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Title: Navy to Charge Officer Who Fired on Islamist During Chattanooga Terror Attack
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TheGatewayPundit
URL Source: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201 ... terror-attack-will-be-charged/
Published: Aug 1, 2015
Author: Jim Hoft
Post Date: 2015-08-02 07:19:02 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 3523
Comments: 34
Navy Lt. Commander will reportedly be charged for shooting at the Chattanooga terrorist A report at The Navy Times in July confirmed that one of the Marines shot during the Chattanooga terrorist attack exchanged fire with the terrorist. Navy Lt. Cmdr Timothy White also shot back at the terrorist. But rather than being celebrated as a hero, Lt. Commander White may be charged for discharging a firearm on federal property. Ladies and gents, resulting from the text message I received yesterday, I can confirm that the United States Navy is bringing charges against Lt. Cmdr Timothy White for illegally discharging a firearm on federal property. The text message asked if it would be possible for Lt.Cmdr White to reach out to me. To wit I replied, affirmative. What kind of freaking idiots are in charge of our Armed Forces — pardon me, our “unArmed Forces”? What would they prefer that Abdulazeez had been able to kill all the Marines and Sailors at the Naval Support Reserve Center? Let me draw an interesting contrast: Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus is more concerned about lifting the ban on transgendered Sailors. Mabus has a problem in that for the first time since 2007 the US Navy will not have a Carrier Battle Group operating in the Persian Gulf. But this knucklehead has no problem with the Navy seeking to destroy the career of a Sailor, a commander of an installation, returning fire against an Islamic jihadist attack. I do not care if it was his personal weapon, he deserves a medal for facing the enemy. Folks, this has become the Obama military that will not implement policies for our men and women in uniform to be protected — but will punish them if they do protect themselves. What ever happened to the Navy of John Paul Jones, Farragut, Halsey, and Nimitz? What has happened in our America where we believe that our men and women in uniform — especially the commanders — are just targets for these damn Islamic jihadists?
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Lt Commander Timothy White and Islamist killer Muhammad Abdulazeez
Allen West reported this week: 
Lt Commander Timothy White is pictured with his family.
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" What kind of freaking idiots are in charge of our Armed Forces "
Damn good question!!
I had to go back and look to see if this was some kind of Bizzaro Article. This is the most insane thing I have ever heard. This guy should be treated as a hero, not treated as a criminal!!
I know that the military has become increasingly political, on overdrive!! But how can this be?
Someone,somewhere up the ladder made the decision to do this & gave orders for it. I wonder who it was. Was it Valerie Jarrett? I cannot believe that as those orders came down, someone did not object to such an order!!!
It is tar & feathers time!!
If the nation is invaded by an armed force, are the military just going to lay down their arms & surrender? Seems someone said that America was going to be fundamentally changed. I guess it is.
THIS IS INSANE!!!
I do not know about everyone else on this board, but this really makes my blood boil!!!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
#2. To: Stoner, redleghunter (#1)
I do not know about everyone else on this board, but this really makes my blood boil!!!
I was rather surprised that Fox News isn't in a full Breaking News snit over this story. Particularly in the slow summer news cycle.
Maybe they'll focus on it more this week. I was a little surprised no one else had noticed this story and posted it here at LF.
The officer has a nice looking family. Smart release of that family photo.
#3. To: TooConservative, redleghunter, all (#2)
TC, I thank you for posting this story. It is very important. Everyone needs to be aware of it!!
This story is just making me sick. Not as sick as the story about Planned Parenthood, but still sick!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
#4. To: TooConservative (#0)
Was he just shooting his weapon haphazardly?
Thats the only reason I can think that he would be charged in such a manner.
Did he illegally have a weapon and they want to make an example of him?
This is the feral government and the feral government is run by the lunatics.
#5. To: Justified (#4)
" This is the feral government and the feral government is run by the lunatics "
Yep. We should all thank Ovomit voters.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
#6. To: TooConservative (#2)
The problem is the Naval officer possessed a firearm without authorization on federal property. He is in deep doo-doo, too.
#7. To: Stoner (#5)
" This is the feral government and the feral government is run by the lunatics "Yep. We should all thank Ovomit voters.
Obama voters only enacting their racist votes to make America better!
Now we can move on from race issues! /s
You know I could understand Obama being elected by the uninformed crowded in the first election but there was ZERO excuse to vote for him in the second election when he removed all doubt about who he is!
#8. To: Justified (#4)
Did he illegally have a weapon and they want to make an example of him?
Illegal, yes. He was carrying unauthorized on a federal gun-free zone, a recruiting office.
Trying to charge this guy is likely to bring on a long-overdue debate on weapons policy at bases and civilian military offices. If we can't trust an officer to safely carry concealed, maybe he shouldn't be an officer to begin with.
