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Title: The Trump Goes On
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Weekly Standard
URL Source: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs ... campaign-will-end_1007525.html
Published: Aug 8, 2015
Author: Steven F. Hayes
Post Date: 2015-08-10 07:34:18 by Tooconservative
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Views: 7986
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It’s not over. And it’s likely to end badly. In an interview on CNN last night, Donald Trump suggested that Megyn Kelly’s tough questioning was inspired by her menstrual cycle. “You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes,” Trump told CNN's Don Lemon on Friday night. “Blood coming out of her—wherever.” He refused to apologize, of course, but after widespread condemnation, Trump, who is running on candor and straight talk, sought to explain his comments in a Tweet. “Re Megyn Kelly quote: ‘you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever’ (NOSE). Just got on w/thought.’” It’s a comment that might end any other presidential campaign. Trump is different, in part because this isn’t a campaign. It’s an extended media-driven ego ride. From the beginning, he’s played by different rules because the media have let him. Trump works just blocks from the headquarters of the major broadcast and cable outlets. But as he’s rolled out his Trump for President brand, he has gotten journalists to come to him. He sits for interviews in the gilded atrium of Trump Towers, a nice home field advantage and one that sets him apart from the other politicians sitting in boring studios. Trump has conducted frequent telephone interviews on cable networks, sometimes several times a day, and last weekend did “phoners” on two Sunday morning political shows. (Has any other candidate this cycle, in either party, been given an opportunity to do a television interview by phone?) If he were asked policy questions, the arrangement would give him an unfair advantage, with the opportunity to answer questions with a cheat sheet in front of him and Google at his fingertips. But substantive questions about the country and its problems are the exceptions in Trump’s conversations with journalists, who prefer to ask him about his latest controversial comment or seek to provoke the next one by asking him about his opponents. (Trump’s comments about Kelly didn’t provoke any follow-up questions from CNN host Don Lemon, whose interview with Trump continued for several more minutes). So the cycle continues: Trump says something outrageous that may or may not have any relevance to serving as president, he’s asked about it in a largely substance-free interview, and ratings climb—along with Trump’s name ID and poll ratings. Trump is right, sadly, when he boasts that he is partly responsible for the 24 million viewers who tuned into the debate Thursday night. He has convinced himself that people watch because they love him and in a limited sense, he’s probably right about that, too. While I suspect that the Trump hype is driven by curiosity more than admiration, there is no doubt some segment of the population that is properly understood now as “Trump supporters.” That segment is small and will be shrinking in the coming weeks, but it won’t disappear. The true Trump apologists are way too far in now. They've invested too much to bail on him. So his defenders will become increasingly desperate to convince people that this is all part of the establishment's failure to understand their anger and the media's failure to appreciate Trump’s appeal. That’s backwards. It's not that the media have failed to give Trump enough credit; we’ve given his supporters too much. We assumed that at some point they'd embarrassed to be associated with him: If not his slander of Mexican immigrants, then perhaps his mockery of POWs; if not his kindergarten Twitter insults, then perhaps his sad and compulsive boasting; if not his incomprehensible answers to substantive questions at the debate, then maybe, finally, his juvenile and misogynistic put-down of the female moderator Those who still remain Trump supporters seem to be beyond shame. It doesn’t matter that they’re angry about the incompetence in Washington. Turning to Trump to solve the problems in Washington is like turning to an ape to fix a broken refrigerator. It’s embarrassing, but rather than embarrassment, the Trump followers will feel more anger and their pose will shift from self-righteousness to victimhood. And many of them will dig in further. More worrisome, for conservatives and for the country, so will Trump. As he’s abandoned by more rational beings, Trump, a man of deep and evident insecurity, will need these remaining supporters as validation that it’s the world that’s gone crazy, not him. They will encourage him to march on, guided by the misapprehension that there are many more behind them, perhaps hard to see, but following in the distance nonetheless. Trump will tout this support and insist, unconstrained by reality, that he can win. (This is the man who continues to say Hispanics love him and will support him, despite polls showing his favorability among Hispanics in the mid-teens). As Republicans scramble to distance themselves—with many candidates denouncing his remarks about Kelly, as they had his mockery of John McCain—Trump will feel the swelling pride of a man whose bluff is being called. Treat me nicely or I’ll leave, he warned repeatedly. This is why Bret Baier’s first question Thursday was the single most important question of the debate. Although Trump had left open the possibility of running third party, in the days leading up to the debate he had backed away from those threats. “I’m pretty confident in the answers I’ve gotten from him,” Sean Hannity said Wednesday night. “I’ve asked him a few times. I’m pretty confident he’ll never run third party.” Less than twenty-four hours later, Trump reversed himself again, raising his hand to show he wouldn't pledge support for the eventual Republican nominee. When Baier asked if Trump meant to be conveying what he seemed to be saying, Trump responded, twice: “I fully understand.” Trump threatened to leave if Republicans treated him badly. Now, because he’s a churl and a buffoon, Republicans have no choice but to treat him badly. It’s foolish to pretend to know how it all ends. But one thing is certain: It won’t end well.
