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Published: Jul 1, 2015
Author: sneakypete
Post Date: 2015-07-01 22:49:50 by sneakypete
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Anybody else ever heard of such a critter? There is a old guy I see at the local Hardees fairly often that started showing up wearing one of those blue ball caps you see that are sold that have stuff like "VN Vet","Korean War vet",USN Vet",etc,etc,etc.
The difference is his says "Cold War Veteran" on it,and he has a bunch of badges and other crap pinned on it. I asked him about it the first time I saw it,and he says he wears it because he was a veteran of the Cold War. Come to find out he was in the Coast Guard Reserve so he could avoid the draft and get a government job.
I don't really know if I should laugh or be mad. IMHO,pretty much everyone alive on the planet prior to 1990 is a "Cold War Veteran",including the children born who were still infants when it ended.
I probably should have asked him what the badges stood for,and if one was for syncronized swimming,but just decided to leave it alone
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Anyone else seen one of those hats?
No, I haven't. It is a stretch.
#2. To: sneakypete (#0) (Edited)
Click here for Cold War Veteran Caps and Patches
Cold War Recognition Certificate
#3. To: Gatlin (#2) (Edited)
Thanks,that's the hat.
Have any idea what the ribbons are supposed to signify?
One looks like the National Defense Service Ribbon,but I have no idea what the other one is.
Can you imagine anyone's life being so lame they brag about having a National Defense Service Ribbon?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#4. To: Gatlin (#2)
We go one of you, too, on the job training, giving your ALL for America!
#5. To: Gatlin (#2)
Cold War Recognition CertificateFrom Wiki: The Cold War Recognition Certificate is a recognition certificate awarded by the Secretary of Defense to all U.S. Armed Forces personnel and qualified federal government civilian personnel who faithfully and honorably served the United States anytime during the Cold War era, which is defined as September 2, 1945 to December 26, 1991.[1][2] Anyone who served in the military or the Federal Government during this period is authorized to receive the certificate.
I'll be damned! Never heard of such a thing.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#6. To: sneakypete (#5) (Edited)
I hadn't either! I had to look it up when I read your post.
#7. To: buckeroo, Liberator (#4)
Isn't that yukkie and harrowup with him?? Must of been how they met..
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.â€
#8. To: sneakypete (#0)
Leave him be Pete, he is living in a dream world in which he actually served and didn't run and hide.
#9. To: BobCeleste (#8) (Edited)
Leave him be Pete, he is living in a dream world in which he actually served and didn't run and hide.
I'm not bothering him. In fact,the truth is I feel sorry for him. His life must be a pathetic living hell if he is that desperate for attention.
The guy I am going to zero in on if I spot him again is a guy that wears a red beret like modern paratrooperes with a mini-CIB on it with a star who claims he was with the 187th RCT in Korea,and the 82nd in VN.
I was distracted when I met him,but something seemed wrong about his story. Truthfully,I think the red beret is what threw me off. I was trying to figure out why a guy that had never worn a red beret before he retired is suddenly wearing one and why he would wear one,when what I should have been focusing on was the FACT that if he had been with the 187th in the Korean War,he would have to be at LEAST 81 years old. He looked closer to 71 years old to me. I have never seen anyone 81 years old that gets around like he does,and damn few that were 71 years old that seemed to be that agile and healthy.
He said he owns a art gallery,and that also made me suspiscious. I can see someone into art thinking it would be stylish to wear a red beret with a bunch of doo-dahs pinned to it.
BTW,I knew a bunch of 187th vets from the Korean War when I was in the army,and every damn one of them is dead now. Most have been dead for years. Being a career infantry paratrooper is not conducive to living a long and healthy life. Woundw and injuries you receive when you are young have a tendency to shorten your life when you get older. Not to mention the physically demanding life of working hard,not sleeping enough,sleeping out in the rain and swow,etc,etc,etc.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#10. To: sneakypete (#9)
I knew a bunch of 187th vets from the Korean War when I was in the army,and every damn one of them is dead now. Most have been dead for years. Being a career infantry paratrooper is not conducive to living a long and healthy life.
My platoon Sgt during jump school in the summer of '55 had been with the 187th in Korea. If memory serves, Sgt Hansen was about 23 at that time, (I was 18) and I wouldn't doubt he's still alive at 83. The sonsabitch was too mean to die early.
#11. To: tpaine (#10)
My platoon Sgt during jump school in the summer of '55 had been with the 187th in Korea. If memory serves, Sgt Hansen was about 23 at that time, (I was 18) and I wouldn't doubt he's still alive at 83. The sonsabitch was too mean to die early.
While nobody that ever met him considered him to be anything less than a gentleman,Medal of Honor Winner from the Korean War Ola Mize died about a year ago,and he was a serious health food and exercise nut. He could still fit into the tailored uniforms he was wearing in the 60's when he died.
He was also one seriously tough and brave individual that had been wounded several times,and was one of the 20 year old Master Sgts during the Korean War before he even got the MoH.
I have never met anyone in my life that I admired more than this man.
www.nytimes.com/2014/03/1...hero-dies-at-82.html?_r=0
BTW,the last 15-20 North Koreans he killed on that hill before the relief force got to him were killed with an entrencing tool. He was out of ammunition and the only man left on the hill able to move under his own power,so he decided to surrender rather than escape and evade because he knew his wouned men would need someone to take care of them as POW's. He went berserk after he surrendered when hs saw the NK's start to bayonet the wounded as they lay in their sleeping bags,grabbed an entrenching tool,and starting killing everything in sight on the hill that wasn't wearing a US uniform. He flat ass chased armed NK soldiers off that hill by himself using a shovel.
