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The Left's War On Christians Title: Pentagon Urged To Boot Chaplains Who Oppose 'Gay' Marriage In the aftermath of the Supreme Court’s decision to redefine marriage in all 50 states, the Pentagon is now being urged to “cleanse itself” of chaplains who refuse to support same-sex marriage. Activist Mikey Weinstein, president of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, is demanding the U.S. military conduct a purge of chaplains who holds to the traditional teaching of homosexuality and marriage espoused by the first commander in chief, George Washington. Weinstein claims chaplains who are “maintaining the state of antagonism between their religion and the sexual/gender identities of service members” have no business serving in the military. “Nobody is arguing that these losers don’t have a right to their religious beliefs,” wrote Weinstein in an op-ed. “At this stage, the only honorable thing that these losers can do is to fold up their uniforms, turn in their papers, and get the hell out of the American military chaplaincy. If they are unwilling or too cowardly to do so, then the Department of Defense must expeditiously cleanse itself of the intolerant filth that insists on lingering in the ranks of our armed forces.” While Weinstein frequently calls for the court-martialing of military members who attempt to share their faith with others, he is now calling for an entire class of chaplains to be fired regardless of whether their beliefs affect their job performance or not. Brig. Gen. Doug Lee, now chairman of the executive committee for the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, said Weinstein’s views are extreme, showing a lack of understanding of a chaplain’s mission. “His comments are so vitriolic and dividing that they are hardly worth responding to. He seems to feel the need to push his conspiracy theory about certain chaplains in the military,” Lee told WND. “In addition, I don’t think he understands that the job of chaplain exists in a pluralistic military so that people have religious support, and to do away with a certain group of chaplains in its entirety is just ridiculous. “It’s like he never learned a thing in law school about the Constitution and about why chaplains exist.” Lee contends one cannot say chaplains have no right to oppose homosexuality based on the teachings of their faith while also supporting their right to stand by other tenets, such as refusing to marry those outside of their faith. “A chaplain cannot do something against his faith tenet such as marrying someone who has different religious beliefs if that is a tenet of their faith. They cannot be asked to do it, and they cannot be required to do it.” Lee told WND that those who think a chaplain must affirm or support the beliefs of everyone who comes for counseling or teaching misunderstand the purpose of chaplains. “The job of a chaplain is to provide religious support or perform religious support. The ‘provide’ part is to help a person find someone who can meet the individual’s spiritual needs. For example, I would not prepare a Passover meal for a Jewish service member, but I will direct them to a rabbi who can address that area. But when I do perform religious support, whether it be to teach, preach or counsel, I do so from my faith perspective.” For his part, Weinstein said he’s looking forward to ending the conservative influence in the military. “What will become of their once-ironclad dominance of fundamentalist Christian privilege within the Department of Defense?” said Weinstein. Lee insists chaplains don’t use their pulpit and position to call on service members to disobey orders regarding the treatment of “gay” service members. “For the vast majority of chaplains in the military, their faith groups believe that homosexuality is a sin and so they believe marriage is between a man and a woman as Christians have believed for thousands of years,” Lee explained to WND. “But the chaplains are saying that if someone comes to them for counseling with the homosexual partner they won’t ignore that person’s concerns, instead they will refer them to someone who can help with their specific needs because that’s part of providing religious support.” WND reported how the military tried to silence opposition to repeal of the Revolutionary War ban on homosexuals serving in the military during a lame-duck session of Congress, after tea-party voters gave Republicans control of the House of Representatives in 2010. In 2013, soldiers were given a training brief stating evangelical Christians were the No. 1 extremist threat to America, ahead of groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood, Ku Klux Klan, Nation of Islam, al-Qaida and Hamas. Catholicism and ultra-orthodox Judaism were also on the list of religious extremist organizations. As WND reported, Larry Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Colin Powell, told the Washington Post in 2013 the biggest problems faced by the military were sexual assault and what he described as proselytizing by Christians. Wilkerson’s comments were made to Sally Quinn in an interview that also featured former ambassador Joe Wilson and Weinstein as they were on their way to a meeting at the Pentagon. Wilson told Quinn that if a chaplain would proselytize, it would be a workplace violation. Weinstein went even further and said it was a “national security threat” and amounted to “spiritual rape.” He said the chaplain’s role is to minister to spiritual needs. Weinstein said military leaders need to understand “there is systematic misogyny, anti-Semitism and Islamophobia in the military.” “What the Pentagon needs to understand is that it is sedition and treason. It should be punished.” Read more at http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2015/July02/024.html#rAB6z7mffBjuVXm4.99 Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-78) not displayed.
