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politics and politicians Title: Endgame? SurveyUSA poll finds Trump beating Clinton, all other Dems The poll by SurveyUSA finds that matched up directly, Trump garners 45 percent to Clinton’s 40 percent. In other head-to-head matchups, Trump beats out Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) by 44 percent to 40 percent; Vice President Joe Biden by 44 percent to 42 percent; and former Vice President Al Gore by 44 percent to 41 percent. The other interesting question that the phone survey (taken in the first few days of September) explored was the predictions of who would win the GOP nomination. Previously, even among Trump supporters, the largest number of people liked Trump but they didn’t think he was going to be the nominee. Now even that metric has flipped and 30% believe he will be carrying the GOP standard into the general election, while 20% still think it’s going to be Bush. (That would be the “follow the money” crowd I suppose.) One of the first objections which will be raised by both Democrats and Trump’s critics on the Republican side is that “it’s SurveyUSA.” We seem to hit at least one of these stories every election cycle, but the complaints don’t tend to hold a lot of water. Going all the way back to the 2010 midterms there were similar complaints lodged by people who didn’t care for their results, but even then Nate Silver was giving them positive marks compared to established names such as Rasmussen. Other polling firms, like SurveyUSA and Quinnipiac University, produced more reliable results in Senate and gubernatorial races. A firm that conducts surveys by Internet, YouGov, also performed relatively well. Still, this is just one poll and we’ll have to see a few more lining up in the same direction before we can declare a supportable shift in the tides. But the numbers seem to be following a pattern which has become ingrained in this season’s ongoing drama. So, assuming this data starts locking in for a while, what explains it? Had they only run Trump against Hillary there would be an easy out: Clinton’s numbers have been in free fall across the board for a while now and she’s currently so far underwater on her favorability and trust statistics that Trey Gowdy’s next investigation may include charges of her stealing artifacts from the wreck of the Titanic. In that light it would be simple enough to just say that everyone hates Hillary so they just hate The Donald a little less. But how then would we explain how he’s beating Bernie Sanders and even lovable Uncle Joe Biden? Something is happening here and it’s either going to turn out to be SurveyUSA hitting a serious glitch in their process or… can we say it out loud? The other choice is that everybody who does this for a living got this wrong. Trump is still breaking all the rules on a daily basis, but it’s becoming a very real possibility that the people out there getting ready to vote in the primary and the general election as well don’t really give a hoot about our rules. We have all lived to see interesting times. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 25. #6. To: TooConservative, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0) Biden is only down by 2 percentage points against Trump. This poll is meaningless because they didn't include the eventual GOP nominee, Jeb!/Rubio. Some real Republican POS Bushbots like that, will make Hillary's popularity skyrocket. Yes they can lose again, with the right (wrong) candidates! Joe Biden -2 Trump is just a spoiler to get Jeb!/Rubio nominated, so that they can lose by a landslide to Hillary.
#8. To: hondo68 (#6) The ticket will be Trump/Rubio. And they will beat Biden/Warren.
#11. To: Vicomte13, *2016 The Likely Suspects* (#8) (Edited) The ticket will be Trump/Rubio. And they will beat Biden/Warren. The GOP ticket will be Rubio/Fiorina, a pair of losers. The Global Elites want 1) "Minority", 2) "Woman". It's "Trendy", and Boehner and McConnell are desperate to appear "Cool". Mission Impossible! Jeb! will fall on his sword, and hand-off to Marco Rubio. Biden will stay out to avoid being called a sexist pig by Ms Clinton. The end result... 4 years of George W. Bush in drag (Hillary/Jorge Ramos).
#14. To: hondo68, TooConservative (#11) Trump is just a spoiler to get Jeb!/Rubio nominated, so that they can lose by a landslide to Hillary. Jeb is losing donors fast so the GOPe are looking at getting Mitt to run again... I think anybody that would abandon Jeb aren't going to go over to Mitt the Twit, they're 2 peas in a pod...
#25. To: CZ82 (#14) Jeb is losing donors fast so the GOPe are looking at getting Mitt to run again... Hilarious,ain't it? It's like they can't even be bothered to pretend they are conservative or represent the voters anymore.
Replies to Comment # 25. It's like they can't even be bothered to pretend they are conservative or represent the voters anymore. People like us who pay attention see what is going on, the average low information voter doesn't see all the contortions going on right now...
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