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Title: Hey - Precious Metals - What's Happening?
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Published: Jul 5, 2015
Author: Chuck_Wagon
Post Date: 2015-07-05 13:22:18 by Chuck_Wagon
Keywords: gold, silver, money
Views: 5245
Comments: 57

Hello there, folks.

I am starting this thread for those who are interested in
'hard money' - call it 'paleo-investing' it you will.

The silver price has apparently been suppressed - for a while.
Many so-called pundits and prognosticators predict that it MAY
soon move upwards.

The purpose of this thread is to keep track of these things.
Participate if you will...

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#1. To: Chuck_Wagon (#0)

The silver price has apparently been suppressed - for a while. Many so-called pundits and prognosticators predict that it MAY soon move upwards.

I'll believe it when I see it - and maybe not even then.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-05   13:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0)

EDIT:

That should have been: "if you will" not "it you will".

DOH!

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-05   13:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: SOSO (#1)

Lead would be the only precious metal worth buying and then there is a limit it does no good.

Gold and Silver are only worth something if the economy crashes slowly and recovers slowly. Its controlled by the same people who control paper money. They tell you to buy it while its high and when you can't hold it because you need the money you sell it back to them at a low price. They win all the way around.

Justified  posted on  2015-07-05   13:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: SOSO (#1)

...I'll believe it when I see it...

Was $40-something - now it's $15.
Silver has a lot of industrial uses.
It will (most likely) eventually get back up there.
Question is: When? (IMO)

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-05   13:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Chuck_Wagon (#4)

It will (most likely) eventually get back up there. Question is: When? (IMO)

I'll believe it when I see it....and maybe not even then. But stock up if you wish. Hpwever keep in mind the historic gold/silver price ratio.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-05   13:51:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Chuck_Wagon (#4)

"Question is: When?"

My Magic 8 Ball says it will hit 28 on March 4, 2016. Or 4 on March 28.

Hard to read this thing. But it's never wrong.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-05   14:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Justified (#3)

Lead would be the only precious metal worth buying and then there is a limit it does no good.

Lead is a noble metal. Some noble metals are also precious metals - the former has scientific justification, the latter just manmade significance. Some may classify lead a precious metal but IMO that's a stretch. However, lead ammo may very well be precious in some instances.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-05   14:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Chuck_Wagon, Itzlzha, Murron (#4)

Silver has a lot of industrial uses.
It will (most likely) eventually get back up there.
Question is: When? (IMO)

The day you or I can no longer afford to buy it. Or can't. The depressed value of Gold and Silver makes no sense as fiat currency continue to be devalued.

I've got the nagging suspicion that the world's controlling elites are purposely being manipulated, crashing precious metal value. This until all silver and gold ownership will again be surrendered to the One World Government "at fair (depressed) market price." Can't have the (former) middle class and peons owning gold.

In the meantime, abodanza! Mangia! We really have been blessed to have lived in a brief era of mankind when we truly could practically eat whatever we wanted, affordably, freshly, and with the greatest variety. Some days I could scarcely believe how fortunate I was -- noshing on a dinner of fresh jumbo shrimp, filet mignon, etc....for barely the price of an hour of work.

So to that, tip your glass of ChiCom wine, and let's dig into our ChiCom farm-raised Talapia, ChiCom farmed veggies, and dessert :-) One day after the elites' metal confiscation, the elites' generosity will end.

And in memorium to the days of banquets that even the lower class of America could afford ocassionally, here is one of my favorite scenes from Soylent Green:

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-05   14:11:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: SOSO (#7)

Lead is a noble metal.

Superman thought so.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-05   14:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SOSO, Chuck_Wagon (#5)

Hpwever keep in mind the historic gold/silver price ratio.

How can we also not keep in mind FDR's historical unconstitutional gold/wealth confiscation? And moratorium on the public buying Gold for decades?

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-05   14:15:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Chuck_Wagon (#0)

What's paper "gold" and bars of plated tungsten going for these days?

VxH  posted on  2015-07-05   14:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Chuck_Wagon (#0)

VxH  posted on  2015-07-05   14:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Chuck_Wagon (#0)

I like aluminum. It's easy to machine and/or cast into all sorts of useful configurations.

VxH  posted on  2015-07-05   14:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Liberator (#8) (Edited)

'...one of my favorite scenes from Soylent Green...'

Yes - I remember that scene well.
So - shall I build the greenhouse
and raise most of my own food and live
reasonably well?

Of course!

If my investments do well (so I can buy the additional land) -
and I don't die first...

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-05   14:27:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Justified (#3)

Lead certainly has it's uses.
No getting around that...

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-05   14:39:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Chuck_Wagon (#0)

Is that dip in '08 due to McCain losing the election? More confidence in the dollar, after mcsatan lost, followed by panic silver buying after a year or so of Obongo.