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#71. To: redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#70)
They must have called Vic this time. I see why the Dims prefer Biden. The Xlintons compromised too much on the lib agenda and they don't trust them not to do it again. The big Wall Street banks behind Hitlery do not make her any more attractive to the Dim voter herd.
I was responding to your #SurveyMonkey comments as not scientific. I provided what RealClear recorded state by state from local newspapers. I was not making the point that who leads now will lead later. In fact my comments conclude differently. So regardless of #SurveyMonkey, most state polls show Trump ahead NOW. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
A lot of it will just go away. Trump has pulled in a lot of people who'd given up hope. Come November they'll stay home, unless he's running as an independent. They were never JEB's.
We will know for sure that will happen if Biden jumps in the race. imagine the reaction if Trump had said "Evita is never off the rag " . On that I think even Chrissy Matthews would support Trump:) "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Those 8 million stay-at-home registered Republicans said 'hello' to Obama's second term. Did the GOP learn anything? Doesn't look like it. Perhaps 16 million Republicans staying home will catch their eye. Does that need to happen?
Very likely.
Almost guaranteed if Trump is the GOP nominee.
So you're saying 8 million stayed home for Romney because he wasn't liberal enough and 16 million will stay home for Trump because he's more conservative than Romney? In other words, the GOP is going in the wrong direction with their candidates.
Yes, but Giuliani never had ME. (And your tent feels so empty without me.)
Did you get this from SNL??? :) I think Romney actually is a lot more conservative than Trump in his personal life and in his business life. Some of you guys are really closing your eyes to Trump's long history. He is no conservative. Well, unless your reasoning is along the lines of:
The tent is overrated.
If Bush is the nominee that is a sure thing. So we better get someone like Cruz or Trump in there. No way I vote for Bush. I know maybe two people that would vote for Bush. He isn't their first choice either. I know a whole lot of people who wouldn't. I know a lot of people who never voted before who would only vote for Trump.
No it isn't. Trumps support started at 3 percent and grew because of what he said. Bush has name recognition. But he is behind Scott Walker and Carson. I guess they have higher name recognition then Bush.
I believe your reasoning is: 1. I am a conservative. "Some of you guys are really closing your eyes to Trump's long history. You mean as a businessman? Sure, in one sense. Now he's running for President. Priorities change.
Touché. But I don't have a long and documented history of liberal political statements. Trump does.
I think part of the Trump surge is just people wanting to know what he's going to say next. He is totally unscripted.
Bush was liberal to moderate. Didn't you vote for him?
Liberal political statements as a businessman. Interests and priorities are different when running for office.
So he was all for the Kelo decision as a businessman and used it to evict some old lady because he coveted his neighbor's property. But, as president, he'll suddenly swing into line with conservative policy on eminent domain seizures? What kind of magical thinking is this? Why would you even believe that? He's not going to change at all. I doubt he's capable of it.
I had 4 chances to vote for a Bush. I only failed once to reject the Bushes. How about you? You're old enough that you had the same four chances to vote for a Bush. What's your score? I still tend to think that Gore would have been as bad or worse than Bush, just in different ways. But I can't say that Gore would have invaded Iraq, Dumbya's biggest mistake.
When you have to lie to make your point you've lost the debate. "But, as president, he'll suddenly swing into line with conservative policy on eminent domain seizures?" And do what? Single-handedly overturn the U.S. Supreme Court decision? Who do you think he is, Obama?
I'm not lying. If anything, I'm understating what Trump said and did on eminent domain. LarryElder.com, 2011: This is no recent GOPe attack on Trump. His history is well-documented. As with many other things, a lot of Trumpsters are projecting their own ideas onto Trump and don't seem to care (or want to ask) what his real record and positions are. A march of low-info Republicanish voters. So I'll thank you not to lie about me lying about Trump, hypocrite. Worship your false gods if you must but don't expect me to join you.
