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politics and politicians Title: GOP insiders: C’mon, Trump’s not really going to run third-party If theres anything weve learned from the last two presidential election cycles, its to always trust the judgment of GOP insiders. President Trumps going to invite each of these guys up onstage at his inaugural ball and berate them publicly for being losers. Having considered these factors, Republicans appear widely to have decided it best to not take Trumps threat seriously. Underpinning this conclusion is a sense among Republicans that Trump, while certainly wealthy enough to fund a third-party bid, would not ultimately have the stomach for such a herculean undertaking. Even if ballot access and funding were not at issue, the campaign would almost surely be a losing one. I dont think he wants to spend half a billion dollars or more nor deal with the logistics to run a serious outsider independent campaign, said one strategist for a competing Republican campaign. So the only reason he is contemplating it is either (as an) empty threat, or he is a stalking horse for Hillary. Republican donor Fred Malek echoed to the Associated Press recently, Hes a businessman who will look at his potential for winning and decide it will be a poor return on his investment.
Dont placate, hammer him, [Koch Industries director of communications Steven] Lombardo tweeted. A damaged Trump is far less likely to run as Indie. The one part of that that rings true is the idea that Trump would be reluctant to blow big money on an effort which, realistically, can only lead to him being a spoiler. The WSJ noted just yesterday that hes been surprisingly frugal so far on campaign basics like advertising despite being the only billionaire in the race. Its hard to blame him for that: Why should he pay for an ad when he can dial up Fox News or CNN on a whim and instantly commandeer the next half-hour of airtime? Hes the king of earned media. If cable news loses interest, he can always dip into the Trump vault later to pay for attack ads. The problem is, though, its not just ads hes skimping on right now: Each week, he requires a budget for the next week from campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, who has groused to others about Mr. Trumps attempts to spend less money, said several people who have spoken with Mr. Lewandowski
The Republican presidential front-runner has bragged from the stump that he doesnt employ pollsters. He also resisted a push by Roger Stone, who left the campaign on Saturday, to buy paid TV time and bankroll a program to ensure that Mr. Trumps name appears on primary ballots in states where doing so involves a substantial investment, people familiar with the matter said
Mr. Trump also has been reluctant to tap his personal network of rich friends and associates to back his political efforts, according to three people with knowledge of the discussions. Why would he risk missing the ballot in some states when hes got money to burn to ensure that he makes it? One theory is that this is all a lark, that he doesnt intend on hanging around the race long enough to actually face the voters. But that cant be right; the guys ahead of the field and up by 20 points in some polls. If this thing started off as a joke, Trumpmania should have ensured by now that he realizes it isnt any longer. Another theory is
actually, I cant think of one. I can understand why he might refuse to buy ads on principle, knowing that hes larger than life and can get big media players to willingly hand over their own mics to him for free, but I cant understand why hed play chicken with ballot access. And if hes slack about ballot access in the primary, how slack would he be about ballot access as a third-party independent candidate? Roger Stone told Bloomberg TV this week that there are something like 15 to 20 states where the major parties can effectively boot a candidate from the ballot with the stroke of a pen. Trump will need to be prepared for that legal battle. Is there any evidence that he is? Anyway. Paint me a picture in which it makes sense for him go third-party. Obviously, hell only go that route if his support within the GOP deteriorates; if it doesnt, hell stick with trying to win the Republican nomination. So lets say Trump fades to 10 percent or so of the Republican vote by December and suddenly hes forced to choose between sticking with the party and facing long odds in Iowa and New Hampshire or dropping out to avoid them and becoming an independent. At that point, as an indie, hes nothing more than a spoiler; if he can hold the 10 percent of the Republican vote he had in the primaries through the general election (which is unlikely) plus, lets say, five percent of Democrats who refuse to vote for Hillary Clinton, hes looking at something like seven percent of the vote nationally. How much is he willing to spend on a single-digit third-party campaign? How many hundreds of millions of dollars more is he willing to spend to get to double digits knowing that hell still fall far behind Hillary and the Republican nominee? Maybe hed be willing to spend a bit if he thought it could land him onstage at the presidential debates, but then that would contradict his approach to the race thus far: Donald Trump, the Donald Trump, doesnt need to pay anyone for a microphone. The only way I can see him enjoying a third-party campaign is if he kept it lean and mean and made it explicitly a protest phenomenon. Imagine one or two major events each month followed by lots of cable appearances attacking Hillary and the GOP nominee as two sides of the same bought-and-paid-for ruling-class coin. Imagine if he decided not to bother with ballot access at all and made his campaign slogan, Write in Trump. Everyone knows him, everyone knows how to spell his name, so anyone whos intent on voting for him wouldnt need to see that name pre-printed on a ballot. They could provide it themselves. That might be good enough for five percent of the vote if he promotes his candidacy right, which might in turn be enough to sink the GOP nominee in a close election. And it could all be done for less than $100 million in paid media probably. If his fortunes in the GOP decline, why isnt that the next best option? Heres Roger Stone on the ruling class pissing its pants. Poster Comment: The full Stone video is well worth watching for various tidbits about the campaign so far. RealClearPolitics, 13min: Former Trump Advisor Roger Stone: "The Ruling Class Is Pissing Their Pants," "A Threat To Two-Party Duopoly" Stone was Trump's principal political adviser for many years as Trump mulled a run. Stone was big on Gary Johnson's 2012 campaign, I've read. And a lot of referenda around the country where he works as a hired gun. Notice the mention of how Trump could be blocked by the state GOP organizations in a third of the states for any reason at all. This is what Trump apparently means by the RNC "treating him fairly" and Stone is where he got that info. The lack of any visible move toward a national organization shows Trump has not made any real commitment to actually running. Weekly budgeting does sound like someone lacking confidence in their campaign manager or they're not serious about running a national campaign. No word on whether Trump has opened even one campaign office -- he'll need dozens -- and staffed/equipped them. At present, Trump's campaign is his 757 jet and a luxury bus that is in Iowa (or due there shortly) and a former contestant from his show serving as his Iowa campaign spokesman. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 1.
#1. To: TooConservative (#0)
The best thing that could happen for the future of this country is that Trump, by one method or the other, will rip the Republican Party to pieces along with the parasites in it. Eventually, the ordinary people may get a chance at representative government as a result.
#5. To: rlk (#1)
Could not agree more!!!
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