If it looks like a Bush or Clinton might get elected in '16 the value of precious metals could skyrocket, due to a sentiment of impending doom, and fear of, The End Of The World As We Know It (TEOTWAWKI).

Silver looks like a good buy to me.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-07-05   14:45:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Chuck_Wagon (#4)

Was $40-something - now it's $15.

Yup. IIRC,it was two billionaire brothers in Texas that manipulated and destroyed the silver market. They bought it cheap and then their massive buys and the rumors they spread drove the price up,and then they bailed with more billions and the silver market collapsed.

The Bass Brothers? Does that sound right?

Silver has a lot of industrial uses. It will (most likely) eventually get back up there. Question is: When? (IMO)

IMHO it will never go that high again. It's not rare or particularly valuable,wasn't worth that much money back then,and will probably never be worth that much ever.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   16:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Justified (#3)

Gold and Silver are only worth something if the economy crashes slowly and recovers slowly.

They are only worth something if there is someone who has things you need that is willing to trade for them. In a total market collapse,things like coffee,bandages,medicine,gasoline,and bullets will be more valuable than either.

Let's say for example the entire US economy collapses,which it will one day unless things change.

Then lets say you have 20 lbs of gold stuffed away in a closet. Who in your neighborhood are you going to find who will trade you food,water,clothing,medicine,and comfort items for a few flakes of gold? Or even the whole 20 lbs? You can't eat it,drink it,or defend yourself with it,so what good is it to the average person?

Even fi there were an established price per ounce for it,how many people do you know other than drug dealers that have scales accurate enough to weigh grams and who have access to transportation and markets where he can sell he gold?

Every consumer item,including gold is only worth what people are willing to pay for it.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   17:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: hondo68 (#16)

Silver looks like a good buy to me.

Ok,who will you sell it to?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   17:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#17)

" The Bass Brothers? Does that sound right? "

No. It was the Hunt brothers.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-05   17:10:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#18)

I remember some old timers telling me that during the great depression, that the most common item for barter was .22 LR shells. I would have thought eggs, or something similiar. But, eggs did have a rather short shelf life. One of the characteristics of good money is durability.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-05   17:16:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Stoner (#20)

" The Bass Brothers? Does that sound right? "

No. It was the Hunt brothers.

Thanks for the correection.

Fishing versus hunting. I was still in the same ballpark!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   17:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Stoner (#21) (Edited)

I would have thought eggs, or something similiar. But, eggs did have a rather short shelf life. One of the characteristics of good money is durability.

Yup. Durable goods,seeds,water,whiskey,bandages,and other things that don't spoil are always valuable trade items.

So what if somebody wants to offer you 100 for a gallon of gas to run his generator if the gas stations are all closed? Where are you going to buy the gas to replace it,and how important is being able to occasionally run your generator,tiller,cultivator,etc,etc,etc?

One of the characteristics of good money is durability.

Well,the truth is that a 100 dollar bill is not money. It is only the promise of money.

Money can truly be defined as "anything you can use to trade for things you need and don't have."

Gold and silver aren't very useful to most people,and neither is paper.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   17:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete, Chuck_Wagon (#19)

who will you sell it to?

Someone that likes silver, like Chuck_Wagon, who has something that I want in exchange? Basically you just have to find someone who wants it.

Paper money is even more useless than metal, and people use it all the time.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-07-05   18:07:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#23)

" Gold and silver aren't very useful to most people "

Tell that to the Jews that used it, along with jewels, to bribe their way out of Europe when the Nazi's started the concentration camps.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-05   18:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: SOSO (#7)

Lead is a noble metal. Some noble metals are also precious metals - the former has scientific justification, the latter just manmade significance. Some may classify lead a precious metal but IMO that's a stretch. However, lead ammo may very well be precious in some instances.

Hmm, I spent 12 years as a precious metal refiner, as afar as I remember, noble metals are those that need to be reduced by more than one acid, usually Aqua Regia. (Hydrochloric/Nitric)

Lead is reduced by nitric and made a to a sulphate with the addition of sulphuric, that's how to remove lead from solution.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-07-05   18:28:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: All (#26)

Noble metals are Platinum Group metals, and Gold, at least those that I have worked with, have zero idea about uranium etc...

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-07-05   18:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Dead Culture Watch (#26)

Whoa...I am impressed, DCW :-)

And here I'd though the term "noble metals" was just...well, a term.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-05   18:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: hondo68 (#24)

Paper money is even more useless than metal, and people use it all the time.

