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Title: Rapture of the Church
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Published: Jul 14, 2015
Author: Don
Post Date: 2015-07-14 23:19:04 by Don
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Comments: 65
Many people don't believe in the Rapture of the Christian Church, or even know just what the Church is. There are many differing opinions on all phases of the End Times. The only valid opinions come from what we read in the Holy Bible. I will post an article tomorrow that doesn't skimp on references giving chapter and verse. I believe in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Church. More on that tomorrow.
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#2. To: Don (#0)
I am one that does not believe in that. I think it is a theory based on misinterpretation. I also think it is a theory that instills passivity & cowardice in Christians. Too many Christians do not properly oppose evil, even to the point of refusing to defend themselves. Because, " why worry, God will rapture us out of this mess? " It is the easy way out for them. I think that is a false doctrine.
But it feel good to believe in it and that is all that counts to the feeble minded.
And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.--1 Corinthians 8:2 - King James Version, Holman Christian Standard Bible, Aramaic Bible in Plain English
http://www.askelm.com/essentials/ ess025.htm
From the article at the link above that you gave me: "The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Theory, however, is a menacing doctrine that perverts the plain language of the text of the New Testament." My quote above from that article is enough for me to know that the article is nonsense. If any one wants to see how easily what is stated in that article is refuted, (Lord willing) I suggest they read the article then watch the short 15 minute video that I provided a link to in the #40 comment above in this thread. On the scale of 1 to 10 of things I have seen attempting to refute the Pre-Tribulation Rapture I give it a 1.
I just gave you a link. Rupture was not even Darby's invention - it came from this Scotish woman vision
What Rupture are you talking about? The thread is dealing with the Rapture. If by Rupture you actually meant Rapture you are right for it was not Darby's invention but you are wrong that it originated with a Scottish woman's vision. It is obvious that you have not watched the short 15 minute video that I gave a link to in #40 in this thread. Do you believe there is a Rapture and if so what position do you have on it pre, mid, post or pan?
Margaret Macdonald:
Margaret McDonald: Neither the Rapture doctrine nor the Pre-Tribulation Rapture doctrine started in the 19th century with Margaret McDonald or John Nelson Darby. I may have a lot more to say on this subject depending on how you answer this question: Do you believe the Bible reveals what is commonly called the Rapture by many, many Christians?
No. More, I think it is a made up doctrine "started in the 19th century with Margaret McDonald and John Nelson Darby"
A Pole's answer above was triggered by my question to him in #58 of this thread: "Do you believe the Bible reveals what is commonly called the Rapture by many, many Christians?" A Pole's answer is totally incorrect. The Doctrine of the Rapture far preceded who he thinks introduced it. That Doctrine can be traced back to early centuries long before the time of McDonald and Darby in the 19th century. Below you will find a link for a 15 page pdf file which illustrates in great detail various people who indicated the Rapture long before McDonald and Darby existed. The pdf file at that link also sheds some interesting well balanced light on the dispute between two Rapture positions: Pre-Tribulation vs Mid-Tribulation as well as showing some other interesting things concerning the Rapture. You can read the pdf file at the link's web page or you can download the file from that web page for later study or repeated studies.
I must be getting tired and it is time to quit soon for I forgot to paste the link referred to in my last comment in this thread. I will post it in my next comment in this thread.
Sorry, this document is weak and grasping at straws. Either way, please do not dump on me large pdf documents. You can read them yourself to bring one or two best points. It is obvious that Rapture Doctrine was formed in XIX century - you have countless proofs for that. Same way as Gettysburg Address.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest" Many people don't believe in the Rapture of the Christian Church "
#7. To: Stoner (#2)
God will rapture us out of this mess? " It is the easy way out for them. I think that is a false doctrine.
#9. To: rlk (#7)
God will rapture us out of this mess?" It is the easy way out for them. I think that is a false doctrine.
#50. To: Sockratease (#9)
#52. To: A Pole, All (#50)
http://www.askelm.com/essentials/ ess025.htm
#53. To: Sockratease (#52)
On the scale of 1 to 10 of things I have seen attempting to refute the Pre-Tribulation Rapture I give it a 1.
#56. To: A Pole (#53)
Rupture was not even Darby's invention - it came from this Scotish woman vision
#57. To: Sockratease (#56)
it originated with a Scottish woman's vision
#58. To: A Pole, All (#57)
it originated with a Scottish woman's vision
#59. To: Sockratease (#58)
Do you believe the Bible reveals what is commonly called the Rapture by many, many Christians?
#60. To: A Pole, All (#59)
No. More, I think it is a made up doctrine "started in the 19th century with Margaret McDonald and John Nelson Darby"
#61. To: A Pole, All (#60)
#62. To: A Pole, All (#61)
Here is the link promised in #60 in this thread and for the purpose stated in that comment but which I forgot to give in that comment:
#65. To: Sockratease (#62)
A HISTORY OF PRE-DARBY RAPTURE ADVOCATES
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