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United States News Title: Police Celebrate 4th Of July With Nationwide No Refusal Checkpoints and Forced Blood Draws Happy 4th of July, the day where Americans celebrate imaginary freedom, and police departments nationwide make millions of dollars violating the rights of nonviolent individuals. Under the pretense of catching drunk drivers, police will be patrolling the streets and setting up checkpoints all over the country this weekend. In some cases they will arrest drunk drivers, in others they will search and arrest nonviolent drug offenders, while other people may get citations for problems with their vehicle or registration. Especially for people who haven’t even done anything wrong, these checkpoints are a gross violation of privacy and other natural born rights. Free people should not be stopped and searched or questioned in any way if they are attempting to travel freely. However, we sadly now live in a world where rights like traveling are seen as privileges, to be given and taken by government. As it stands right now, the way that the state deals with drunk driving is tyrannical and infringes upon everyone’s rights, even people like myself, who hardly ever drink. Economist Jeffrey Tucker wrote an article on this subject and discussed the problems with the status quo while offering some solutions as well.
There is no doubt that drunk driving should be discouraged and that solutions to prevent people from driving drunk should be explored. However, it is entirely possible to do this without violating anyone’s rights in the process. Meanwhile, in police state USA, it is business as usual. John Vibes is an author, researcher and investigative journalist who takes a special interest in the counter culture and the drug war. In addition to his writing and activist work he organizes a number of large events including the Free Your Mind Conference, which features top caliber speakers and whistle-blowers from all over the world. You can contact him and stay connected to his work at his Facebook page. You can find his 65 chapter Book entitled “Alchemy of the Timeless Renaissance” at bookpatch.com. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest "Police Celebrate 4th Of July With Nationwide No Refusal Checkpoints and Forced Blood Draws" And because it's the 4th they'll be playing this music at all the checkpoints:
#2. To: Deckard (#0) Under the pretense of catching drunk drivers, police will be patrolling the streets and setting up checkpoints all over the country this weekend. I thought they were going to be saving/protecting us from terrorists and sharks this weekend.
#3. To: Fred Mertz (#2) I thought they were going to be saving/protecting us from terrorists and sharks this weekend. Unlike your one trick pony, libtard anarchy routine, LE can actually multitask. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #4. To: GrandIsland, Fred Mertz (#3) (Edited) Unlike your one trick pony, libtard anarchy routine, LE can actually multitask. Is that so? Cop Kills Man with Patrol Car While Speeding & Looking at Laptop, Flexes Blue Privilege – No Charges Yeah - cops are above the law. Assholes! Oh - here's another one fascist-boy. Cop Drives 126mph While Texting, Kills Teen Girls Former Illinois State trooper Matt Mitchell was driving at 126 mph on Interstate 64 while emailing/texting his girlfriend on his phone. In his state, he crossed over the median and crashed head-on to another car, killing sisters Kelli and Jessica Uhl and injuring Kelly and Christine Marler, of Fayetteville. Mitchell sustained severe injuries to his leg. Mitchell was suspended with pay for two years on his $68,000 annual salary. After pleading guilty to criminal charges, Mitchell resigned from the state police. His guilty plea landed him 30 months probation. Now Mitchell is filing for worker's compensation, which could result in him receiving tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars, which are non-taxable.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#5. To: Deckard (#0) Police Celebrate 4th Of July With Nationwide No Refusal Checkpoints and Forced Blood Draws FANTASTIC...Great Work LE! Research shows that for every dollar invested in checkpoints, communities save between $6 and $23 in costs from alcohol-related crashes.
#6. To: Gatlin (#5) Tater, you sure that isn't in revenue from said offenses?
#7. To: Gatlin (#5) Forced blood draws are abhorrent.
#8. To: Deckard (#4) Cop Kills Man with Patrol Car While Speeding & Looking at Laptop, – No Charges Break that down... He: Drove Sped Typed on a laptop Killed And provided his own criminal defense... all at the same time. That's called multitasking. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #9. To: A K A Stone (#7) Forced blood draws are abhorrent. Most states (if not all) require a vehicular fatality or an injury that most likely will result in a fatality to "force" a blood draw... and before the person is held down and a needle is "forced" in his arm, a WARRANT is signed by a judge. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #10. To: A K A Stone (#7) Forced blood draws are abhorrent. I agree….but a drunk driver killing
#11. To: Fred Mertz (#6) Research shows that for every dollar invested in checkpoints, communities save between $6 and $23 in costs from alcohol-related crashes. I think it means savings from the costs of alcohol-related crashes that result in something like this:
What do you think, Fred?
