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Title: Trump gives out Lindsey Graham’s cell phone number on live TV
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HotAir
URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/ ... -cell-phone-number-on-live-tv/
Published: Jul 21, 2015
Author: Allahpundit
Post Date: 2015-07-21 16:24:22 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 1413
Comments: 17
Like I say, this was a cell phone number, not Graham’s Senate office number, which of course is public. Must be a new tactic he’s trying out. If he was intent on doxxing every famous person who’s called him a jackass, as Graham did last night on CNN, he would have started selling maps to Jon Stewart’s house years ago. Trump then read out what he said was Graham’s phone number, telling his supporters to “try it.” This made me laugh: Reporters watching Trump like pic.twitter.com/kmFwPAh1Kv — Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) July 21, 2015 Good point from Ace: The value of having Trump in the race, supposedly, is that he’s forcing the RINOs to address subjects they don’t want to address, like crimes committed by illegal immigrants . But he’s not doing that lately. There are endless opportunities for it — he could start talking about the Planned Parenthood nightmare or the threat to religious liberty from antidiscrimination laws — but he’d rather take potshots at McCain and Graham. I quoted this Peter Spiliakos post in an earlier thread about Trump but his key point bears repeating. “Trump’s rhetoric is about wounding people that his fans despise,” he said, not about forcing otherwise underserved issues onto the GOP’s 2016 policy plate. That’s the common thread between his comments about Mexican rapists, McCain, and now Graham. On that note, I’ll try to predict the five camps of reaction to giving out Graham’s number: 1. The RINO had it coming/any weapon to hand, a.k.a. the Spiliakos theory: 80 percent We’ll see how I do. Exit quotation from today’s rally: “If you can’t get rich dealing with politicians, there’s something wrong with you.” “He doesn’t seem like a very bright guy. He actually probably seems to me not as bright as Rick Perry. I think Rick Perry probably is smarter than Lindsey Graham,” Trump added, riffing on prior insults he had lobbed at the former Texas governor.
Then Trump transitioned to an embarrassing anecdote, which the billionaire real estate developer said was from a few years ago, in which Graham called Trump “begging” him for a good reference with Trump’s pals on the Fox News morning program “Fox & Friends.”
Trump said that he promised Graham he would put out a good word, and the South Carolina Republican then gave him his phone number to follow up.
2. Not cool, but Obama’s done so much that’s so much worse: 10 percent
3. Not cool, but Graham started it by criticizing him: Five percent
4. Not cool, but also pretty funny and not a big deal given that it’s just a cell number and Graham can get a new one: Four percent
5. Not cool because, after all, we’d all be wetting our pants if Jeb Bush pulled this on Trump: One percent
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#1. To: TooConservative (#0)
Hit Trump, he hits back. I like that.
I like that. I said it before the vast majority of people - even self identified conservatives and liberals - really don't know much about the issues except in generality and even then many are not sure if they know enough to be sure. But they do gravitate towards a fighter and will back a fighter even if he/she is not of their ideological affiliation.
I said it before - they attacked Trump with the racist and hater label and that is sort of a kiss of doom financially for him - so if this run was a fluke designed to up his ratings it backfired on Trump - if he is serious - Trump has to go for broke and take no prisoners. Win at all costs - the racist charge is burning your bridges - there is no turning back.
That's right: people are pushed around by those in authority, and we hate it. When somebody has the strength and position to push back, and DOES push back, and hit back, in ways that are satisfying: we like that. I do. Trump didn't just give out a cell number. He revealed a private call that Graham made to him asking him for a favor. In Trump's story, Graham sounds like a sniveling, whiny, pathetic beggar, begging a more powerful man for a favor. That's how Trump got his cell phone number. When Graham wanted a favor, he stuck his nose up Trump's ass. But now that Graham thinks that there's an advantage among Republican cognoscenti to pick on Trump, he does it. By firing back with the content of personal conversations - efforts to curry favor by politicians - Trump is sending the signal loud and clear that he will not treat any conversation with any politician who ever sought a favor from him as confidential or privileged. Trump is running for President, and he's doing it against the will of the Republican party. So many Republican politicians have begged for favors from the rich man - the GOP is a crony capitalist party, and Trump is a crony capitalist. The rich cronies have not gone onto the GOP ticket before seeking power. This one is, and it's alarming. After all, if the public will actually ELECT the crony capitalists directly, what need is there for any of these high-school- class-president politicians who specialized in politics, not making money? Graham is a weak, effeminate little man, a pit Yorkie barking at a New York mogul. Graham was a joke waiting to be told, but out of "respect" nobody told it. But Graham shot off his mouth to ridicule Trump. And Trump shot back. And truth is, Trump is a more believable character, and has greater gravitas even, than Graham. Graham was never going to be President anyway. Neither will Pataki. Or Perry. Or any of these other also rans. The only Republicans who have any shot of being President are Jeb, Walker and Trump. The ankle-biters are there to dilute the realm so that Jeb emerges. That's the strategy. It's all choreographed. But Trump is messing up the dance. The effect of having Trump in the game is that it's going to quickly wipe out the also-rans. He'll be the most interesting and entertaining. And he won't be RESPECTFUL when they treat him with disrespect. He will go after them and ridicule them. I like that.
