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politics and politicians Title: GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down The head of the Republican National Committee, responding to demands from increasingly worried party leaders, spent nearly an hour Wednesday on the phone with Donald Trump, urging the presidential candidate to tone down his inflammatory comments about immigration that have infuriated a key election constituency. The call from Chairman Reince Priebus, described by donors and consultants briefed on the conversation and confirmed by the RNC, underscores the extent to which Trump has gone from an embarrassment to a cause for serious alarm among top Republicans in Washington and nationwide. Click here to read the rest of the story. Poster Comment: Screw the party''s image. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Gatlin, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0) The party's image SUX! They're in lockstep with Obama and Hillary. Anything resembling a McCain, Romney, Bush, Boehner, McConnell, etc, will LOSE! The only hope of victory is to run a phony republican, aka a RINO. The Real Republicans SUCK!
#2. To: Gatlin (#0) Donald Trump's ideas are not Republican ideas. That's why the Party is frantic about it. He has the Republican NAME, and that makes it possible for people who are excessively devoted to the GOP to vote for him, but his policies are not Republican policies at all. (Mind you, that's a GOOD thing, because the Republican policies are dumb, and nobody will vote for those but Republicans…who are about 30% of the electorate). So, with Trump the GOP is getting what it got with Eisenhower and with Reagan - a populist who faces issues pragmatically - but that is not really the GOP. Hence the panic: Trump could WIN, and the Republicans win, and then Trump could get in there and do what Trump thinks is best, and that ain't the Republican Platform.
#3. To: hondo68 (#1) They're in lockstep with Obama and Hillary. Uhh - yup...
#4. To: hondo68 (#1) The Party's image SUX! It's not their IMAGE that sucks - it's THEM. They suck. The Republican Party sucks. Trump's ok. I can vote for Trump.
#5. To: Vicomte13, A K A Stone (#2) So, with Trump the GOP is getting what it got with Eisenhower and with Reagan - a populist who faces issues pragmatically - but that is not really the GOP. Hence the panic: Trump could WIN, and the Republicans win, and then Trump could get in there and do what Trump thinks is best, and that ain't the Republican Platform. I can agree with this. I believe what Trump thinks is best, will be best for the country. I also believe Trump when he says: "Make America great again."
#6. To: Vicomte13 (#2) (Edited) That's why the Party is frantic about it. The Party(tm) is frantic about it because The Donald brings his own purse and doesn't need the permission of the brainworks of the farm -- who fear loosing their entitlements to Milk and Apples.
#7. To: Vicomte13, tooconservative (#4) Trump's ok. I can vote for Trump. TC is going to cry. He doesn't get it.
#8. To: Gatlin (#0) The party has an image?!!!
#9. To: Gatlin (#0) GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image as Donald Trump doubles down If anyone expects me to feel sorry for the mindless corrupt assholes, I don't. They've played a great part in the destruction of this country.
#10. To: patriot wes (#8) The party has an image?!!! Yep.
#11. To: Gatlin (#0) Who cares what they think? The republican "leaders" are RINO-ASS whimps and traitors to Conservative ideals and need to be replaced !!!
#12. To: A K A Stone (#7) TC is going to cry. He doesn't get it. Americans like populists: Washington (who was popular because he was the only truly NATIONAL figure), Jackson, Eisenhower, JFK, Reagan. In recent years, Perot. Establishment people feel threatened by populists - hence the irrational hatred of Sarah Palin; it was precisely BECAUSE of her sudden popularity, which was because of who and what she was, not policy. Trump is a populist. He's popular, and some of the things he says, he says because he's super-rich and therefore CAN say these things that most people feel. That's why I like him: he says things, the professional political and media class go berserk and ridicule him (as they did Perot), but huge numbers of people (like me) fold our arms and smile and say we agree with Trump. Part of it is vicarious joy at seeing somebody rich and powerful take politically incorrect positions, and have the wealth to be able to give the finger to the apparatus that would take down you or me if we did it. Because Trump's entertainment business is profitable, when companies cut off relations with him over politics, they do themselves damage, and then he comes right after them, and will exact revenge, and that does MORE damage. It's FUN.
