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Title: Reflecting populism born of frustration [Trump]
Source: Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
URL Source: http://triblive.com/opinion/salena/ ... americans-government-president
Published: Jul 18, 2015
Author: Salena Zito
Post Date: 2015-07-22 08:42:39 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 847
Comments: 26

There is a disturbance in American politics. But no one in the political class seems to be pinpointing the correct source.

Donald Trump gets all of the credit for it from journalists, pundits and academics. They could not be more wrong.

They are looking only at the surface, seeing the response to his harangues as an affirmation of the man. If they looked beyond the cartoonish image of Trump, they would understand that the true disturbance is the frustration of Americans, not the bluster of one man.

The same goes for the surge by Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont against Hillary Clinton on the Democrats' side. Clinton's other competitors — Virginia's Jim Webb, a former U.S. senator and Navy secretary, and former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley — are running deliberate campaigns, but they don't reflect the fire and unrest of voters on the center-left.

It is always remarkable to witness experts not understanding the field in which they are experts; even more remarkable, they still do not recognize the frustration of the masses, despite the unsettling wave elections of 2006, 2008, 2010 and 2014 that vividly affirmed populist movements against both political parties' establishments.

Americans are just tired of it all. Tired of no one speaking honestly to them, tired of being told they cannot speak honestly.

Think about this: For two administrations, Democrats, Republicans and independents effectively have been told to hold their tongues. During the Bush administration, you were unpatriotic if you criticized the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; during the Obama administration, you're a racist if you criticize the president or his policies.

And don't even think about expressing your values if those are outside the elite's standard of everyone deserving equality and fairness (unless, of course, you disagree with that elitist viewpoint, in which case hatred and character destruction are your reward).

This column has reported endlessly on the unnamed populist movement afoot in this country, one bridging both sides of the political aisle and uniting Americans against the establishment.

People look at government with an anger and a frustration which Washington does not understand.

In a span of a few days last week, Americans witnessed Washington's glaring failure with disbelief.

First, the government admitted that Social Security numbers, fingerprints, passwords and other personal information of more than 22 million federal workers, all used to conduct background screenings, were hacked on the Obama administration's watch.

Then a whistleblower leaked an internal Department of Veterans Affairs document to the Huffington Post, showing that more than 238,000 of the 847,000 military veterans with pending applications for health care through the VA had already died.

Finally, the FBI admitted that flaws in paperwork and communications between a federal background-check worker and state law enforcement allowed Dylann Roof to buy a handgun in South Carolina, weeks before he allegedly killed black churchgoers.

No accountability, no transparency — just a pattern of bureaucratic failure that has cost lives and has fueled anger against government.

This is the tip of the iceberg. If you are “out here” — outside Washington, outside of the coastal elites — you are overwhelmed by the incompetency; if you are “inside” those, you don't understand folks' skepticism about everything related to government, including cutting a deal with Iran.

When CBS News reporter Major Garrett pressed President Obama at a news conference last week, asking why American hostages in Iran weren't addressed in the nuclear arms “deal,” the president was insulted that someone would interrupt his victory lap. Garrett's peers, supposedly all balanced, hard-nosed journalists paid to ask tough questions, retreated predictably; they failed to practice good journalism by pressing the president on that point, perhaps because they are cloistered in their polarized world.

Donald Trump is going nowhere in this election cycle; neither is Bernie Sanders. But there is nothing wrong about the nomination races being a spectacle right now, because it demonstrates the volume of unrest among people looking for leadership.

Populism is lightning in a bottle. It is always bottom-up and always about people looking for a leader, not a circus barker leading a parade of tigers and jugglers on a small-town promenade.

Trump and Sanders are reflections of the unrest, not the leaders we are seeking.

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#1. To: TooConservative (#0)

When CBS News reporter Major Garrett pressed President Obama at a news conference last week, asking why American hostages in Iran weren't addressed in the nuclear arms “deal,” the president was insulted that someone would interrupt his victory lap.

I agree with what the author is saying but to call Americans who knowingly went to a hostile country as "hostages" is stretching it. I am sure they are in jail just because they are Americans but they should not have gone in the first place.

Same criticism for many of the American and western hostages taken in Lebanon after the first wave of hostage taking there.

Pericles  posted on  2015-07-22   8:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pericles (#1)

I agree with what the author is saying but to call Americans who knowingly went to a hostile country as "hostages" is stretching it. I am sure they are in jail just because they are Americans but they should not have gone in the first place.

They're being held by the regime. I wouldn't choose to quibble much over calling them hostages. Certainly they are being held under mostly trumped-up charges but no one negotiated or paid a (known) ransom for their release so the classic definition of 'hostage' doesn't apply that well.