Except in times where Charmin is in short supply. Or...frankly, which "paper" was used doesn't seem to have mattered since 1992.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-05   18:36:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Liberator (#28)

Lol, ....ha, ya, Aqua Regia is Latin or something like that for 'Royal Water', because of its ability to reduce noble metals, silver is NOT a noble metal, as it only takes Nitric to reduce it, in fact, the addition of Hyrochoric will cause it to form a protective shell around it. Once it it reduced with Nitric, it's precipitated out of solution with Hydrochloric. Ran through a filter and washed and sent to foundry and made into anodes for further refining using electricity.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-07-05   18:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: hondo68 (#24)

Here's a silly song......

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-05   19:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: hondo68, Chuck_Wagon (#16)

Silver looks like a good buy to me.

Why?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-07-05   19:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Justified (#3)

Gold and Silver are only worth something if the economy crashes slowly and recovers slowly.

Not true.

When the $USD weakens, and it will, PMs will rise.

The Patriot Militia, Inc.

Percy Misanthrope  posted on  2015-07-05   21:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: sneakypete (#23)

" Money can truly be defined as "anything you can use to trade for things you need and don't have." "

Money is merely a medium of exchange.

It has taken many forms over the centuries, sea shells, tobacco, fish, minerals, .22 ammunition, etc, etc, etc. But probably the longest serving form has been gold & silver coins.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-05   21:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Percy Misanthrope (#33)

You assume a slow decay. When the economy drops it will be fast and hard. Pm's will not be all that you think. Stuff that people want will be the commodity.

Justified  posted on  2015-07-05   21:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin, funny money (#32)

Why?

Because it's real, it's stable, and from the look of the chart is likely to go up even if no major economic collapse happens soon.

Fiat paper currency has no intrinsic value, it's all based on CONfidence. Silver is a commodity which will always have value.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-07-05   21:46:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Dead Culture Watch (#26)

Hmm, I spent 12 years as a precious metal refiner, as afar as I remember, noble metals are those that need to be reduced by more than one acid, usually Aqua Regia. (Hydrochloric/Nitric)

A definition of a noble metal is one that is resistant to oxidation and corrosion. Cetainly gold falls into that catagory as it requires Aqua Regia ( a mixture of HCl and nitric acid)for it to dissolve. SOme classify copper as a noble metal but it will readily dissolve in just nitric acid (gives off some very pretty colors when it does).

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-05   22:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: SOSO (#1)

A $5 canadian silver coin will buy you a lot of goods when the paper collapses. Rice, beans, water, fuel, TP, bullets you can stock up on also. A smart man buys at least 2 coins a week as long as the price is below $25. At worst, it is a loss of $13 or so. The Maple dollar will still be worth a 5 spot, and that is a who lot more than a Lincoln will be worth after the world dumps the dollar.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-07-06   0:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: jeremiad (#38)

A $5 canadian silver coin will buy you a lot of goods when the paper collapses.

You can't eat silver (or gold or platinum or anything other than food). Currency only has the value that people place on it. If sh*t hits the fan carrots will be worth much more as currency than silver (or gold or platinum.....)

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-06   0:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: hondo68 (#36) (Edited)

Silver looks like a good buy to me.
Why?
Because it's real, it's stable, and from the look of the chart is likely to go up even if no major economic collapse happens soon.

Yes, silver is real. However, silver is not stable by any means. Stable means not likely to change or fail; firmly established. Silver has been doing nothing but changing or failing to the down side and losing value. Furthermore, silver in no way can be considered firmly established.

You looking at the 5-year Silver London Fix Chart and saying silver is likely to go up is to which something is as probable as misterwhite’s Magic 8 Ball and just look at his results. Of course if you are an expert in Technical Analysis then you may to some degree forecast the future price of silver based on an examination of past price movements. But that will be one huge “may” since the success rate is very small when using Technical Analysis as an investment guide thus proving that Technical Analysis Is stupid.

As an interesting side note, take time to read this article that was projecting silver price to increase 400 percent in three years. Note the date on the article is November 2012. With four months remaining, what do you think is the probability of the forecast in the article being correct?

Fiat paper currency has no intrinsic value, it's all based on CONfidence. Silver is a commodity which will always have value.

That is correct, fiat money has no intrinsic value, but it is still used solely as a means of payment. Fiat money does risk becoming worthless due to hyperinflation. Silver has value relative to what….fiat money?

All this is no reason not to buy silver. It only points to a question that cannot be answered. That is, when and at what price? Just looking at a chart will not furnish that answer.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-07-06   0:54:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#40)

All this is no reason not to buy silver. It only points to a question that cannot be answered. That is, when and at what price? Just looking at a chart will not furnish that answer.

Ding, ding, ding....we have a winner!!

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-06   0:56:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: hondo68 (#36)

Sooner or later the timber wolf will howl...