#12. To: Gatlin (#11) What do you think, Fred? I don't think you should be posting pictures of yourself on the Internet.
#13. To: GrandIsland (#8) Break that down... He: Add to that the paid vacation and probation instead of jail time. And you defend this murdering POS cop. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#14. To: Fred Mertz (#12) The picture of what a drunk driver can do to a beautiful girl is repulsive....right, Fred?
#15. To: Fred Mertz, Gatlin, misterwhite, GrandIsland (#12) Looks like the police state fascists are out in force today, and not just on the roads. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#16. To: GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#9) Most states (if not all) require a vehicular fatality or an injury that most likely will result in a fatality to "force" a blood draw... and before the person is held down and a needle is "forced" in his arm, a WARRANT is signed by a judge. SCOTUS ruled a couple years back that police can't force DUI suspect to give a blood sample unless that have a search warrant. Forced blood draws can only be done in felony DUI cases with a search warrant. Forced blood draws are done in only a very small number of cases.
#17. To: Deckard, Fred Mertz, misterwhite, GrandIsland (#15) Sober people's lives matter....don't drink and drive! That is the message you should be trying to get out!!
#18. To: Deckard (#13) And you defend this murdering POS cop. More YELLA propaganda. I never defended anyone. Hell, I didn't even read your posted link. I don't willingly read your YELLA bullshit. For all I know, the officer should be wood chipped alive. All I said was, officers are able to multitask instead of your one trick cop blocking pony agenda. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #19. To: Deckard (#13) (Edited) Deckard, stand up and raise your right hand to make the “Sober Drivers Pledge.”
Read this out loud:
I hereby make a personal commitment to avoid driving drunk as well as to prevent drunk driving when I see it about to happen right in front of me.
There, that made you feel better.
You have a wonderful 4th of July…..remember, don’t drink and drive.
#20. To: Gatlin (#16) Forced blood draws can only be done in felony DUI cases with a search warrant. Forced blood draws are done in only a very small number of cases. I've only seen one in my 20 years. He was driving intoxicated and he killed another motorist. Of course he was gonna refuse... it was his 4th DWI. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #21. To: GrandIsland (#3) I thought they were going to be saving/protecting us from terrorists and sharks this weekend. We can feed the terrorists to the sharks. That would be some excellent multitasking.
#22. To: nativist nationalist (#21) We can feed the terrorists to the sharks. That would be some excellent multitasking. Would be nice to use chunks of Muslims for chum... I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #23. To: nativist nationalist, GrandIsland (#21) We can feed the terrorists to the sharks. That would be some excellent multitasking. I'm surprised at you two. A bone could get stuck in the throat of a shark....and they could choke!! #Animal Cruelty
#24. To: Liberator (#23) I'm surprised at you two. A bone could get stuck in the throat of a shark....and they could choke!! #Animal Cruelty Well, maybe we can borrow Saddam's wood-chipper first. Feet first!
#25. To: Liberator (#23) I'm surprised at you two. A bone could get stuck in the throat of a shark....and they could choke!! #Animal Cruelty The only good shark is a dead shark. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #26. To: nativist nationalist (#24) Well, maybe we can borrow Saddam's wood-chipper first. Feet first! Oy. Mankind is...brutal. So brutal.
#27. To: GrandIsland (#25) The only good shark is a dead shark. Are we talking fish here, or those who lord over us in our bureaucratic chambers and dungeons? Never mind ;-)
#28. To: GrandIsland, Deckard (#18) More YELLA propaganda… It is as you say….more YELLA propaganda! Meanwhile, in police state USA, it is business as usual. Meanwhile, in the USA, there is no news in any media source that confirms a “4th Of July Nationwide No Refusal Checkpoints and Forced Blood Draws.” Only thing in the news are the routine checkpoints conducted each 4th of July. The locations and times of those are published in the local media….always have been. But wait, Deckard….you say we are supposed to believe a concocted story by this guy: Punk Rock Libertarians No way Jose!!!