Something for troubled couples will continue. It does not have to be effective, but command has to be able to say they took appropriate measures. They have to invent something and deem it appropriate. In the last few years couples have gone straight to marriage counselors on referral off post or on post. That's probably the direction they are going in now. Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2) #80. To: Liberator (#70) You really do have the mind of a 10 year old, don't you? No,I leave that to the people who believe in magic and miracles. "Christians" are NOT defined by their so-called "leaders" - LOL! Good one! Ever try to explain that theory to the Pope? which in your fevered mind are Jim Baker, Swaggert, Oral Roberts, and the Pope. You are so disengaged from understanding the very definition of "Christian," I think I understand it better than most cult members. If they understood it at all,most would stop going to the churches they attend. Nothing fevered or imaginative about it,those ARE some of the better known Christian leaders,even though they are also competitors. I do think Anal Roberts is currently taking a dirt nap,though. So are all the Popes with the exception of the latest guy with the pointy hat. I rest my case. Like I said -- you are monumentally disengaged from reality.
You just go ahead and keep ignoring all the people murdered by various religious cults,as well as all the local and major wars that were fought in the name of Gawd if that makes you feel better,if that is what helps you get through the day. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #81. To: Liberator (#71) This is when a flaming Pagan or Wiccan "chaplain" will step in. Please tell us about your vast experience with and personal knowledge of Pagan and Wiccan religious leaders and beliefs. Please feel free to leave out all the ones YOUR religion murdered and burned at the stake over the centuries if it makes you feel better because nobody should be held accountable for what they say when you set them on fire. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #82. To: redleghunter (#73) What about those chaplain funded 'marriage retreats' and 'marriage encounters' weekends? Were those interdenominational with Protestant Chaplains working with Protestant couples,Catholics with Catholic couple,Jews working with Jewish couples,etc,etc,etc? I really don't see how they would have worked very well if that had not been the case. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #83. To: nolu chan (#74) This entails an assumption that there will be such chaplains, and in sufficient quantity. AFAIK the US military is under no obligation to fulfill any sort of quota for their Chaplain Corps,and from THEIR POV a Jewish,Catholic,Protestant,Muslim,Buddist,or whatever Chaplain could serve as well as a Wiccian or Pagan Chaplain for general purposes. And given that this is an all-volunteer military today,no military member has any justification for throwing a hissy fit if he or she doesn't get the Chaplain of their Choice. Nobody forced them to enlist. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #84. To: sneakypete (#81) Please tell us about your vast experience... Why humor you further? You already have all the answers you need. /Staff of Swiss Psychiatrists Please feel free to leave out all the ones YOUR religion murdered and burned at the stake over the centuries if it makes you feel better because nobody should be held accountable for what they say when you set them on fire. It's as though I'm on one planet (Earth), and you're on another (PLUTO.) LOVE the dopey visit back into your time-machine, the lack of context as it relates to the original subject, AND vast, select self-serving revisionist history to boot. But it's par for the course. YOUR insane course. Let's just call this post of yours, 'Sneakypete's Mount Everest of Irrelevance, Stupidity and Ignorance'.
#85. To: sneakypete (#80) (Edited) You just go ahead and keep ignoring all the people murdered by various religious cults,as well as all the local and major wars that were fought in the name of Gawd if that makes you feel better,if that is what helps you get through the day. HUH?? Lol.. Tell us what your dumb-azz rants have to do with the subject at hand -- the persecution IN AMERICA of Fundamental Christian Chaplains, the hijacking of the military and government by subversives, AND what it means for America. NOT in the year 1515 but in the year 2015. I think I understand it [definition of Christian] better than most cult members. You don't even know the definition of "atheist." OR worst than that, "insanity." CLUE: Mirror.
#86. To: Liberator (#84) Let's just call this post of yours, 'Sneakypete's Mount Everest of Irrelevance, Stupidity and Ignorance'. Too full of uncomfortable truths,huh? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #87. To: Liberator (#85) You don't even know the definition of "atheist." One of us doesn't,and it ain't me. As I have stated before,I am not a member of ANY organized religion,including atheism. OR worst than that, "insanity." People who see visions and believe in miracles and magic are considered to be insane. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #88. To: sneakypete (#83) AFAIK the US military is under no obligation to fulfill any sort of quota for their Chaplain Corps,and from THEIR POV a Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Buddist, or whatever Chaplain could serve as well as a Wiccian or Pagan Chaplain for general purposes. Counseling troubled same-sex married couples is the specific problem I have cited. A Bible or Quran thumping chaplain may not be able to provide such counseling or be compelled to do so. The problem is not a gay couple hissy fit, but the military finding enough suitable chaplains to fill the need if the same-sex married military population grows. They can encounter chaplains recusing themselves. Military doctors cannot be required to perform an abortion. Very few military abortions are performed.
