since Stanley converted to Islam about a month after becoming a flight attendant for ExpressJet.

"I don't think that I should have to choose between practicing my religion properly or earning a living," Stanley said. "I shouldn't have to choose between one or the other because they're both important."

Contacted by WWJ-AM for comment, airline spokesman Jarek Beem responded with the following statement:

"At ExpressJet, we embrace and respect the values of all of our team members. We are an equal opportunity employer with a long history of diversity in our workforce. As Ms. Stanley is an employee, we are not able to comment on her personnel matters."

The Islamic-relations council is America's largest Muslim civil liberties and advocacy organization with the mission "to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding."

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#3. To: cranky (#0)

So do the supporters of the KY county clerk who won't issue sodomy marriage licenses also support this Muslim's right to refuse serving alcohol as part of her legally prescribed job duties?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   10:58:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#3)

So do the supporters of the KY county clerk who won't issue sodomy marriage licenses also support this Muslim's right to refuse serving alcohol as part of her legally prescribed job duties?

Your statement reeks with support for sodomites.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   16:31:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone, SOSO, sneakypete (#13)

Your statement reeks with support for sodomites.

No, it doesn't.

I'm asking if conservatives now support the "right" not to do the job an employee (or public official) agreed to do (instead of resigning from that job).

I'll point out that the KY clerk is on her fourth marriage. What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce. Does this much-married KY clerk think they should have the right to refuse to issue her and husband #5 a marriage certificate?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   20:39:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TooConservative (#14)

I'm asking if conservatives now support the "right" not to do the job an employee (or public official) agreed to do (instead of resigning from that job).

I'll point out that the KY clerk is on her fourth marriage. What if she ran across a Catholic or Church of Christ or Jehovah's Witness serving as a county clerk who don't believe in divorce. Does this much-married KY clerk think they should have the right to refuse to issue her and husband #5 a marriage certificate?

An employee to a company is different then an elected official.

Please cite the Kentucky law that authorizes her to issue faggot pretend marriage licenses. You can't because no such law exists.

The Judge is a homosexual activist like the Peter.

She is in her fourth marriage. Irrelevant. She wasn't a Christian before.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   20:50:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone, nolu chan, SOSO, sneakypete (#17) (Edited)

Please cite the Kentucky law that authorizes her to issue faggot pretend marriage licenses.

You mean, the same laws that require her to issue interracial marriage licenses?

IOW, the decision of the Supreme Court when they decided decades back that miscegenation laws were unconstitutional and that a state could not forbid the marriage of a white man to a black or an Asian or a Hispanic.

So this KY clerk is already issuing marriage licenses based solely on previous decisions of the Supreme Court.

Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967),[X 1] [X 2] is a landmark civil rights decision of the United States Supreme Court, which invalidated laws prohibiting interracial marriage.

The case was brought by Mildred Loving, a black woman, and Richard Loving, a white man, who had been sentenced to a year in prison in Virginia for marrying each other. Their marriage violated the state's anti-miscegenation statute, the Racial Integrity Act of 1924, which prohibited marriage between people classified as "white" and people classified as "colored". The Supreme Court's unanimous decision determined that this prohibition was unconstitutional, reversing Pace v. Alabama (1883) and ending all race-based legal restrictions on marriage in the United States.

Yes, Kentucky was one of those states in the Loving verdict. All interracial marriage certificates in Kentucky have been issued solely on the authority of the Supreme Court's decision. No Kentucky laws were ever written to support interracial marriage.

Sixteen states saw their anti-miscegenation laws overturned by Loving v. Virginia in 1967:

Alabama (1819)
Arkansas (1836)
Delaware (1787)
Florida (1845)
Georgia (1788)
Kentucky (1792)
Louisiana (1812)
Mississippi (1817)
Missouri (1821)
North Carolina (1789)
Oklahoma (1907)
South Carolina (1788)
Texas (1845)
Tennessee (1796)
Virginia (1788)
West Virginia (1863)

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   21:33:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: TooConservative (#40)

You mean, the same laws that require her to issue interracial marriage licenses?

No I'm talking about fag pretend marriage.

No such thing as interracial marriage. Only one race the human race.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   22:21:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: A K A Stone (#49)

No such thing as interracial marriage.

Well, Kentucky certainly thought so from 1792-1967 when the Supreme Court finally told them otherwise.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   22:23:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: TooConservative (#50)

Well, Kentucky certainly thought so from 1792-1967 when the Supreme Court finally told them otherwise.

Who cares. It wasn't the truth then or now.

