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Title: Hillary Clinton May Go to Prison
Source: Breitbart
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... lary-clinton-may-go-to-prison/
Published: Aug 11, 2015
Author: Joel B. Pollak
Post Date: 2015-08-11 20:17:55 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 7808
Comments: 75

Hillary Clinton is going to prison–or would be, if she were an ordinary prison. The FBI has reportedly taken possession of the emails on her home computer server, according to U.S. officials cited by the Associated Press.

According to Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), at least two of the emails contained “Top Secret, Sensitive Compartmented Information.”

An ordinary person–or even a well-known leader like General David Petraeus–would be prosecuted for moving classified information onto a private system. And that is just the beginning of her legal problems.

Clinton not only allegedly exchanged classified information via private e-mail, but also destroyed her emails before handing them over to the State Department before the government could determine for itself which were personal and which were job-related. That could constitute a felony, with a three-year prison sentence attached. And that is just the beginning of what is known.

It is worth noting, too, that much of the information emerging on Hillary Clinton first emerged from three sources: the Benghazi select committee, which the left attempted to dismiss; the independent Judicial Watch organization, which submitted key Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests; and the thorough research of Peter Schweizer, who documented Clinton’s alleged conflicts of interests.

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#1. To: cranky (#0) (Edited)

This time, the Clinton magic may not be able to save her.

This time, the Clintons have given Obama the weapon by which he can destroy their power base for good and take over full control of the party.

Biden will be the nominee. Obama will pardon Hillary before he leaves office, but not before the Election.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-11   20:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13, cranky (#1)

I heard on Fox that the FBI has seized her server and the thumb drive.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-11   21:07:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: cranky (#0)

I am beginning to become all teary eyed about Clinton, now. BoooHooHoo, boohoohoo ... hip hip hooray!

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-11   21:10:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13, cranky (#2)

Just for info, I have been involved on the receiving side of missent SCI information. The authorities, for Hillary the FBI or DIA, show up in a hurry to track down anyone who could possibly have seen or learned of the information, and then get non-disclosure agreements signed by each and all of them. That is just for the innocent people with Top Secret clearances (but not SCI access authorization). In Hillary's case, as she took no effort to protect the stuff, but forwarded it without markings. It's a mess.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-11   21:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nolu chan (#4) (Edited)

In Hillary's case, as she took no effort to protect the stuff, but forwarded it without markings. It's a mess.

If it's maskirovka, it's a pretty bold one.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-11   21:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: cranky (#0)

Hillary Clinton is going to prison–or would be, if she were an ordinary prison.

Careful attention to detail, proofreading every line for accuracy...

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-11   21:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

Biden will be the nominee. Obama will pardon Hillary before he leaves office, but not before the Election.

You should give us a trigger warning. Or at least cross your legs.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-11   21:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

Hillary had just handed in her Clintonized sworn declaration that she had turn3ed over all her email. “I have directed that all my emails on clintonemail.com in my custody that were or potentially were federal records be provided to the Department of State, and on information and belief, this has been done.”

Which does not speak to whatever might have once been, but are no longer, in her custody. And then the FBI scoops up her email server and thumb drive.

No text below due to NYT and WAPO source.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/11/us/politics/all-emails-were-provided-hillary-clinton-says-in-statement.html

All Emails Were Provided, Hillary Clinton Says in Statement

By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT
AUG. 10, 2015

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-lawyer-hands-over-private-e-mail-server-thumb-drive-to-fbi/2015/08/11/64681dc2-407c-11e5-8d45-d815146f81fa_story.html

Clinton’s attorney hands over private e-mail server, thumb drive to FBI

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-11   21:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: cranky (#0)

That could constitute a felony, with a three-year prison sentence attached.

For a military SCI comm worker that would likely mean an immediate loss of SCI access authorization and perhaps loss of all security clearance.

I wonder how they handle a loss of security clearance or SCI access for a presidential candidate, or a president in office.

I stress one more time that Hillary was personally the original classifying authority for the State Department and she was personally responsible for protecting the information.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-11   21:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: cranky (#0) (Edited)

" Hillary Clinton May Go to Prison "

I know there are people here that can do it, i would love to see her Photoshopped with a prison uniform on, LOL!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-08-11   21:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Stoner (#10)

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-11   21:45:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: cranky (#0)

The Hillary/CNN spin.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/11/politics/hillary-clinton-email-server-justice-department/index.html

Hillary Clinton to give her private email server to Justice

By Elise Labott, CNN

Updated 8:34 PM ET, Tue August 11, 2015

(CNN) Hillary Clinton has instructed her attorney to hand over her private email server and a thumb drive of all her work-related emails to the Justice Department in an effort to blunt an expanding probe into the use of a private email account.