When an elected official calls on his private line asking for a public favor then there is no inherit right to privacy over that conversation or of the telephone number used - that number is not a private number any longer. PS: If graham changes the number he is a wussy who can't fight back. If he was smart he would answer every call but he is not smart he is a political hack who is working for neocon filth who want the USA to re-wage war in the Middle East.
The latest poll by ABC/Wash Post (7/16 - 7/19) has Trump at 24%, one off the combined total of Walker (13%) & Bush (12%). Trump is the only one the people are listening to or hearing about because the other ninnies aren’t saying anything. McCain was just being a Jeb/party tool in starting an attack on Trump. Trump returned fire. If Trump shows any weakness in firing back, he will invite the whole bunch of party goons to attack him. He cannot afford to spend all his time defending flack attacks. After McCain and Graham, who wants to be next tool for Jeb? As for the faux horror of it all, the Dems said the same thing about McCain when he ran for president. in 2008. Perhaps folks can recall how low the GOP/Bush campaign sunk in the South Carolina primary in 2000: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whispering_campaign In addition, on the week of the nomination vote, dozens of radio stations were called on the same day asking talk show hosts what they thought of McCain's fathering of a black child out of wedlock. McCain later said of the incidents: "There were some pretty vile and hurtful things said during the South Carolina primary. It's a really nasty side of politics. We tried to ignore it and I think we shielded [our daughter] from it. It's just unfortunate that that sort of thing still exists. As you know she's Bengali, and very dark skinned. A lot of phone calls were made by people who said we should be very ashamed about her, about the color of her skin. Thousands and thousands of calls from people to voters saying, 'You know, the McCains have a black baby.' I believe that there is a special place in hell for people like those."
That has the ring of truth to it. Trump might be as bright as Joe Biden? That is lady graham. But anyone paying attention for the last decade would already know this. LOL My 2 least favorite people in the senate! McCrazy and Lady Graham. When Specter and Snow left I was happy but these guys double down on being a traitor.
I like that. Declasse on both your parts. But if you condone this sort of behavior I wish that someone will give out Trump's private number or perhaps his kids that run some of his business interests. After all isn't everything fair game if your world? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
The politicians won't give out Trump's number, because he is a wealthy crony capitalist. They are the servant class who serve crony capitalists. Trump is a crony capitalist who has decided HE wants power, like Bloomberg. The problem politicians have is that they don't have money. The only power they have is positional, and they are completely replaceable. But rich people are a permanent class, and they know each other. If politicians alienate Trump too much, they will alienate many other rich donors who are Trump's buddies and peers. There is no margin for a politician to do that. Graham is in a safe seat in an insignificant state, that he has locked up, so he can afford it. Perry is sort of a dunce, doing the party's bidding to be a good soldier. But what major politician on the Republican side wants to directly challenge the rich. If THEY start giving out his number, that will alarm every other crony capitalist who does them a favor. They only dare if Trump is alone and isolated. As it is, they're wrestling with a man who is much more powerful than they are, because he is rich and well connected, and can pay his own way. They can't. People curry favor with Trump because he can independently help them with his wealth and connections. Politicians only have power because of their office. They are much weaker and less significant fish. When Bloomberg, the billionaire, ran as a Republican in New York, a Democrat city, his Democrat opponent never really had a chance. In American politics, money talks. Perot demonstrated that, but then he cracked under the personal pressure, in part because he had some sort of sense of "déclassé", this shame you'd like to see Trump show. I am not interested in shame - that plays the game of the politicians. I am interested in victory, and that will mean greasing a lot of tank treads with politicians' guts.
