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politics and politicians Title: Trump to Iowa evangelicals: I’m not sure I’ve ever asked God for forgiveness Take it from an atheist: Even an atheist could have faked a better answer than this. How is it that this guy, with all his billions, didn’t think to hire anyone to teach him to lie convincingly about faith when addressing an audience of Christian conservatives, the key to winning the Iowa caucuses? He should have called the White House. They could have hooked him up with whoever coached Obama on his fake opposition to gay marriage in 2008. Byron York and the NYT are right that this answer will end up damaging Trump more than his shot at McCain’s war service will. Watch the clip. The bit about him drinking his “little wine” and having his “little cracker” at church is … not Huckabean, shall we say, although I think it’s the second half of the vid that’s more revealing. (The very end includes his bit about McCain, which the video’s editor tacked on for whatever reason.) Luntz tosses him the softest of softballs — “what is your relationship with God?” — and Trump can’t help answering in terms of his personal success, presumably because that’s his yardstick for everything in life. God’s blessed him with an intellect capable of generating some of the great deals in business history; that’s evidence that their relationship’s pretty good, no? Luntz’s question very obviously cries out for the opposite answer, that riches and personal success mean nothing without grace and deep communion with the Almighty. He does note that he prays, but like I say, watch the clip. The mystery here is whether Trump simply misjudged his audience (in Iowa, at a forum devoted to family?) or he’s convinced himself that being his honest, unfiltered self is the key to ultimate victory. This will test that theory better than the McCain thing will. A rival campaign strategist told York he doesn’t expect Trump to lose support for this so much as he thinks it’ll lower his ceiling in the state. If you’re an evangelical tea partier trying to decide between Trump and, say, Scott Walker or Ted Cruz, this’ll tip the scale towards the latter. Poster Comment: Elsewhere, Ace observes: "He eventually grabs at an answer -- that "drinking the little wine" and "eating the little cracker" constitute, maybe, an asking of forgiveness from God. He doesn't sound very sure of that (I don't know either way myself), but has already, by then repeatedly said he doesn't even think to ask God for forgiveness. So if the "drinking of the little" wine is such a request, it is only inadvertent, accidental, and symbolic." Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 10. Trump to Iowa evangelicals: I’m not sure I’ve ever asked God for forgiveness I don't. The question is, can I forgive myself for my imperfection and mistakes.
#3. To: rlk, redleghunter (#1) I don't. The question is, can I forgive myself for my imperfection and mistakes. Regardless of the merits of forgiving yourself, the most central tenet of Christianity is forgiveness from God for sins. Trump seems totally unaware of the concept. If you don't need forgiveness, you don't need Christ.
#10. To: TooConservative, rlk, redleghunter (#3) Regardless of the merits of forgiving yourself, the most central tenet of Christianity is forgiveness from God for sins. Trump may be aware of the tents of Christianity, but is indifferent. NOT as bright as his thinks he is on that front. That may change, but for the moment Trump is a man who may respect believers but obviously is no man of God. BUT, loves America, and at the moment appears to be fighting to preserve the Republic.
Replies to Comment # 10. #22. To: Liberator (#10) (Edited) Trump may be aware of the tents of Christianity, but is indifferent. NOT as bright as his thinks he is on that front. I doubt he has any respect for believers. He'll pander to them just like any other politician. The unbridled arrogance of this carnival barker is breathtaking. He is right about the border/illegal alien issue, but not much else. His god is money.
#23. To: Liberator (#10) (Edited) Trump may be aware of the tents of Christianity, but is indifferent. NOT as bright as his thinks he is on that front. About the kindest way you could describe it. But it shows a Trump weakness. In retail politics, you only get so many auditions before the public rains on your parade. This little episode with Trump shows he will just wade into a sensitive topic and trample it before he thinks through what he says. As with his McStain POW remarks. These are Trump's unforced errors. They accumulate. At a certain number of these flubs, the public votes you off the island.
#47. To: Liberator, TooConservative, GarySpFc (#10) Trump may be aware of the tents of Christianity, but is indifferent. NOT as bright as his thinks he is on that front. Who knows the Workings of God? Perhaps with Trump on the campaign trail he will actually meet, sit and talk with some Christians and not the variant from his country club. One never knows...
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