There you go spouting GOPe talking points. Do you work for Karl Rove? Or do you just think like him?
Whoever wrote that is a liar. Why do you post lies?
I voted for each Bush one time. So did you vote for W or HW?
You said Trump used the Kelo decision to evict some old lady in 1997. First of all, Kelo was decided in 2005. Second, Vera Coking was never evicted. She voluntarily moved to a retirement home in 2010 and sold her house last year for $530,000 -- 1/4 of what Trump offered 8 years earlier.
Are you kidding or just poorly informed? Club For Growth and the Tea Party are the enemies of the GOPe and have been for years. CFG and Tea candidates are slated for defeat in primaries by the CoC and GOP elite in the 2016 primaries. Now the GOPe is ready to primary the Tea candidates and the CoC is raising money specifically to do that. Sorry if that doesn't fit your imaginary template.
You're twice as big a Bush supporter as I am. You'd better ban yourself from LF, just to be safe. Dumbya in 2000, knowing I'd regret it. Gore just seemed so awful and I wanted the end of the Xlinton machine.
www.newsmax.com/Newsfront...for-Growth-elections-tea- party/2014/03/26/id/561799/ So Mitch Mconnel is not establishment and is a tea partier right? What are you snorting?
He certainly tried. ...Vera Coking was never evicted. She voluntarily moved to a retirement home in 2010 and sold her house last year for $530,000 -- 1/4 of what Trump offered 8 years earlier. Her later history is irrelevant. Trump was exactly the kind of developer who was trying, in various locales, to cause the Kelo decision or to bring about the same results with his lawyers under state laws. Why do you keep trying to deny or obfuscate the facts, which are quite well-known? You're not fooling anyone or distracting them.
Did you vote for Ron Pual in 88? Or Dukakis?
I said nothing of the sort. http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Club-for-Growth-elections-tea-party/2014/03/26/id/561799/ [corrected link] The article does nothing to change the facts. CFG and TP are still being targeted by GOPe.
My first vote of my life was for Bush. I was young and he followed Reagan. We didn't have the internet back then. And he surely seemed better then the dork Dukakis. Then I voted for W in 2000. I really wanted Buchanan. But I did vote for Bush, relucantly. I surely didn't want Gore to continue the Clinton policies.
You said the Club for Growth endoreses tea partiers and is anti establishment. Well that isn't true. They endorsed Mconnel and a host of other GOPe candidates that you love so much.
I'm not going to recite my entire voting history, even if I do have less to be embarrassed about than some people. Of course, resisting the reptilian Bushes (75%), the befuddled Dole, and the crazed warmonger McStain isn't really that much to brag over.
Club for Growth is knee jerk in favor of free trade. There is no daylight between them and the Chamber of Commerce RNC cuckolds when it comes to leaving American industry undefended against foreign mercantilism.
I'm just asking about 88. You must be ahamed of your vote.
At least I haven't voted for a Bush twice like a total GOPe tool. And I'm not answering mostly because you're so interested.
Kelo was not passed until 8 years later. What do you mean he tried to use Kelo? "Her later history is irrelevant." No it isn't. You said Trump used Kelo to evict some old lady. So her later history -- that she was NOT evicted but voluntarily moved -- IS relevant. "Trump was exactly the kind of developer who was trying, in various locales, to cause the Kelo decision or to bring about the same results with his lawyers under state laws." Had Kelo been in effect she would have received $251,000 from the city of Atlantic City. As it was, she turned down a $1.9 million offer for her house from Trump as well as a room for life at any of his properties. I'd call that generous, wouldn't you?
Of course. Always were. CoC and CFG square off in a lot of races in opposition to each other. To describe them as identical is just deluded. Haven't you about worn out using "cuckold" yet? Did you have a wife or GF or BF who cheated on you? Is that it?
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestThirty-eight percent (38%) think Biden would make a better president than Clinton. Twenty-nine percent (29%) say Clinton would be a better chief executive. One-in-three voters (33%) is undecided.
#72. To: TooConservative (#66)
#73. To: misterwhite (#42)
So if Trump goes away, you think that 23% will go to Bush? Sorry, but I see Trump and Bush supporters at opposite ends of the spectrum.
