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America’s Armed Forces will be armed.” Trump went on to decry gun free zones on military bases as a product of “political correctness” and said removing those zones “will… [enable soldiers] to defend themselves against terrorists.” He added, “Our brave soldiers should not be at risk because of policy created by civilian leadership.” Trump’s opposition to military gun free zones is in line with his opposition to other gun control measures currently being pushed by gun control proponents like President Obama, Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV), Gabby Giffords, and Sandy Hook Promise. Chief among these is his opposition to expanding background checks. Trump explicitly stated that he does “not support expanding background checks” because our current background check system proves such checks do not work. He added: They make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to acquire firearms while consistently failing to stop criminals from getting guns. We should re-examine our policy to make sure that these prohibitions do not impede law abiding citizens from exercising their Second Amendment rights Breitbart News has previously reported that the most prominent of public attackers over the last 15 years all passed background checks to acquire the guns they used to commit their crimes. These attackers include Dylann Roof (Charleston), Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi (Garland), Jared and Amanda Miller (Las Vegas), Elliot Rodger (Santa Barabara), Ivan Lopez (Fort Hood 2014), Darion Marcus Aguilar (Maryland mall), Karl Halverson Pierson (Arapahoe High School), Paul Ciancia (LAX), Andrew John Engeldinger (Minneapolis), Aaron Alexis (DC Navy Yard), Tennis Melvin Maynard (West Virginia), Wade Michael Page (Sinkh Temple), James Holmes (Aurora theater), Jared Loughner (Tucson), Nidal Hasan (Fort Hood 2009), Jiverly Wong (Binghamton), Seung-Hui Cho (Virginia Tech), Naveed Haq (Seattle), and Mark Barton (Atlanta). Background checks proved impotent to prevent any of these attackers from carrying out their heinous deeds but served well to make it more difficult for law-abiding citizens to get the guns they need for self-defense. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 17. #1. To: out damned spot (#0) He's right. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-07-10   10:09:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter (#1) He's right. He's pandering to the GOP base voters, nothing more. Trump was always quite pro-abortion and largely anti-gun, as are most New Yorkers. Only when trying to campaign for the GOP nomination has he suddenly realized how pro-life and pro-gun he is. I'm not sure the military wants or needs to have all the personnel on bases fully armed at all times. This sounds like Trump shooting from the hip. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-10   11:54:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: TooConservative, sneakypete, GarySpFc, CZ82 (#2) I'm not sure the military wants or needs to have all the personnel on bases fully armed at all times. It would never happen unless the military installation was under direct attack. However I advocated we go back to battalions or companies have round the clock armed staff duty officers and NCOs. Such is still controlled by military discipline. The duty personnel sign out the weapon, and ammo. As the threat increases the duty NCO becomes the Sergeant of the guard and they establish the armed guard force within general orders. redleghunter  posted on  2015-07-10   22:05:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: redleghunter (#13) I'm not sure the military wants or needs to have all the personnel on bases fully armed at all times. It would never happen unless the military installation was under direct attack. IIRC,it was a brigade of the 101st Abn Div that has a fire base over ran by the NVA one night because the only soldiers there that were armed was the skeleton crew on night watch on the berms. The NVA were through the wire and in there before weapons and ammo could be issued. This was a forward fire base full of infantry troops,but their officers didn't trust them enough to have weapons and ammo unless they were part of the guard detail on the berms. When I first got to VN I was on physical profile with a pulled muscle in my lower back and a dislocated shoulder. Because of this I couldn't stay in SF,so they shipped me off to a leg signal company at Nha Trang,where I became the company armorer. There were guys who served a whole tour in that Battalion and never once even had their rifle in their hands,or even saw the ammo because it was locked away in bunkers between the barracks.. In this case it was probably a good thing nobody was armed because the "plan" that was in place for an attack was to issue M-14's and to leg signal soldiers that hadn't even held a rifle since basic training,and they would then fall in behind the sand bag walls along side of the barracks,and face the guys in the next platoon about 25-30 feet away who were behind the sandbag walls along side their barracks. Can you imagine what would have happened if just ONE shot had been fired? And anyody that has ever trained troops to carry and handle firearms KNOWS there will be at one one dummy with round in the chamber,the safety off,and his finger on the trigger. One night 3 NVA mortar rounds came in close enough to hear the explosions,and everybody panicked and were running around like chickens with their heads cut off. I refused to issue anybody any weapons or ammo,and had some people panicking and mumbling because of it. Mumbling quietly because *I* did have a couple of loaded weapons on me. I didn't issue them because there was and still is no doubt in my mind that ONE VC with ONE bullet in his old Mosin Nagant 1891 Bolt action Soviet rifle could shoot one time straight up in the air,and there would have been hundreds of causalities. BTW,there was no ground attack that night,or any other night. Not even during Tet of 68. The base was just too damn big for the NVA to attack. They limited their attacks to downtown Nha Trang. *I* am in favor of a platoon or so of well-trained infantry troops being assigned to each support unit as a security detail,but support troops are NOT combat troops and just don't have the experience and judgement to be handed automatic weapons when there isn't even an established perimeter. sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-10   23:24:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: sneakypete (#14) I am pretty sure it is standard procedure not to arm soldiers except guards on bases as SOP. Trump is just repeating talk show radio talking points by people who thought they had the answer to that Muslim shooting up the base. Pericles  posted on  2015-07-11   1:09:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 17. #22. To: Pericles (#17) (Edited) I am pretty sure it is standard procedure not to arm soldiers except guards on bases as SOP. Military Police are always armed,and in some areas on some bases the security is very tight and lots of people are running around armed within the compounds. There are compounds even the MP's and the Commanding General of some bases can't get into and would be shot if they tried to force their way in. If your name and photo aren't on the access list,you don't get in,and if you don't have valid reasons to be in there for operational or training purposes,your name is NOT on the list. Period. BTW,you would be shot as a last resort. If you were by yourself instead of a member of some assault team,you would be handcuffed and detained for questioning initially by the people who run the compound,and then by people higher in THEIR particular food chain. At some point the regular army,navy,usmc,or af legal system may get involved,but you can't count on it. That all depends on what they find out about you during the initial questioning. sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-11 10:01:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 17. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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