[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

"The 2nd Impeachment: Trump’s Popularity Still Scares Them to Death"

"President Badass"

"Jasmine Crockett's Train Wreck Interview Was a Disaster"

"How Israel Used Spies, Smuggled Drones and AI to Stun and Hobble Iran"

There hasn’T been ... a single updaTe To This siTe --- since I joined.

"This Is Not What Authoritarianism Looks Like"

America Erupts… ICE Raids Takeover The Streets

AC/DC- Riff Raff + Go Down [VH1 Uncut, July 5, 1996]

Why is Peter Schiff calling Bitcoin a ‘giant cult’ and how does this impact market sentiment?

Esso Your Butt Buddy Horseshit jacks off to that shit

"The Addled Activist Mind"

"Don’t Stop with Harvard"

"Does the Biden Cover-Up Have Two Layers?"

"Pete Rose, 'Shoeless' Joe Reinstated by MLB, Eligible for HOF"

"'Major Breakthrough': Here Are the Details on the China Trade Deal"

Freepers Still Love war

Parody ... Jump / Trump --- van Halen jump

"The Democrat Meltdown Continues"

"Yes, We Need Deportations Without Due Process"

"Trump's Tariff Play Smart, Strategic, Working"

"Leftists Make Desperate Attempt to Discredit Photo of Abrego Garcia's MS-13 Tattoos. Here Are Receipts"

"Trump Administration Freezes $2 Billion After Harvard Refuses to Meet Demands"on After Harvard Refuses to Meet Demands

"Doctors Committing Insurance Fraud to Conceal Trans Procedures, Texas Children’s Whistleblower Testifies"

"Left Using '8647' Symbol for Violence Against Trump, Musk"

KawasakiÂ’s new rideable robohorse is straight out of a sci-fi novel

"Trade should work for America, not rule it"

"The Stakes Couldn’t Be Higher in Wisconsin’s Supreme Court Race – What’s at Risk for the GOP"

"How Trump caught big-government fans in their own trap"

‘Are You Prepared for Violence?’

Greek Orthodox Archbishop gives President Trump a Cross, tells him "Make America Invincible"

"Trump signs executive order eliminating the Department of Education!!!"

"If AOC Is the Democratic Future, the Party Is Even Worse Off Than We Think"

"Ending EPA Overreach"

Closest Look Ever at How Pyramids Were Built

Moment the SpaceX crew Meets Stranded ISS Crew

The Exodus Pharaoh EXPLAINED!

Did the Israelites Really Cross the Red Sea? Stunning Evidence of the Location of Red Sea Crossing!

Are we experiencing a Triumph of Orthodoxy?

Judge Napolitano with Konstantin Malofeev (Moscow, Russia)

"Trump Administration Cancels Most USAID Programs, Folds Others into State Department"

Introducing Manus: The General AI Agent

"Chinese Spies in Our Military? Straight to Jail"

Any suggestion that the USA and NATO are "Helping" or have ever helped Ukraine needs to be shot down instantly

"Real problem with the Palestinians: Nobody wants them"

ACDC & The Rolling Stones - Rock Me Baby

Magnus Carlsen gives a London System lesson!

"The Democrats Are Suffering Through a Drought of Generational Talent"

7 Tactics Of The Enemy To Weaken Your Faith

Strange And Biblical Events Are Happening

Every year ... BusiesT casino gambling day -- in Las Vegas


Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

International News
See other International News Articles

Title: Failure Theater: Republicans, Having Already Approved Obama's Iran Sell-Out, Now Hope to Capitalize Electorally at Next Year's Elections
Source: Ace Of Spades
URL Source: http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=357890
Published: Jul 15, 2015
Author: —Ace
Post Date: 2015-07-15 22:55:03 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 2936
Comments: 57

Via Hot Air, noting Obama is due to welcome Iran into the nuclear club at a presser scheduled for 1pm, also notes they are, as usual, plotting to "win the issue" at the ballot box after deliberately losing the issue in the Congressional roll call:

Republicans believe they will win the public relations battle on the deal, which largely unites the GOP and threatens to divide the Democratic Party.