#9. To: Justified (#7)
" I could understand Obama being elected by the uninformed crowded in the first election but there was ZERO excuse to vote for him in the second election when he removed all doubt about who he is! "
Well, the only defense they have is that the repukes put up dud candidates. However they could have voted for a 3rd party, instead of voting for Turd A, or Turd B.
Ovomit got his votes from blacks, whites with "white guilt", party loyalists, dumbasses, and those that thought he was not bush.
Our ballot box is seriously damaged!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
#10. To: buckeroo (#6)
It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
I'd have done the same thing, then took my lumps... but I wouldn't work any uniformed job unarmed. That's just retarded.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#11. To: Stoner (#1)
" What kind of freaking idiots are in charge of our Armed Forces "
Answer: Leftist politically correct idiots.
Any man who joins the military is signing his own death warrent.
#12. To: TooConservative, all (#0)
I would imagine Bull Halsey & George Patton are right now begging God allow them to come back to earth for at least a short while!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
#13. To: TooConservative (#0)
He should plead guilty and say he would do it again. ;)
#14. To: A Pole (#13)
He should plead guilty and say he would do it again. ;)
I'm thinking there will be a lot of knives being sharpened between various factions at the Pentagon.
At some point, you have to confront and respond to the fact that ISIS has clearly targeted American military. And where is the best place to find them concentrated and unarmed? A recruitment office in a mall. And it also makes potential recruits nervous to set foot in a recruiting center, knowing they are a real terrorist target.
#15. To: Stoner (#9)
Ovomit got his votes from blacks, whites with "white guilt", party loyalists, dumbasses, and those that thought he was not bush.
A lot of his votes were imported. American demographics have been transformed by the immigration invasion. When you import folks who vote for Hugo Chavez and Robert Mugabe into America, they'll find the equivalent thing to vote for here. The equivalent in America is the democrat party. Left wing globalist billionaires wanted the cheap labor, and the cuckolded republicans went along with it.
#16. To: nativist nationalist (#15)
" the cuckolded republicans went along with it."
Those idiots will do whatever their NWO masters tell them to do, anything for masta!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
#17. To: TooConservative, Redleghunter (#0)
According to the Navy Facebook page ,the case is still under investigation and they are far from making a decision.
www.al.com/news/index.ssf...s_reports_sailor_wil.html
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
#18. To: tomder55, redleghunter (#17) (Edited)
According to the Navy Facebook page ,the case is still under investigation and they are far from making a decision.
What? You mean Jim Hoft of GatewayPundit might be hyping a fake story?
I feel so betrayed!
I wondered when I saw this why Hoft was the only source of reporting on a story that would attract more attention. And Hoft does have a certain history of flacking fake stories. I only posted it because I thought Allen West wouldn't sign on to a totally fake story.
I probably should have put a disclaimer with the story, noting that Hoft is a wingnut with a track record.
OTOH, the Pentagon brass can't completely ignore a ranking officer breaking their weapons policy and the law blatantly. So I wouldn't be surprised if the JAGs do something like recommend a pro forma reprimand on his record.
I do recall that it seemed from the reporting that the staffers didn't return any fire against the attacker until they were in the "garage area" of this strip mall. So maybe the recruiters had handguns in their vehicles lawfully. I haven't read anything to indicate that they were armed while still inside the gun-free office area.
BTW, the Navy has issued kind of a denial.
Inquisitr:
Today, in a report from the Chattanoogan, a spokesman for the U.S. Navy has denied reports that disciplinary charges will be filed against Lt. Cmdr. Timothy White regarding his actions during the Chattanooga shooting, in a post on Facebook and other social media sites. “Stories of Navy personnel being charges with an offense are not true. There is still a long way to go in reviewing the facts of this tragic incident, but at this time we can confirm no service member has been charged with an offense.”As the Inquisitr has previously reported, Lt. Cmdr. Timothy White was carrying, and did discharge, his personal firearm during the Chattanooga shooting. At least two personal weapons belonging to military personnel were recovered by investigators at the Reserve Center. According to official Navy policy, carrying personal weapons on federal property is a UCMJ violation, as is discharging them on federal property, and by law, Navy JAG must review this case — they are not allowed to cherry-pick which cases they review. The public outrage is, in this case, completely unwarranted. Lt. Cmdr. White has explicitly indicated that he was in possession of a personal weapon and that he did return fire, actions that are subject to review, by law. The U.S. Navy has made clear that no charges have been brought against Navy personnel at this time, and that the investigation is ongoing. |
#19. To: TooConservative, GarySpFc, CZ82, liberator, tomder55 (#0)
What kind of freaking idiots are in charge of our Armed Forces — pardon me, our “unArmed Forces”? What would they prefer that Abdulazeez had been able to kill all the Marines and Sailors at the Naval Support Reserve Center? Let me draw an interesting contrast: Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus is more concerned about lifting the ban on transgendered Sailors. Mabus has a problem in that for the first time since 2007 the US Navy will not have a Carrier Battle Group operating in the Persian Gulf. But this knucklehead has no problem with the Navy seeking to destroy the career of a Sailor, a commander of an installation, returning fire against an Islamic jihadist attack. I do not care if it was his personal weapon, he deserves a medal for facing the enemy.