#13. To: Gatlin (#0) Don't know if the party image can get any lower. But Trump can't fix it . He reinforces the 'clown car' image. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #14. To: tomder55 (#13) Don't know if the party image can get any lower. But Trump can't fix it . He reinforces the 'clown car' image. As I see it, Trump is not trying to fix the party image....he is trying to fix a "broken" America. And I believe he can do that better than anyone running right now.
#15. To: Vicomte13 (#12) Americans like populists: Washington (who was popular because he was the only truly NATIONAL figure), Jackson, Eisenhower, JFK, Reagan. One of the dumbest things you've written. Washington was anything but a populist. Same with Eisenhower. And JFK and Reagan were elected on the very thinnest of margins and neither could be credibly described as a populist.
#16. To: tomder55 (#13) But Trump can't fix it . He reinforces the 'clown car' image. You're preaching to people who are standing in line to get into Trump's clown car. May as well save your keystrokes.
#17. To: TooConservative (#15) . . . Reagan [was] elected on the very thinnest of margins Neither looks like a thin margin to me.
#18. To: Vicomte13 (#12) Don't forget the emperor . He filled stadiums in 2008 . Americans have also rejected their share of populists too. William Jennings Bryant comes immediately to mind. Huey Long was rejected (mostly because FDR stole a lot of his ideas ) . James B Weaver in 1892 went no where . George McGovern got trounced running a populist campaign . Bernie Sanders is not going to last . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #19. To: TooConservative (#15) Washington was anything but a populist. Same with Eisenhower. And JFK and Reagan were elected on the very thinnest of margins and neither could be credibly described as a populist. Washington and Eisenhower were both popular choices. The people loved them, because they were heroic generals. JFK was popular: he was a young, handsome hero. Reagan was elected by the thinnest of margins? He nearly swept the electoral college.
#20. To: tomder55 (#18) Obams is pretty popular. Clinton too. Effective American Presidents have charisma, and the people like them and are willing to follow them. FDR, JFK, Reagan, Clinton, Obama - they fit this mold - along with Teddy, Jackson. Eisenhower, Grant and Washington were full-blown war heroes. So was Jackson, but, like with JFK, his military heroism merely enhanced his appeal. It's easy to follow a leader you like. You're willing to make some sacrifices in order to advance his cause, which you identify partially with your own, but also because you like him. Popular leaders are charismatic.
#21. To: Vicomte13 (#19) (Edited) Washington and Eisenhower were both popular choices. There's a big difference between "populist" and "popular", as you should already know.
Reagan was elected by the thinnest of margins? He nearly swept the electoral college. Only at the last minute. It was a squeaker against Anderson drawing off GOP votes until it suddenly broke into a landslide.
#22. To: Vicomte13 (#20) Obams is pretty popular. Clinton too. Effective American Presidents have charisma, and the people like them and are willing to follow them. There is a difference between being popular , being a populist (populism). Populism is a "political strategy based on a calculated appeal to the interests or prejudices of ordinary people" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/populism Yes the emperor is a populist . Jimmy Carter also ran a populist platform (basically being a Washington outsider for the folks ). If Elizabeth Warren runs ,she'll try to run as a populist . Trump is definitely trying that model ,as is Bernie Sanders . Evita Clinton is trying it but everyone sees through her bs. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #23. To: tomder55, Vicomte13 (#22) Populism is a "political strategy based on a calculated appeal to the interests or prejudices of ordinary people" I was taken aback at applying the label to Washington and Eisenhower who are surely two of the least populist presidents. The idea of Washington as a populist like Huey Long is just absurd.
#24. To: Gatlin (#0) (Edited) GOP leaders fear damage to party’s image LOL! THAT's a good one! The GOP worrying about their image is akin to a crack whore worried about her virtue. My apologies to crack whores for putting them in the same class as the GOP. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #25. To: TooConservative (#21) Only at the last minute On election day. The only poll that counts
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