Some Senate Republicans are thinking about moving a motion of approval of the deal, believing it would put Democrats in a tough spot ahead of next year’s elections. Such a move in the upper chamber could lead to less than half of the Senate backing the president, allowing for more favorable headlines for the GOP. The House, however, is more likely to pass a resolution of disapproval.

A third option is to move legislation sponsored by Menendez and Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) placing new sanctions on Iran, which the Banking Committee passed earlier this year and has Democratic support.

"All options are on the table," said a Republican member of the Senate Foreign Relations panel who requested anonymity. "I wouldn’t take anything off."

Republicans will likely use the Iran votes as ammunition on the campaign trail in 2016.

Oh I see -- after voting in favor of letting Obama do this, and making it US law, you're now going to run on a campaign of "isn't it horrible what Obama and the Democrats have done here."

Go fuck yourselves to hell.

You will pass from the earth, and no one will mourn your passing. . . .

Click for Full Text!

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 25.

#10. To: TooConservative (#0)

"Go fuck yourselves to hell."

What would you have the Republicans do -- write Obama a stern letter?

They need to stay as far away from this deal as possible. Campaign against it and vow to repeal it.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-16   18:15:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: misterwhite (#10)

They need to stay as far away from this deal as possible. Campaign against it and vow to repeal it.

Their rank hypocrisy, having already given their blessing, rally galls as they sit around writing speeches about how much they opposed it after giving Obama the real green light in their abortive legislative gambit.

The GOP Senate and the House seem to accomplish little.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-16   19:29:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#12)

"having already given their blessing"

Oh, come on. What were they to do? This was an Executive branch deal all the way. Nothing Congress could do about it.

Giving Obama the green light? Did they have a red light that worked? Had they stuck their nose in, Obama and the press would have painted them as obstructionists. Again.

Even worse, had Obama made some minor concessions to the Republicans, now the treaty is equal responsibility. Anything bad that happens would be due to the part of the treaty that the Republicans wanted. Bet the bank on that.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-16   19:53:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: misterwhite (#13) (Edited)

Obama and the press would have painted them as obstructionists. Again.

OK, got it! Excellent strategy! We sure don't want to do anything that might make opponents not like us.

So we'll just wait for the Emperor and his court jesters to "give repubs the green light."

And when - may I ask - might we expect that to happen?

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-07-16   20:47:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rufus T Firefly (#15)

"We sure don't want to do anything that might make opponents not like us."

Sure we do. If it accomplishes something.

But if all we're doing is spinning our wheels, why take the bad press? That's not smart.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-17   9:28:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: misterwhite (#16)

"We sure don't want to do anything that might make opponents not like us."

Sure we do. If it accomplishes something.

But if all we're doing is spinning our wheels, why take the bad press? That's not smart.

For the sake of argument, let's assume the republicans are an opposition party (it's a stretch, I know)

If they ARE an opposition party, it follows that their opponents are the democrats. So far, so good.

But in the real world, their opponents are also the mainstream media - and just about every other facet of modern day intelligentsia (academia, Hollywood, etc)

So what is it that republicans want to accomplish? Is it to oppose?

Or is it to be liked by the opposition?

Because if your answer is both - it ain't ever going to happen.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-07-17   18:51:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Rufus T Firefly (#17) (Edited)

"So what is it that republicans want to accomplish?"

They WANT to accomplish many things. Your question should be, "So what is it that Republicans CAN accomplish?

The answer to that is, very little with a Democrat President who will veto anything and everything the Republicans present to him.

Oh, the Republicans can grandstand, give speeches, grant interviews, go on all the talk shows, pass important-sounding bills, even threaten to shut down the government. And for what?

They'll be painted as obstructionists, kooks, racists, out of touch, blah blah blah, and nothing will happen.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-17   19:06:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: misterwhite (#18)

"So what is it that republicans want to accomplish?"

They WANT to accomplish many things. Your question should be, "So what is it that Republicans CAN accomplish?

The answer to that is, very little with a Democrat President who will veto anything and everything the Republicans present to him.

Oh, the Republicans can grandstand, give speeches, grant interviews, go on all the talk shows, pass important-sounding bills, even threaten to shut down the government. And for what?