I don't particularly condone it. I had to laugh tho. These RINOs are going to learn that when you come out and attack Trump, he'll hit you back twice as hard. That I do like. I'm sick to death of the cabal in DC. Most people are.
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
So who did you vote for in 2012? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
"Fans?" They need to cast a larger net on that comment:) It just could be that Trump finds most people deplorable. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.---John 1:17
LOL I would love to hear some of the voice messages before Lady Lindsey had the phone shut down:)
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.---John 1:17
In 2012 I voted for Romney. With disgust.
Since you seem interested, In 1980 I was too young to vote. In 1984 I voted for Reagan, unhappily. Reaganomics was foolish. But he was strong on defeating the USSR while the Democrats were namby-pamby milquetoasts. In 1988 I voted for Poppy Bush. I was happier about that, because I thought I was getting eight more years of Reagan, Bush was a strong Cold Warrior. I believed his lying lips when he promised "No new taxes." In 1992, I voted for Perot. There was no universe in which I would vote for Poppy Bush again. Clinton? Meh. Perot was my man. The country would be much better off had it broken its addiction with the two-party cabal and elected him. In 1996, I voted for Dole. He was a war hero and I was tired of Clinton's nonsense. In 2000 I voted for W, and I was glad he won. I voted to re-elect him in 2004. W was the only victorious candidate for whom I voted that I felt really good about. He - and the Republican Party - lost my allegiance when they, in a very short period, let Terri Schiavo be slowly murdered and tried to put Harriet Myers on the Supreme Court. Listening to them, and watching how they acted, I realized that the Republicans had no intention of actually using their power to defend life. And right along with all of that the open borders became visible. After decades, the Republicans had all the power, all of the branches of government, most of the state houses and legislatures...and they did nothing with that power to address illegal immigration or pro-life matters. They simply went for more crony capitalist Reaganomics redux. At least Reagan WON his Cold War. Bush and the GOP managed to wreck our military and our budget to fight a Vietnam in the sands. In 2008 I voted for Sarah Palin. McCain alone would not get my vote - and I had gone out and worked on his campaign in 2000 - the Republicans, and McCain in particular, lost my allegiance between 2000 and 2008, because my mindset is Catholic, not Protestant: I don't care what they SAY or they BELIEVE, or say they believe: I care what they DO. Republicans had power, and they didn't DO what they had always said they were about. I was a supporter all those years because I wanted those things they promised. But when they got power, they stiffed me, showed me I was just a rube, a bubba-boob. They were about crony capitalism uber alles. They just used me for a vote, and for phone calls and pollwatching and all of that other volunteer stuff. In 2012, I gritted my teeth and voted for Romney, but I said "Never again". Romney didn't even pretend to care about what I care about. He focused on his crony capitalism, and lost, and I was glad. In 2016, I like Trump. The rest of the field are either babykillers or Republicans, and they can all go die in a hole.
#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
Hit Trump, he hits back.
#3. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone (#0)
#4. To: Pericles (#2)
#5. To: TooConservative (#0)
Trump gives out Lindsey Graham’s cell phone number on live TV
What a hoot!
#6. To: Vicomte13 (#4)
(Edited)
Trump didn't just give out a cell number. He revealed a private call that Graham made to him asking him for a favor.
#7. To: Vicomte13, Pericles (#4)
When somebody has the strength and position to push back, and DOES push back, and hit back, in ways that are satisfying: we like that. I do.
During the 2000 Republican presidential primary, Senator John McCain was the target of a whisper campaign implying that he had fathered a black child out of wedlock. (McCain's adopted daughter is a dark-skinned child from Bangladesh). Voters in South Carolina were reportedly asked, "Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain if you knew that he fathered an illegitimate black child?". McCain would later lose the South Carolina primary, and the nomination, to George W. Bush.
#8. To: TooConservative (#0)
[Graham] not as bright as Rick Perry
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#9. To: Vicomte13 (#4)
Graham sounds like a sniveling, whiny, pathetic beggar, begging a more powerful man for a favor.
#10. To: Vicomte13, TooConservative (#1)
Hit Trump, he hits back.
#11. To: SOSO (#10)
#12. To: SOSO (#10)
#13. To: Vicomte13 (#11)
I am interested in victory,
#14. To: TooConservative (#0)
“Trump’s rhetoric is about wounding people that his fans despise,”
#15. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
#16. To: SOSO (#13)
#17. To: SOSO (#13)
(Edited)
So who did you vote for in 2012?
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