#29. To: Gatlin (#28) Only thing in the news are the routine checkpoints conducted each 4th of July. The locations and times of those are published in the local media….always have been. How terrible... a police state where the police tell you IN ADVANCE where they will have a check point. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #30. To: GrandIsland (#29) How terrible... a police state where the police tell you IN ADVANCE where they will have a check point. lol That can't be squared with this The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized Maybe you honestly think that is the right thing to do. But you can' honestly say it squares with the requirements laid out in the constitution. To Rand Pauls credit I believe he would disagree with you.
#31. To: A K A Stone (#30) (Edited) Maybe you honestly think that is the right thing to do. But you can' honestly say it squares with the requirements laid out in the constitution. I don't believe stopping for 3 seconds on a public funded roadway and then driving though is unreasonable. They are only stopped longer and more intrusive if there is PC they are committing a crime. I won't agree with everything Rand stands for. I won't agree on everything any candidate stands for unless I run. I pick the lessor of how many evils that run. That's what we've done since the 2nd election. We pick the best of the lot... not the perfect. Problem is, sheeple don't pick best anymore. They choose because the color of their skin, if they have tits and special interests reasons. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #32. To: Gatlin, organized, routine scheduled crime, OK? (#28) Only thing in the news are the routine checkpoints conducted each 4th of July. Routine crime is no more legal than spontaneous crime. "Checkpoints" are a 4th amendment violation. Crimes by government officials are no less of a crime either. You've achieved independence from the rule of law. Enjoy your 4th of July crime spree!
#33. To: hondo68 (#32) (Edited) "Checkpoints" are a 4th amendment violation. PROVE THAT! You can't. Whether we like it or not, we cannot make that decision, only SCOTUS can. The Supreme Court has determined that DUI checkpoints do not constitute an unreasonable search and seizure.
#34. To: hondo68 (#32) Crimes by government officials are no less of a crime either. Duh? A crime committed by anyone is a crime, I agree.
#35. To: Gatlin, routine lawlessness, A K A Stone (#33) PROVE THAT! Stone already proved it by quoting the 4th in post #30. Wake UP!
#36. To: Gatlin (#33) (Edited) Whether we like it or not, we cannot make that decision, only SCOTUS can. I would really like to know where in the constitution the Supreme Court gets these powers. Could you quote it for me? Please? I'll marry a fag if you can find it for me in the constitution. Ok I won't marry a fag but you can't because it isn't there.
#37. To: Gatlin, hondo68, A K A Stone (#33) Whether we like it or not, we cannot make that decision, only SCOTUS can. http://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/searches/Edmond.htm “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.†#38. To: A K A Stone (#36) would really like to know where in the constitution the Supreme Court gets these powers. How do you suggest we deal with grey areas? Surely, a few second stop, on a public roadway, funded and maintained by the populace, isn't unreasonable... if it makes the populace safer? Who should decide what's "unreasonable"? You? Me? Deckard? I don't agree with all of the USSC's decisions... but like presidential candidates, nothing is perfect. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #39. To: hondo68 (#35) PROVE THAT!Quoting the Fourth Amendment does not prove: "Checkpoints are a 4th amendment violation." You can have an opinion….but your opinion is just that, your opinion. It is the Supreme Court’s ruling that is final on the matter. Excerpts From Supreme Court's Decision Upholding Sobriety Checkpoints ….is here
#40. To: A K A Stone (#36) Whether we like it or not, we cannot make that decision, only SCOTUS can. I never said it was in the Constitution, I said: “Whether we like it or not, we cannot make that decision, only SCOTUS can (decide if checkpoints are illegal).” Now, my turn. If SCOTUS doesn’t decide….then who does?
#41. To: CZ82, nolu chan (#37) Holding President Adams famously said "Mr Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it" regarding the Dept of Interior requiring Preachers to obtain a permit to evangelize on Indian reservations. None were ever busted for preaching to Indians without buying a permit, the SCOTUS decision was just ignored. The supremes gave themselves the power to determine constitutionality of legislation in Marbury v Madison. The SCOTUS was supposed to be for disputes between the States.
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