God made Adam and Eve. We are all decendants of them.

We just have different characteristics. One race the human race.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   22:30:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone (#53)

Who cares. It wasn't the truth then or now.

Well, it was true enough to send interracial couples to prison for 175 years in Kentucky.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-06   23:21:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone (#72)

As I understand it, she does not object to recording a sodomy marriage, merely to signing it in advance, considering that she is giving her official blessing to such a marriage in advance.

She objects to having her name on it certifying that is was authorized by her as County Clerk. State law required that her name be on the certificate. If state law changed and took her name off, then she would be accepting.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-08   13:10:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: nolu chan (#228)

She objects to having her name on it certifying that is was authorized by her as County Clerk. State law required that her name be on the certificate. If state law changed and took her name off, then she would be accepting.

But it is not "Kim Davis, private citizen" signing those licenses. It is "Kim Davis who embodies the lawful authority of an elected Kentucky county clerk".

It's silly to pretend that an official signing a document is rendering a personal political or religious decision. They are certifying, as required by law, that the applicants have met the state's (or federal) requirement to receive said license.

She has no basis at all to refuse on religious grounds. That she discriminates against hetero couples just as much as gay couples in a way to shield herself only compounds her guilt. Even by her own standards, she has and is violating the rights of the vast majority of couples (straight) applying for marriage licenses in her county.

I've begun to think she should be prosecuted and spend 6 months to a year in jail or in a state prison.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-08   13:34:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#241. To: TooConservative (#234)

That she discriminates against hetero couples just as much as gay couples in a way to shield herself only compounds her guilt.

Not handing out licenses to heteros is not discrimination. Not handing out any licenses at all is not discrimination and she has not been charged with discrimination.

What Federal crime are you going to convict her of? The State has taken no action against her. She is certainly not in violation of the State laws.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-08   16:30:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#244. To: nolu chan (#241)

Not handing out licenses to heteros is not discrimination. Not handing out any licenses at all is not discrimination and she has not been charged with discrimination.

She had handed out licenses to straight couples for years. Her sudden refusal to hand out licenses when some of the applicants were same-sex tells any court all they need to know. No judge will be fooled by this amateur window dressing.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-08   17:33:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#245. To: TooConservative (#244)

She had handed out licenses to straight couples for years. Her sudden refusal to hand out licenses when some of the applicants were same-sex tells any court all they need to know. No judge will be fooled by this amateur window dressing.

Of course! She believes in marriage, and gays getting together isn't marriage. So she refused to call it marriage, and refused to hand over a certificate that said it was marriage.

If she handed them out just to heteros, it would be discrimination on the face. By refusing the hand them out at all, under her name, she avoided the direct offense.

The mighty government came down and jailed her. Then let her go when it got its way.

Once again the government takes the side of evil. Once again, yet another Republican judge comes down on the side of wrong and commits oppression in support of evil.

And Christians are forced to choose between their state and its laws, or their God. This time, this woman chose her God. And many Christians criticized her. I was inclined to criticize the logic, but mainly to keep her out of jail. I'm more of the subtle-as-serpent type. She is unsubtle and straightforward and honest - and that is good, actually.

Christians are going to be challenged more and more. We see bakeries shuttered and people bankrupted because they won't make wedding cakes for gays. And we see photographers broken because they won't photograph gays.

Christians shatter and divide over these things. I think more and more that the ones who defy the law are the holy ones, and the ones who try to defend the law or the honor of the state, are the ones who are siding with evil, because they fear confronting it, and because they have made an idol of the law.

I'm halfway there. I DO fear the law and what the state can do. I have obligations, people depending on me. I cannot afford to make a beau geste that will imperil other people. So I will opt to be subtle as a serpent. But I'm not going to try so hard to criticize the braver ones. In fact, I admire them, and I'm going to root them on. For a time I was inclined to try to make peace with Caesar. I was also inclined to take the traditional read of Paul that would have "rulers" mean civil authorities.

But I'm more inclined to read rulers as meaning ecclesial authorities, and not the state at all. The bonds of loyalty are snapping, because the country is just too evil.

My ancestors left countries in Europe because they became too evil for their blood. America now has the most liberal abortion laws in the Western world, and a very aggressive approach to gay marriage that seeks to visibly crush, as an example, people who stand up to it. More and more, it seems as though the system itself is evil, the people who man it are evil, and that's erasing any residual feelings of affection I had for it.

I felt sorry for her all along. Increasingly, I think she is right.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-08 17:49:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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