#89. To: Liberator, redleghunter (#71) Ummm I don't think there are pagan/wiccan chaplains in the military, the last one that I heard of got the boot about 8-10 years ago... “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.†#90. To: nolu chan (#88) Counseling troubled same-sex married couples is the specific problem I have cited. They can do it,which is part of the job they swore an oath to do,or they can resign their commissions. A Bible or Quran thumping chaplain may not be able to provide such counseling Of course they can. It's their duty to do so. Their jobs are not about "me",they are about the soldiers,sailors,airmen,or Marines they are sworn to serve.
The problem is not a gay couple hissy fit, but the military finding enough suitable chaplains to fill the need if the same-sex married military population grows. No,the real problem is allowing politically correct brain farts get in the way of the national defense. The Generals could see this coming down the road and were no doubt oppposed to it,but in the US the Generals are not in charge of the military. Whatever PC dumbass that is sitting in the WH can tell them to start wearing French Maid dresses,and all they can legally do is say "Yes Sir!" and hope it explodes in the media. Frankly this should have never gotten this far. Neither should women serving in submarines or remote front line outposts with men. It's just asking for trouble where there MUST be unity. BTW,Chaplins are supposed to be primarily in the soul-saving business,not the business of judging the value of people who come to them for help or trying to convert them to their faiths. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #91. To: CZ82, liberator (#89) Ummm I don't think there are pagan/wiccan chaplains in the military, the last one that I heard of got the boot about 8-10 years ago... Yes he was booted. Not so much because he was wiccan but that he was sponsored as a Pentecostal chaplain and then turned wiccan. Thus he lost his 'sponsorship' of the denomination and when that happens the Army will boot the chaplain. Don't think there are any other wiccan chaplains. The post chaplains usually give in to their demands of funds for their witchcraft ceremonies. But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.--1 Corinthians 15:20-21 #92. To: sneakypete (#49) You are correct in your statements.
#93. To: sneakypete (#90)
A Bible or Quran thumping chaplain may not be able to provide such counseling
Of course they can. It's their duty to do so. Their jobs are not about "me",they are about the soldiers,sailors,airmen,or Marines they are sworn to serve. I intended not be able to in a literal sense. The chaplain may be unable to counsel how to best maintain a loving gay marriage when his own religious belief prevents him from discussing gay marriage in an approving manner. A chaplain might find it difficult to counsel them on gay sex life and marital obligations. The couple is not there to be comforted due to the death of a relative, a neutral subject. They are there for counseling regarding a relationship the chaplain's religion condemns. The chaplain my opt out of engaging in certain discussion to the point where his best good faith effort cannot meet their needs. It is not the duty of the chaplain to engage in anything which is repugnant to his own religious beliefs, just as it is not the duty of a military doctor to perform an abortion if that is repugnant to his religious beliefs. The specific situation has not arisen before, so it is difficult to say what problems will be encountered, but the interaction is likely to be very awkward. There will almost certainly be a clash between chaplains and the military if orders are given and they feel unable to comply. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/25/catholic-military-chaplains-gay_n_3989043.html
Catholic Military Chaplains Barred From From Performing Gay Weddings, Funerals, Counseling http://outservemag.com/2012/03/military-chaplains-their-gays/ Outserve, March 2012 [excerpt]
The armed services have traditionally reflected the society they are sworn to defend. However, with the elimination of the draft, the military has moved to the political and cultural right, and so has the military chaplaincy. Today, partially as a result of a determined effort by some evangelical groups, chaplains endorsed by socially conservative denominations are in the majority within the military. Consequently, they exerted a significant and negative influence in the long and laborious journey to repeal DADT.