But regardless of how hostagey the Iran deal was, the article was about rising populist discontent in both parties.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-22   8:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#2) (Edited)

I agree with what the author is saying but to call Americans who knowingly went to a hostile country as "hostages" is stretching it. I am sure they are in jail just because they are Americans but they should not have gone in the first place.

They're being held by the regime. I wouldn't choose to quibble much over calling them hostages. Certainly they are being held under mostly trumped-up charges but no one negotiated or paid a (known) ransom for their release so the classic definition of 'hostage' doesn't apply that well.

But regardless of how hostagey the Iran deal was, the article was about rising populist discontent in both parties.

Good article - if you recall I called Trump a joke but I got swept up in the thing and feel my Pat Buchanan pitchfork brigade feelings rise up on me with Trump taking to "the man".

Last in in his class McCain should be called a dummy - he is so stupid his war lust is scary. Like he does not think his policies through. Lindsey Graham is a fake candidate and Jeb Bush? Why bother?

Trump has his pulse on a segment of America that down deep is not ideological (they don't treat political ideology as an extension of their religion) and just want shit done at the least cost possible. They want jobs, they mostly hate free trade with China and Mexico and if they are white or black day laborer types, like roofers - they have seen their jobs go to illegals. I can't tell you when the last time is I saw a white or black employee being a roofer or a painter, etc. The owners or supervisors for sure but like a laborer? Not so much - same with gardeners.

Pericles  posted on  2015-07-22   9:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pericles (#3)

Good article - if you recall I called Trump a joke

I know two democrats who had the same thoughts. Now they are going to vote or Trump.

He has a lot better chance then John Ellis Bush does of beating Hillary. Since half the Republicans at least despise Bush.

Bush is a sure loser.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-22   9:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)

I don't think Trump will win but he has my protest vote.

Pericles  posted on  2015-07-22   9:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pericles (#3)

Good article - if you recall I called Trump a joke but I got swept up in the thing and feel my Pat Buchanan pitchfork brigade feelings rise up on me with Trump taking to "the man".

You might keep in mind that Trump might actually be Bush's stalking horse, that he is clearing the GOP field for Bush. Of course, we can't know that. It does seem very unlikely that even Trump believes he can win the GOP nomination. The party leaders and donor class hate him too much.

The alternatives are that he is working as a kingmaker in Bush's corner or he intends to run indy, either to win it for himself or to be a Perot to a Bush to help a Xlinton. Or maybe he is just waiting to cut his best deal with a Bush or a Xlinton. Or their tycoon backers.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-22   9:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#6)

One day Trump is working for Bush according to you. Then the next day he is working for Hillary. Then the next day you have Diaharia and you think it is butterflies.

You have a new conspiracy theory about every day.

Here is the truth.

Trump is in it to win it. If you can't see that you have no political insight. And yes Trump can win. He has the best chance of anyone.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-22   10:02:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pericles (#1)

" to call Americans who knowingly went to a hostile country as "hostages" is stretching it. I am sure they are in jail just because they are Americans but they should not have gone in the first place. "

Exactly! Anyone, in this day, that loads up and flits around the world, is not only polyanna, but is absolutely STUPID. And they should not expect the US to come get them out. When they board a plane, or boat to leave the US, they should have their passport stamped with: " YOUR ON YOUR OWN DUMBASS "

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-22   10:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#7)

" And yes Trump can win. He has the best chance of anyone. "

Stone, I think you are right. I hope so. Only time will tell, and prove.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-22   10:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#7) (Edited)

Trump is in it to win it. If you can't see that you have no political insight. And yes Trump can win. He has the best chance of anyone.

He has the least chance of any declared candidate.

One day Trump is working for Bush according to you. Then the next day he is working for Hillary.
You fail to recognize that he may simply be putting himself in a position to cut the best deal for himself and/or play kingmaker in the 2016 election.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-22   10:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone, Pericles, All (#10)

One day Trump is working for Bush according to you. Then the next day he is working for Hillary.

You fail to recognize that he may simply be putting himself in a position to cut the best deal for himself and/or play kingmaker in the 2016 election.

Naw, not Dollar DOnald. He is a man of immense integrity, almost as much as the Clintons.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   10:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: SOSO (#11)

Naw, not Dollar DOnald. He is a man of immense integrity, almost as much as the Clintons.

Again, I feel shamed for being so cynical. Thank God you're here to set me straight when I go astray.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-22   11:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: SOSO (#11)

Naw, not Dollar DOnald. He is a man of immense integrity, almost as much as the Clintons.