#74. To: tomder55 (#69)
Waiting for the emperor to pull the rug out from under Evita's legs .
#75. To: tomder55 (#68)
"Say hello the Evita Clintoon's reign ."
#76. To: nativist nationalist (#73)
"A lot of it will just go away. Trump has pulled in a lot of people who'd given up hope. Come November they'll stay home, unless he's running as an independent. They were never JEB's."
#77. To: misterwhite (#75)
Perhaps 16 million Republicans staying home will catch their eye. Does that need to happen?
#78. To: TooConservative (#77)
"Almost guaranteed if Trump is the GOP nominee."
#79. To: TooConservative (#66)
Giuliani was even more of a heavy favorite in 2007 than Trump is today. And without the extremely high negatives that Trump has. And Giuliani had Fox News in the tank for him, across the board.
#80. To: redleghunter (#70)
Thirty-eight percent (38%) think Biden would make a better president than Clinton.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#81. To: misterwhite (#78)
...and 16 million will stay home for Trump because he's more conservative than Romney?
#82. To: Vicomte13 (#79)
(And your tent feels so empty without me.)
#83. To: tomder55 (#68)
Say hello the Evita Clintoon's reign .
#84. To: TooConservative (#67)
It's all name identification at this point.
#85. To: TooConservative (#81)
1. I am a conservative.
2. I like Donald Trump.
3. Ergo, Donald Trump is a conservative.
2. I don't like Donald Trump.
3. Ergo, Donald Trump must not be a conservative.
#86. To: misterwhite (#85)
I believe your reasoning is:
#87. To: A K A Stone (#84)
Trumps support started at 3 percent and grew because of what he said.
#88. To: TooConservative (#86)
But I don't have a long and documented history of liberal political statements. Trump does.
#89. To: TooConservative (#86)
"But I don't have a long and documented history of liberal political statements. Trump does."
#90. To: misterwhite (#89)
(Edited)
Liberal political statements as a businessman. Interests and priorities are different when running for office.
#91. To: A K A Stone (#88)
(Edited)
Bush was liberal to moderate. Didn't you vote for him?
#92. To: TooConservative (#90)
"So he was all for the Kelo decision as a businessman and used it to evict some old lady because he coveted his neighbor's property."
#93. To: misterwhite, A K A Stone, sneakypete (#92)
When you have to lie to make your point you've lost the debate.
Washington, DC - The Club for Growth today noted that Donald Trump once tried to use eminent domain to evict an elderly widow from her Atlantic City home to build a limousine parking lot, and has repeatedly tried to use eminent domain as a tool of his development business:
#94. To: TooConservative (#93)
Washington, DC - The Club for Growth today
#95. To: TooConservative (#93)
Donald Trump is a liberal on taxes
#96. To: TooConservative (#91)
I only failed once to reject the Bushes. How about you? You're old enough that you had the same four chances to vote for a Bush. What's your score?
#97. To: TooConservative (#93)
"I'm not lying. If anything, I'm understating what Trump said and did on eminent domain."
#98. To: A K A Stone (#94)
There you go spouting GOPe talking points.
#99. To: A K A Stone (#96)
I voted for each Bush one time.
So did you vote for W or HW?
#100. To: TooConservative (#98)
Club For Growth and the Tea Party are the enemies of the GOPe and have been for years.
#101. To: misterwhite (#97)
You said Trump used the Kelo decision to evict some old lady in 1997.
#102. To: TooConservative (#99)
#103. To: A K A Stone (#100)
So Mitch Mconnel is not establishment and is a tea partier right?
#104. To: TooConservative (#99)
You're twice as big a Bush supporter as I am.
#105. To: TooConservative (#103)
So Mitch Mconnel is not establishment and is a tea partier right? I said nothing of the sort.
#106. To: A K A Stone (#102)
Did you vote for Ron Pual in 88? Or Dukakis?
#107. To: A K A Stone (#105)
You said the Club for Growth endoreses tea partiers and is anti establishment.
#108. To: TooConservative (#106)
I'm not going to recite my entire voting history,
#109. To: A K A Stone (#108)
I'm just asking about 88. You must be ahamed of your vote.
#110. To: TooConservative (#101)
"He certainly tried."
#111. To: nativist nationalist (#107)
Club for Growth is knee jerk in favor of free trade.
There is no daylight between them and the Chamber of Commerce RNC cuckolds when it comes to leaving American industry undefended against foreign mercantilism.
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