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-06   1:36:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Stoner (#25)

" Gold and silver aren't very useful to most people "

Tell that to the Jews that used it, along with jewels, to bribe their way out of Europe when the Nazi's started the concentration camps.

Are you seriously trying to compare a time and place in Europe 75 years ago where it was fairly common for some stores and banks to have scales and buy or take gold dust or silver in trade or buy them,with modern day America where some places don't even want to take cash and only drug dealers have gram scales?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-06   9:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Chuck_Wagon (#31)

Here's a silly song......

I liked New Riders. I think Lonesome LA Cowboy was my favorite of theirs.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-06   9:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Gatlin (#40)

hat is correct, fiat money has no intrinsic value, but it is still used solely as a means of payment.

For most of us in the west these days we use plastic and electronic bits and bytes as means of payment.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-06   9:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: sneakypete (#45)

hat is correct, fiat money has no intrinsic value, but it is still used solely as a means of payment.

For most of us in the west these days we use plastic and electronic bits and bytes as means of payment.

And those payment transactions by pieces of plastic and electronic bits and bytes are registered and transferred as fiat money....therefore, using fiat money as a means of payment.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-07-06   9:30:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: sneakypete (#18)

Vodka is a good currency. In real crisis people crave it and you can make it. :)

Store sugar, yeast and get some copper equipment.

A Pole  posted on  2015-07-06   9:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A Pole (#47)

Vodka is a good currency.

Not as good as corn whiskey,though.

Not personally worth anything to me anymore since I don't drink,but it's damn sure valuable trade goods.

So are cigarettes and cigars.

For some of the same reasons. Addicts gotta have their fix is the prime one.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-06   9:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: sneakypete (#44)

I liked New Riders.

You used the past tense.
Is the band now defunct?
I like them also -
But I haven't been paying attention.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-06   10:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Chuck_Wagon (#42)

Sooner or later the timber wolf will howl...

And the Sheeple steps on the lizards tail...

Saltwater crocodiles, known in Australia as salties, are the most dangerous land reptiles in the world. This is due in large part to their massive size. The largest crocodiles grow to lengths of roughly 20.7 ft and can weigh up to 3,000 lbs, but even the average male crocodile poses a significant threat to mankind. Average males grow to lengths of 14 to 17 ft, and weigh anywhere between 800 and 2,200 lbs.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-07-06   10:26:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: hondo68 (#50)

A number of years ago I watched a documentary on those saltwater
crocodiles. They swim between islands around Australia.
Those things can swim for miles with no difficulty.
I never want to meet one.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-06   11:59:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: sneakypete (#43)

" Are you seriously trying to compare a time and place in Europe 75 years ago "

Don't be ridiculous. However, you did not put any limitations on your statement. I just merely used a real world example that your statement was wrong.

My example did not cover normal commercial transactions. But in the real world, bribes are made, and gold & silver are very good mediums for such.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-06   13:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Chuck_Wagon, Ferret Mike (#49)

You used the past tense. Is the band now defunct?

I think it was around 1974 or so that was the last time I remember a new album being put out by them.

It was basically started by Jerry Garcia and Bob Weir from the Grateful Dead because they wanted to play some country music and not have to listen to a bunch of crap from their hippy Grateful Dead fans. Jerry is no longer playing in this dimension,and last I heard of Bob Weir he was the Republican Party Chariman for his home county in Montana or one of the other northwestern rural mountain states.

No kidding.

I'm pinging Mike because he is a huge Dead fan,and he would know.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-06   16:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Chuck_Wagon (#51)

I never want to meet one.

Tastes like chicken.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-06   16:05:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: sneakypete (#53)

...1974 or so...

Thanks for the update.

I'm currently 51.
Does that qualify as 'old'?
Middle-aged of course - but certainly not 'old'...

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-06   19:42:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Chuck_Wagon (#55)

I'm currently 51. Does that qualify as 'old'?

That depends of if you are looking up at that number,or down on it.

I still had plenty of energy to get into trouble back when I was just 51.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-06   21:17:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: sneakypete (#56)

...plenty of energy to get into trouble back when I was just 51.

Energy isn't really much of a problem -
nor is the inspiration (to get into trouble) -
I suppose the problem might be motivation
(to get into trouble) - I might lack motivation.
Which might be tied in with the whole 'responsibility'
thing.

Now, don't get me wrong - I have no wife or kids - so no
responsibility there. I have a sort-of girlfriend -
who's attitude toward me is: "Whatever, you goofball..." -
my father is now gone - but my 81 year old Mom needs my help.

Yup - that's where my responsibility really lies. My father
said so before he passed.

My little brother? On the west coast. Has the 'responsibilty'
to call Mom every 6 months. Maybe.

So should I go on rambling? Nahhhh... I just woke up.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-07   7:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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