Well Gateway Pundit has it about right.
Priorities are FUBAR. Saw the same Obolo priorities in Iraq after his inauguration. Soldiers getting their legs blown off but he sends an envoy to discuss Iraqi government treatment of Iraqi homosexuals.
Frankly we have too many "Javerts" in the military. They look at the regulations without seeing the immediate situation. This is called a lack of judgment. Regulations without using the reason between one's ears leads to these stupid indictments of heroes.
But we see such in society all the time. Like the good Samaritan who provides life giving aid at an accident site is later sued by the rescued for not having CPR certifications. Madness all of it.
The good Lt. Commander needs to stand tall and have a jury of his peers exonerate him. Frankly the case should be tossed, but "Javert" must get his man, even for the theft of a life saving loaf of bread.
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.---John 1:17
#20. To: Stoner, TooConservative (#3)
Yes thanks for posting. Been on vacation and missed this.
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.---John 1:17
#21. To: TooConservative, CZ82 (#18)
OTOH, the Pentagon brass can't completely ignore a ranking officer breaking their weapons policy and the law blatantly. So I wouldn't be surprised if the JAGs do something like recommend a pro forma reprimand on his record.
That is what will most likely happen. Plus his career is over and his next assignment will be Goose Bay Canada. Really cold there in the winter.
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.---John 1:17
#22. To: redleghunter, all (#20)
I do not have the link right now, but a friend told me last night that this story is false. He said that the Navy has denied it.
As soon as I get the link, I will post it. We all may have gotten upset for nothing. I hope so.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
#23. To: Stoner (#22)
I do not have the link right now, but a friend told me last night that this story is false. He said that the Navy has denied it.
Yes, that is correct, although they said no charges have been filed against anyone, implying yet.
#24. To: Stoner (#22)
The Navy said in a statement that it had not charged any service members with an offense at the present time.“Stories of Navy personnel being charged with an offense are not true,” the statement said. “There is still a long way to go in reviewing the facts of this tragic incident, but at this time we can confirm no service member has been charged with an offense.”
Military personnel are not allowed to carry weapons inside military recruiting and reserve stations. That ban is now facing scrutiny following the July 16 rampage by an Islamic extremist that killed five military members in Tennessee.
www.foxnews.com/us/2015/0...who-fired-on-chattanooga/
#25. To: GrandIsland (#10)
#26. To: Stoner, Justified (#5)
This is the feral government and the feral government is run by the lunatics " Yep. We should all thank Ovomit voters.
And all those self-righteous, "I have principles" conservatives that stayed home in 2012.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
#27. To: SOSO (#26)
Don't ask us to vote for trash. What is that quote by Lincoln about not fooling all of the people all of that time?
#28. To: Don (#27)
Don't ask us to vote for trash.
Well then, you must be happy with what we got.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
#29. To: SOSO (#28)
We got what we got. If you think voting still works, you are dreaming.
#30. To: Stoner (#22)
I do not have the link right now, but a friend told me last night that this story is false. He said that the Navy has denied it.As soon as I get the link, I will post it. We all may have gotten upset for nothing. I hope so.
The Navy will investigate it I don't doubt.
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.---John 1:17
#31. To: Fred Mertz, Stoner, CZ82, liberator, tomder55 (#24) (Edited)
“Stories of Navy personnel being charged with an offense are not true,” the statement said. “There is still a long way to go in reviewing the facts of this tragic incident, but at this time we can confirm no service member has been charged with an offense.”
That's not saying they won't charge when the dust settles. Expect an article 32 investigation to determine if charges should be preferred. The UCMJ authority may decide to throw out any charges but I would not be surprised if this goes the distance.
I guess you have to desert your unit in a combat zone and join the Taliban to get the sympathy of the POTUS and his darling state run media. That or be an inmate at Gitmo.
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.---John 1:17
#32. To: redleghunter, Stoner (#30)
The Navy will investigate it I don't doubt.
They have to at least go through the motions of an investigation. If there is a charge, it is very unlikely to be "for discharging a firearm on federal property." When there is a bad guy shooting and killing five people, they will not charge someone for shooting back, even if he was not supposed to have the weapon. Most likely they will tell him not to do it again, or give him a letter of some sort.
In today's military, had he been wounded, he could have been awarded a purple heart and been reprimanded for shooting back.
#33. To: GrandIsland (#10)
but I wouldn't work any uniformed job unarmed. That's just retarded.
Uniforms of any kind seem to be magnets for the schittbirds, they see them as a sign of authority even though some of them really aren't...
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#34. To: redleghunter (#31)
My guess is this will eventually all be swept under the rug if they drag their feet long enough...
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
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