They'll be painted as obstructionists, kooks, racists, out of touch, blah blah blah, and nothing will happen.

I don't know how old you are - me? I've been voting since '72. My politics are right of center.

So I've heard this song and dance from our gop friends forever. Nixon was kicked out of office by a press that hated him (which is ironic, because Nixon was NOT a conservative. He who gave us the EPA and wage and price controls, for starters.)

Reagan WAS a conservative - and for some reason was able to overcome a very hostile Tip O'Neill in the House and a very hostile press. I wonder how he did that - could it be he had principals, was able to PERSUADE and CONVINCE (and not just wait for a friendly press which would never be forthcoming)

Then of course we had Bush I, who followed not the Reagan model but instead the tried and (un)true gop model - to wit, campaign as a conservative but govern like a liberal (or at least "democrat lite)

Bush I of course led to Xlinton. And Bush taught his son (Bush II) well, as "Dubyah" was the biggest spender since LBJ (pre Emperor Zero, of course)

And now we'll get Bush chapter III, which of course will lead to another Xlinton.

So I don't really care what the republicans CAN do - because it appears they CAN do nothing. Nothing that merits conservative support, anyway.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-07-17   21:54:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rufus T Firefly (#19)

"Reagan WAS a conservative - and for some reason was able to overcome a very hostile Tip O'Neill"

For some reason? How about winning 44 states in 1980 and 49 states in 1984?

"So I don't really care what the republicans CAN do"

They CAN stay out of the way when Obama is self-destructing. Any attempt by the Republicans to "save" Obamacare, the Iran deal, the trade agreement or Iraq will be used against them when these policies fail.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-18   9:19:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: misterwhite (#20) (Edited)

They CAN stay out of the way when Obama is self-destructing.

That argument won't cut it now - the stakes are too high. Like it or not, we're in a (nominally) two party country. Republicans are SUPPOSED to be the opposition party.

For Pete's sake man - when the democrats are the "opposition" party, they still seem to achieve everything they want. Failing that, they "oppose" republicans and stop them. That is what "opposition" parties do.

"Zero is self-destructing" you say. Hogwash. He's getting absolutely everything he wants. He's missed nary a beat between Dirty Harry's Senate and the Turtle's Senate.

Zero's destruction is not about himself, it's about the country.

One final point: People like myself are often asked why we criticize reps and not dems. After all, it's the dems who are destroying the country. Here's my answer:

Democrats are skunks. You don't hate a skunk for being a skunk - for acting like a skunk or doing what a skunk does. It's a skunk. It is what it is. You don't criticize a skunk for being a skunk

Republicans claim however to be the enemies of skunks. They campaign that way and they sell themselves that way. They lie about who they are.

Because when all is said and done, they're skunks too.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-07-18   10:39:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rufus T Firefly (#21)

"Republicans are SUPPOSED to be the opposition party."

They are. What would you have them do? Seriously.

I've been answering your posts the best I can. Now it's your turn.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-18   12:32:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: misterwhite, Rufus T Firefly (#23)

( "Republicans are SUPPOSED to be the opposition party.")

They are. What would you have them do? Seriously.

"They are what? An "opposition party"?? The GOP?? Seriously...are YOU serious??

Are you actually trying to sell the notion that McStain, Graham, Boehner, and McConnell and the GOPe leadership weasels provide ANY "opposition" to 0blabla and Dem policies? MEMO: they are DOORMATS.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-18   12:39:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


Replies to Comment # 25.

#26. To: Liberator (#25)

"Are you actually trying to sell the notion that McStain, Graham, Boehner, and McConnell and the GOPe leadership weasels provide ANY "opposition" to 0blabla and Dem policies?"

Same question as in my post #23 -- What would you have them do?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-18 13:03:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Liberator (#25)

All the current oligarchs in both parties are ALL about keeping their piece of the "ring" and enriching themselves and their "friends" and families. They are EXACTLY like the Senators of latter day Rome. I keep waiting for Obama to appoint an ass to Senate majority leader...Oh wait................

jeremiad  posted on  2015-07-18 13:13:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


End Trace Mode for Comment # 25.

TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

Please report web page problems, questions and comments to webmaster@libertysflame.com