[...]

Merril said in the meantime, Clinton's team "has worked with the State Department to ensure her emails are stored in a safe and secure manner."

Something tells me that the FBI was not asking.

I sure would like to know how Clinton's team has worked witi the State Department to ensure her mishandled SCI information is stored in a safe and secure manner. In the military, that stuff is pretty much limited to the brass and the spook community. The Navy facilities that handle it have Marine guards.

Virtually none of the TS cleared people would have had authorization to possess, store, or read it. Uncleared lawyer David Kendall would not be authorized. Ordinary TS material is mild by comparison.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-11   21:46:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Stoner (#10)

I know there are people here that can do it, i would love to her Photoshopped with a prison uniform on, LOL!

I hope you know it's been done to death already.

That last one is from the charming 1984arkansasmotheroftheyear.blogspot.com.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-11   21:57:44 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#11)

Good one, Bucky. This server, flash drive stuff is just theatrics for the masses.

If she got elected to the office of NY Senator, she can get away with anything.

Just my observation and opinion.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-08-11   22:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#11)

Thanks Buckaroo

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-08-11   22:05:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#13)

" I hope you know it's been done to death already. "

No, I did not, but I guess I should have.

Thanks for your pictures.

Lets hope it becomes reality, but at this point in time, I doubt it will. She still has all of those FBI files to blackmail with.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-08-11   22:08:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Fred Mertz (#14)

If she got elected to the office of NY Senator, she can get away with anything.

I fully agree about not only her Hindass corruption but the US government, as well, in all of this subterfuge. She is GODDAMNED TERRORIST.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-11   22:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

You can't pardon someone before they are convicted. At least I don't think you can.

Trump gets in and she will go to prison.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-11   22:25:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: nolu chan, redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#12)

AoS was getting into the classification system.

UPDATE: FBI SEIZES HILLARY'S THUMB DRIVES
Top Secret Emails Found In Private Accounts Run Through Hillary's Private Servers

—Ace

This f'n' woman.

McClatchy reportts:

As pressure builds on Hillary Clinton to explain her official use of personal email while serving as secretary of state, she faced new complications Tuesday. It was disclosed her top aides are being drawn into a burgeoning federal inquiry and that two emails on her private account have been classified as “Top Secret.”

The inspector general for the Intelligence Community notified senior members of Congress that two of four classified emails discovered on the server Clinton maintained at her New York home contained material deemed to be in one of the highest security classifications -- more sensitive than previously known.

UPDATE: AP: FBI "TAKES POSSESSION" OF HILLARY'S SERVER, LAWYER'S THUMB DRIVE:

The media's silence on this will be spectacular.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A U.S. official says the FBI has taken possession of Hillary Rodham Clinton's emails, a few of which have been deemed to contain classified information.

The official is not authorized to be quoted by name and requested anonymity.


The official says the FBI recovered two thumb drives containing the emails from Clinton’s lawyer, David Kendall.

Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley says two of the emails, which traversed Clinton's insecure home email server, were deemed "Top Secret, Sensitive Compartmented Information." That’s one of the government's highest classifications.

That is indeed one of the highest level of classification. I think the only higher levels are levels of classification you're not even permitted to know the names of.

This compartmentalized information is what is called Codeword Clearance, I think: You have to be cleared by a special codeword to see the information. That is, it's not just top secret; it's like top secret/GOLDEN TEMPLE, with "GOLDEN TEMPLE" being the codeword of the compartment of information.

You don't just need a Top Secret clearance to see it -- you have to be cleared specifically for GOLDEN TEMPLE information.

So this is either the highest level of classified information, or the highest we know about. (Daniel Moynihan spoke of there being a higher level he couldn't even mention in a 60 Minutes interview.)

Update: KG, who sounds like he knows what he's talking about, writes:

Compartmentalized means you have to be 'read in' to that particular information.. you sit in a SCIF [I believe this is a room where you can read the secret information, but are not permitted to take notes or remove it; this is the "skiff" you hear about Congressmen reading the TPP info in--ace] of some kind, someone who is cleared to handle the information hands it to you, you read through it and then sign some paper work. You then are 'cleared' to read material with that particular code word. So, in other words, just because you have a TOP SECRET clearance does not mean you have access to any and all TOP SECRET classified material. Most TOP SECRET material has one or several code words attached to it. That way, only the people with 'need-to-know' have access and it limits the vulnerability of the information.