#94. To: Liberator, ALL (#50) “As long as a city is encircled with walls all around,” wrote John Chrysostom, “it mocks its besiegers and remains in perfect safety. But once a breach is made in the wall, no larger than a gate, the circuit is no more use to it, though all the rest stands safe.” It is the same, he says, in the church: “As long as the nimble wits and the wisdom of the shepherd encompass it like a wall all around, all the enemy’s devices end in his own shame and ridicule, and the inhabitants remain unharmed; but when someone manages to break down a part of this defense, even though he fails to destroy it all, from that moment practically the whole city is ruined through that one part.” John Chrysostom on Culture Warsa And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined* in a furnace of clay, purified seven times. Psalm 12:6 #95. To: nolu chan (#93) The chaplain may be unable to counsel how to best maintain a loving gay marriage when his own religious belief prevents him from discussing gay marriage in an approving manner. I doubt the issues are any different since they are all human. It's going to be about money,power and control,not being home enough,being home too much,not enough sex,too much sex,jealousy,and relatives. Some things are universal. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #96. To: redleghunter, CZ82, nolu chan, Ferret Mike (#91) ("Ummm I don't think there are pagan/wiccan chaplains in the military, the last one that I heard of got the boot about 8-10 years ago...") So the Wiccan lied about his intent. Gee, what a surprise. From this day forward we can expect just about any cult (in the name of "equal protection/rights") to be humored. Never mind military and civilian law and protocol were always maintained accordingly. ALL this "social justice" nonsense adopting civilian criteria comes straight from the House of Ill Repute, Sodom, DC.
#97. To: Liberator (#96) Dedicated to all the Wiccans. Enjoy the trip.
#98. To: GarySpFC, redleghunter, CZ82, nolu chan (#94) As long as a city is encircled with walls all around,” wrote John Chrysostom, “it mocks its besiegers and remains in perfect safety. But once a breach is made in the wall, no larger than a gate, the circuit is no more use to it, though all the rest stands safe.” Wisdom and observations well worth repeating, Gary. Thanks. America's gates were severely compromised in 1973; Today the city walls of our nation, our church of righteousness and commitment to the principles of good, honor, and virtue have been breached by the enemy within, collapsed and carnage on display as seen though this Soviet lens, Berlin, 1945. Only THEN will these perverse subversives be happy. In my mind, the above photo presents the fantasy and goal of the the anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-American principle.
#99. To: A K A Stone (#97) (Edited) Twisted Sister. A Cartoon character "band" that prayed upon adolescent stupidity and ignorance. Musically, and every way possible Dee Snider and they were an embarrassment to the eye, to the ear, and to the soul.
#100. To: redleghunter, Liberator, nolu chan (#91) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/18/AR2007021801396.html This is what I found on the guy. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.†#101. To: Liberator, redleghunter, LFs resident Leftards (#98) Only THEN will these perverse subversives be happy. The only way they will ever be happy (and this might be somewhat of a stretch since I don't think they ever can be happy, assholes never are) is if they defeat you so totally that you eventually agree with their point of view, I.E. become one of them!!! “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.†#102. To: sneakypete (#95)
Catholic Military Chaplains Barred From From Performing Gay Weddings, Funerals, Counseling There are 234 priests serving as active duty chaplains in the Army, Air Force and Navy for about 275,000 Catholic military personnel. About 25 percent of all personnel in the armed forces are Catholic, and eight percent of military chaplains are Catholic. Southern Baptists have nearly 1,500 endorsed chaplains serving in the U.S. military, more than any other denomination or faith group. 234 priests being 8% of military chaplains infers the total of chaplains is ~2,925. The article infers that a requirement to engage in counseling same-sex marriage partners would result in the decertification of 1,500 Southern Baptists and 234 Roman Catholics, and presumably some unknown quantity of Christian fundamentalists, Jews and Muslims. A loss of 1,734 Baptist/Catholic chaplains of 2,925 total would be 59% of all chaplains. This is not a choice made by the individual chaplain. Their religious group asserted it would withdraw its endorsement causing the chaplain to be ineligible for the military chaplain corps. Would a chaplain corps that 100% supports gay marriage be able to survive in the military?