10 billion dollar DOnale is a man of getting things done. You will come around.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-22   14:36:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#10)

He has the least chance of any declared candidate.

He has the least chance of being voted for by you. You would pick Lindsey Graham before Trump. Hillary too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-22   14:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TooConservative (#10)

You fail to recognize that he may simply be putting himself in a position to cut the best deal for himself and/or play kingmaker in the 2016 election.

It is not a failure to not entertain any of your goofy conspiracy theories. I mean you're someone who thinks telling the truth is a political error.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-22   14:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#13)

Naw, not Dollar DOnald. He is a man of immense integrity, almost as much as the Clintons.

10 billion dollar DOnale is a man of getting things done. You will come around.

I was born and raised in NYC. I spent over 10 years in the banking system there. I am well familiar with Dollar Donald. All I can say is that I will never come around to him and that you are a dupe. But don't feel too badly, Dollar has been taking advantage of dupes like your for most of his life. He is very well practiced at it. My sense is that you are relatively new to dupetom or at least not as practiced at it as Dollar Donald.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   15:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TooConservative (#12)

Thank God you're here to set me straight when I go astray.

Did you just come out of the closet?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   15:18:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#14)

He has the least chance of being voted for by you. You would pick Lindsey Graham before Trump. Hillary too.

No, I wouldn't.

I would vote for Trump over several other GOP candidates in the field, mostly because I abhor the Xlintons.

BTW, are there any actual primary voters in any of the early contests? I don't know of any.

Is there a single poster on this small forum that is a registered voter in IA/NH/NV/SC? Even one?

I doubt there is a single vote up for grabs here at LF. And I don't know of any Floriduh voters here either. It'll be 7-8 months before any of the regular posters here at LF get a chance to cast a vote. Which seems to make the LF Jihad For Trump a little premature, IMO.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-22   19:40:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative (#0)

Donald Trump is going nowhere in this election cycle; neither is Bernie Sanders.

Good article, but the author is dead wrong in his final statement. Trump is very popular because he does speak for us. He is the Oligarchy's worst nightmare. I like that in a candidate. Call me a populist, but I want this nation back. I want jobs back. I want illegals gone. I want an end to PC BS and unbalanced trade deals. I want our vets to get the treatment they deserve. I want an end to identity politics. #alllivesmatter I want to see Trump slash whole departments. I want to see defunding of PP and other diabolical groups. I want to see a balanced budget, not the one-sided welfare boondoggle and the endless spending of crooks. I want our nation to thrive.

I want a no nonsense leader who tells it like it is. Yes, he is brash. But he isn't wrong.

In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

out damned spot  posted on  2015-07-22   19:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: out damned spot (#19)

Good article, but the author is dead wrong in his final statement.

Well, her final statement. The writer is Salena Zito. She has written for that paper for 15 years or so, used to post under her own name along with some of her articles over at TOS in the early Bush years. I thought you might recall her. I always liked her political writing.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-22   19:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone (#18)

Is there a single poster on this small forum that is a registered voter in IA/NH/NV/SC? Even one?

Drive down to you local Home Depot. I am sure you can find one there.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   19:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: SOSO (#21)

Is there a single poster on this small forum that is a registered voter in IA/NH/NV/SC? Even one?

Same question for you. You've been here and over at LP for years. Do we have any early state voters left? We used to have one from New Hampshire but I don't recall offhand who it was. I think it was someone who left LP (or got banned) and never over to LF. That was the only early voter at LP in 2012 until the race got to Florida where Goldi was the only voter.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-22   20:21:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: TooConservative (#22)

Same question for you. You've been here and over at LP for years. Do we have any early state voters left?

Hinestly, TC, I never paid attention to that and can't help out here. Start a thread: Calling All Early State Voters.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-22   21:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: SOSO, A K A Stone (#16)

I was born and raised in NYC. I spent over 10 years in the banking system there.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. NYC bankers are in no position to be preaching about integrity. Jon Corzine ethics are rewarded under guys like McCain and Bush, a populist uprising is the very last thing this crowd wants.

You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out and, by the Eternal, I will rout you out!” - Andrew Jackson.

The last thing Corzine kleptocrat crowd wants is another populist like Andrew Jackson, that's like garlic to a vampire.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-07-23   9:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: nativist nationalist, A K A Stone (#24)

NYC bankers are in no position to be preaching about integrity.

ARe you saying that I have no integrity?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-23   14:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: TooConservative (#6)

Trump supposedly said the other day that the only way he would run was as a republican, not as 3rd party.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-23   15:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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