Hillary better be prosecuted for this. If she isn't, it is maddening and, personally, I think the whole system collapses. How could you prosecute someone else for a lesser offense after letting Hillary go. She is in deep doo-doo and must've believed herself untouchable due to her 'Clinton' name. This is jail-worthy stuff.

Update: The articles confused me speaking of both "Hillary's server" and a "private email account."

I wrote the emails were in Hillary's private emails.

AllahPundit suggests otherwise: he says that the emails were on her servers, in private emails used by her aids and such, and thus, in a way, "her accounts," but not actually her accounts. Like one of her henchmen's accounts.

I will go with Allah's more cautious reading for now. I have corrected the headline and article to reflect this nuance.

More:


I believe, from Wikipedia, that SI/TK are sorts of SCI information, but I'm not sure.

Confirmed: Schindler says yes, SI and TK are specific codewords in the SCI classification system. As you can see, SI = Special Intelligence and refers to signals intelligence (radio, telephone intercepts); TK = Target Keyhole and refers to satellite intelligence.

"NOFORN" means "NO FOReign Nationals," i.e., US citizens only, no sharing with foreign counterparts.

Whoops! Guess that last one's out the window!



That last tweeted image was this juicy bombshell.



Is this the Betrayal Of Hitlery that Vic has prayed for, to be shortly followed by Biden entering the race?

Nolu, you really should call the IG's office with some questions at the number listed. I'll bet you have some doozies.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-11   22:25:37 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)

Trump gets in and she [Hillary] will go to prison.

How do you know? Did he tell you and you have evidence to present to us?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-11   22:27:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

You really underestimate the Clintons. They have dirt on everyone in DC. Look for some Dem Senators to after the Clintons only to have an equal amount of GOP senators to start backing off them.

That is called the Potomac two step.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-11   22:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: nolu chan (#2)

I heard on Fox that the FBI has seized her server and the thumb drive.

I can only imagine what's on the thumb drive. Not to mention no classified anything is allowed on thumb drives now.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-11   22:35:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: nolu chan (#4)

The authorities, for Hillary the FBI or DIA, show up in a hurry to track down anyone who could possibly have seen or learned of the information, and then get non-disclosure agreements signed by each and all of them. That is just for the innocent people with Top Secret clearances (but not SCI access authorization). In Hillary's case, as she took no effort to protect the stuff, but forwarded it without markings. It's a mess.

I guess the FBI will have to travel to Moscow and Beijing to get some signed:)

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-11   22:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeroo (#20) (Edited)

How do you know? Did he tell you and you have evidence to present to us?

My observation and understanding of the political scene is unmatched.

While you and so called experts were saying Trump would go nowhere and wouldn't even meet the requirements for the main debate. I told you different.

In other words I'm smarter then you are.

That is why you are on my site and I'm not on yours. :)

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-11   22:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#24)

My observation and understanding of the political scene is unmatched.

Did you ever state that you voted for McCain as POTUS?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-11   22:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: nolu chan, TooConservative, GarySpFc, liberator, Vicomte13, tomder55, CZ82 (#9)

I wonder how they handle a loss of security clearance or SCI access for a presidential candidate, or a president in office.

About half the politicians in Washington DC would not qualify for TS SCI clearance if they held the same standard as they did for us.

You know the questions on foreign travel, foreign acquaintances, MONEY (read debt, foreclosures etc.) Not to mention sexual harassment, abuse, and assault.

Half the people in elected office would fail the NORMAL requirements. That's what makes this such a farce.

Just look at Obolo. It took him 4 years to produce a birth certificate and there are so many holes in his timeline from HS age to the 90s. Wonder who did the background check on him for his clearance?

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-11   22:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#11)

LOL buck that didn't take long to find:)

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-11   22:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: redleghunter, Stoner (#27)

seconds actually. Stoner asked and I complied for cheap. :)

buckeroo  posted on  2015-08-11   22:51:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#18)

You can't pardon someone before they are convicted. At least I don't think you can.

Annoyingly, a president has broad discretion in pardons. Including pre-emptive pardons.

You recall that Ford gave a "full, free and unconditional pardon" to Nixon on 9/8/74. The classic case.

Wiki: List of people pardoned or granted clemency by the President of the United States

Obola's list is pretty short, meaning he is cooking up a real doozy of an outbound pardon. Mass mass pardons for illegals or for non-violent drug offenders. Something big. It would be consistent with his low character and craving for some durable achievement, anything really.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-11   22:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#18)

You can't pardon someone before they are convicted. At least I don't think you can.