#103. To: redleghunter (#91) FYI. I was not aware of this until last night. Unless there is a policy change, it appears Catholic and Southern Baptist chaplains are barred from counseling same-sex couples since a 2013 military archdiocese statement of guidance, and the Southern Baptist Convention has acted similarly. That would affect over half the chaplain corps. Catholic Military Chaplains Barred From From Performing Gay Weddings, Funerals, Counseling [HuffPo Article] http://www.milarch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=dwJXKgOUJiIaG&b=6536793&ct=13291927¬oc=1 CATHOLIC STATEMENT OF GUIDANCE
Renewed Fidelity in Favor of Evangelization
#104. To: redleghunter, ALL (#91) Following the 2009 Fort Hood shooting, Weinstein suggested that proselytizing by "fundamentalist Christians" may have created a hostile environment that contributed to the psychological pressure on Major Nidal Malik Hasan. Hasan reportedly claimed that he had faced harassing insults related to his Arab ethnic background and Islamic faith.[11][12][13] In November 2009, the American Family Association issued the statement "No More Muslims in the US Military", which explicitly stated that Muslim military enlistees be barred from military service in the United States armed forces on the grounds that "...just as Christians are taught to imitate the life of Christ, so Muslims are taught to imitate the Prophet in all things. Yesterday, Nidal Malik Hasan was simply being a good Muslim." [14] MRFF founder and president Mikey Weinstein 's denunciation of the AFA position as "bigoted, racist, [and] vile" was featured prominently by Hatewatch, the official blog of the Southern Poverty Law Center civil rights organization.[15]. Wikipedia And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined* in a furnace of clay, purified seven times. Psalm 12:6 #105. To: GarySpFC, redleghunter (#104) Mikey W has declared war on Christians. And thus should be considered a domestic enemy combatant/terrorist.
#106. To: CZ82, redleghunter, nolu chan (#100) I can see it from a thousand miles away. BLINDFOLDED. This guy was a lying, scheming homofascist from Minute One.
#107. To: CZ82, redleghunter, LFs resident Leftards (#101) (Edited) The only way they will ever be happy (and this might be somewhat of a stretch since I don't think they ever can be happy, assholes never are) is if they defeat you so totally that you eventually agree with their point of view, I.E. become one of them!!! LOL...What a way with words. Yes, what makes these soul-defective self-loathing snakes "happy" is a shared the misery and death. In both this life as well as the next. They'll hi-five you as you both plunge into the depths of hell.
#108. To: Liberator, LFs resident Leftards (#107) Yes, what makes these soul-defective self-loathing snakes "happy" is a shared the misery and death. I went back and look at the posts on this thread and only 2 of them made any comments on this subject, and that was early on. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.†#109. To: nolu chan (#102) This is not a choice made by the individual chaplain. Their religious group asserted it would withdraw its endorsement causing the chaplain to be ineligible for the military chaplain corps. Thank you for clearing that up for me. Would a chaplain corps that 100% supports gay marriage be able to survive in the military? Of course. At least as far as the military is concerned. Same as if 100 % of the Chaplains serving did NOT support homosexual marriages (I HATE the term "gay" because by implication if homosexuals are happy,heterosexuals are unhappy) and the military told them to not marry homosexual military members. The US military does not make policy. They follow orders. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #110. To: Liberator (#105) Mikey W has declared war on Christians. Correction. He has declared war on AMERICA. INCLUDING Christians. And thus should be considered a domestic enemy combatant/terrorist. Works for me. He is also a Israeli citizen,so we should just dump his ass out with bag and baggage at an Israeli airport,and tell him he will be shot on sight if he comes back to America. Let Israel deal with him and see how much he likes THAT. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #111. To: CZ82, Liberator, tomder55, GarySpFc (#101) The only way they will ever be happy (and this might be somewhat of a stretch since I don't think they ever can be happy, assholes never are) is if they defeat you so totally that you eventually agree with their point of view, I.E. become one of them!!! Indeed. Yes they want full "conversion." That's the difference between an authoritarian and a totalitarian. The former wants you to respect his power. The latter wants you to become like them. But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.--1 Corinthians 15:20-21 #112. To: nolu chan (#103) Seems the bishop was quite thorough. I even see they give guidance on lay Catholic commanders. But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.--1 Corinthians 15:20-21 #113. To: GarySpFC (#104) AFA was 100% correct and Weinstein, once again was wrong. But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.--1 Corinthians 15:20-21 #114. To: Liberator, A K A Stone, CZ82 (#107) Indoctrination starts in school. Chick has it pegged. Funny thing? The kid knows what's going on. But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.--1 Corinthians 15:20-21 #115. To: redleghunter (#114)
Did you see the straight flag?
#116. To: A K A Stone (#115) Nice But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.--1 Corinthians 15:20-21 #117. To: A K A Stone (#115) Did you see the straight flag? Yes, like it so much it is now a tagline.
#118. To: Liberator (#96) Wiccan people are like any other group of people. There are everything from scoundrels to saints in their ranks. I started my journey back to Christianity after I nearly died in a fall back in 1979 where I neatly died. I had an out of body experiance, and my adopted daughter has been patiently working on me until I reached the point I had a restoration of faith and did a reconciliation with a catholic priest. My faith only has grown since then. I imagine there are some of you who are too cynical to buy this, but that is OK. My love for and faith in Jesus does not require your belief or acceptance. ![]() Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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