Trump gets in and she will go to prison.

Yes you can. Ford pardoned Nixon before he was even indicted.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-11   22:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: redleghunter (#26)

It took him 4 years to produce a birth certificate and there are so many holes in his timeline from HS age to the 90s. Wonder who did the background check on him for his clearance?

Maybe it was Trump. You recall his yuge investigation with a posse of retired former deputies of Sheriff Joe, looking into that mysterious birth certificate.

If Oily Taitz is queen of the Birthers, then Trump is King of the Birthers.

Funny how some people seem to forget this stuff so quickly. They're like children.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-11   22:59:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TooConservative (#19)

I hope AoS moves their "virtual" location. They had some comments up there they should have never posted.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-11   23:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: redleghunter (#32)

I hope AoS moves their "virtual" location. They had some comments up there they should have never posted.

I didn't read their comments.

I also didn't read your comment about their comments and have no idea what you're talking about.

I know nothing. I really just mindlessly post this stuff without ever reading it at all. I am barely literate to begin with.

Finally: I...did not...have sex with that AoS server.

    : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-11   23:09:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: TooConservative (#19)

[Article] The inspector general for the Intelligence Community notified senior members of Congress that two of four classified emails discovered on the server Clinton maintained at her New York home contained material deemed to be in one of the highest security classifications -- more sensitive than previously known.

There are only three classifications: Confidential, Secret, and Top Secret.

A security clearance does not give access to anything. It only makes one eligible for a grant of access.

The responsible official can grant access authorization to subordinates on a need-to-know basis. According the to book, nobody has any level of access based on their position (except maybe the President?).

SCI is not a classification but a designator for Secret Compartmented Information. Indicators such as NOFORN (No Foreign Nationals) and LIMDIS (Limited Distribution) are caveats. Each limits access to the information. SCI is extremely limited outside of the intelligence community.

On that last 11 August 2015 Memo:

TOP SECRET/SI/TK/NOFORN

Top Secret, Special Intelligence, Talent Keyhole, No Foreign Nationals

Nolu, you really should call the IG's office with some questions at the number listed.

This is way above the IG. I don't want to get anywhere near this shitstorm.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-11   23:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: redleghunter (#23)

I guess the FBI will have to travel to Moscow and Beijing to get some signed:)

Unlike the Petraeus compromise, this one is untrackable. Basically, everything must be assumed compromised due to hacking, and known compromised due to mishandling resulting in unauthorized distribution.

Sidney Blumenthal and his source may also have a problem.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-11   23:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: TooConservative (#31)

Trump is King of the Birthers.

Funny how some people seem to forget this stuff so quickly. They're like children.

Forget? I didn't know. Now I like him better.

Obama was probably born in Kenya. He's a citizen by birth, probably, because of his mother, and therefore "natural born", but that issue should have been vetted by the public in the electoral cycle, but was instead squashed.

I'm glad that Trump did not let it go, if what you say is true. What a mensch!

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-08-11   23:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone (#29)

Essentially, the President's pardon power is plenary, i.e., without limit. Nixon was pardoned for any crimes he may have committed, without naming any.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-11   23:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: nolu chan (#34)

This is way above the IG. I don't want to get anywhere near this shitstorm.

I think I wouldn't call that number either.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-11   23:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: nolu chan, redleghunter (#34)

SCI is not a classification but a designator for Secret Compartmented Information.

Compartmentalization policy doesn't just concern who can read something, it also applies to allowed venues for transmission of info, where a person can read it, whether any copy can be made or any notes taken, requirements to present credentials at an authorized location to read it, etc. So there are various protocols that can be attached to compartmentalized info. One way to implement SCI is how they allowed the congressmen to read the TPP materials a few months ago. I recall that Rand Paul said he didn't have to sign documents when he read it but a couple of his staffers that read them with him did have to sign off. That was reading in a SCIF room in the Capitol. They have other SCIF rooms for the Intel and Defense committees in House and Senate. But SCI goes well beyond just secured reading rooms at the Capitol. It has wide scope across the government in diplomacy, the military, intel agencies.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-11   23:37:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: redleghunter, TooConservative (#32)

They had some comments up there they should have never posted.

I suspect you have zeroed in on SI AND TK, mainly TK. Keyhole is no longer a compartment. Talent Keyhole is an unclassified designator for a collection of other stuff.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-11   23:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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