He really was a nice mild-mannered guy,but never make the mistake of trying to harm his wounded!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#12. To: sneakypete, Gatlin (#3)
One looks like the National Defense Service Ribbon,but I have no idea what the other one is.
The second ribbon appears to go with the Cold War Medal.
Cold War Medal
http://www.amervets.com/replacement/cold.htm#isr
The Cold War Medal supplements the official Cold War Era Certificate which is authorized to all active, Reserve, Guard and former military personnel of all Service Branches and all Nations allied in the Cold War against the Soviet Bloc who's military service or obligation was served between 26 September 1945 under President Harry S. Truman to 31 December 1991 under President George H.W. Bush. Members of the Merchant Marine must possess a DD-214 issued by the United States Coast Guard. Although the Cold War Medal may not be worn on the uniform of active duty military personnel, it may be worn on the uniform of all former service personnel during military Holiday's and celebratory occasions. The Cold War Medal may be displayed in shadow boxes. See the Order of Precedence for wear and display protocol.
#13. To: sneakypete, Gatlin (#3)
Can you imagine anyone's life being so lame they brag about having a National Defense Service Ribbon?
In the Navy we called it the Geedunk Award for being first in line at the geedunk three days in row.
#14. To: nolu chan (#12)
The second ribbon appears to go with the Cold War Medal.
I didn't know there was such a thing.
Maybe I should request one from the feral gubbermint to hang on my mother's grave? She was a Cold War veteran too,and would probably appreciate the recognition if she were able to speak.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#15. To: nolu chan (#13)
Can you imagine anyone's life being so lame they brag about having a National Defense Service Ribbon?In the Navy we called it the Geedunk Award for being first in line at the geedunk three days in row.
Everyone in basic training literally qualifies to wear one the day they graduate from basic.
They ain't what you would call rare or hard to earn.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#16. To: sneakypete (#11)
He was also one seriously tough and brave individual that had been wounded several times,and was one of the 20 year old Master Sgts during the Korean War before he even got the MoH.I have never met anyone in my life that I admired more than this man.
We had a LOT of seriously tough old soldiers in the 503 PIR of the 11th. (The 11th rotated to southern Germany in Jan '56, the best duty in the world at that time)
Our regimental Sgt Major had five combat jump stars, from Normandy to Korea. Hellofa soldier, but I forget his name...
#17. To: sneakypete, nolu chan (#15)
Everyone in basic training literally qualifies to wear one the day they graduate from basic.
I found out yesterday that the Air Force now hands out a ribbon for completing basic training.
#18. To: tpaine (#16) (Edited)
(The 11th rotated to southern Germany in Jan '56, the best duty in the world at that time)
They later became the 1st Cav,and went to VN. Probably not the best duty in the world.
BTW,did you know a Corporal in the 11th in the mid to late 50's named Robert Howard?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#19. To: Gatlin (#17)
I found out yesterday that the Air Force now hands out a ribbon for completing basic training.
I suspect the army does now,too. Back when I was working with the SWC in the 90's I would see NCO's and Officers wearing whole rows of ribbons that I didn't recogonize.
I even saw the leg privates we used as guerrillas during Robin Sage get actual medal awards and ribbons for being the "outstanding guerilla trainee" or some such shit. I was amazed at all the stuff people who had never heard a shot fired were wearing.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#20. To: Gatlin (#2)
Wow, how friggin embarrassing would it be to wear crap like that?
#21. To: sneakypete (#14)
I didn't know there was such a thing.Maybe I should request one from the feral gubbermint to hang on my mother's grave?
I didn't know about it either. I just checked all the ribbons the Navy offered and found it.
That thing is even more embarrassing than the geedunk award. Have war, be draft eligible, get civilian job in defense, avoid draft, get a medal. Maybe Cheney could get one of those with four stars.
#22. To: sneakypete (#18)
did you know a Corporal in the 11th in the mid to late 50's named Robert Howard?
Name sounded real familiar, tell I realised we had a dipshit class president in high school named that.... I think he dodged the draft too....
#23. To: tpaine (#22)
Name sounded real familiar, tell I realised we had a dipshit class president in high school named that.... I think he dodged the draft too....
This one went on to be put in for a MoH in VN on THREE separate occasions in a 1 year period in VN. He got it the 3rd time. He was a SSG E-6 at the time.
He retired as a full Colonel and died a couple of years ago.
He was from Alabama,and his father and his uncles were paratroopers in WW-2.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#24. To: Gatlin, sneakypete (#17)
I found out yesterday that the Air Force now hands out a ribbon for completing basic training.
It probably that NatDef award.
The National Defense Service Medal is awarded to anyone with any active duty service during a designated time of national emergency. We started a new and still ongoing designated period of emergency on 9/11/2001. Take the oath of enlistment and get a medal.
Korean War – June 27, 1950 – July 27, 1954
Vietnam War – January 1, 1961 – August 14, 1974
Persian Gulf War – August 2, 1990 – November 30, 1995
Global War on Terrorism – September 11, 2001 – present day
Some newer awards are the GWOT service medal, and the Military Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War_Victory_Medal
The Cold War Victory Medal is both an official medal of the National Guard and an unofficial military medal of the United States. It is awarded by the States of Louisiana and Texas, and in ribbon form only by the State of Alaska. In the medal's unofficial capacity it can be purchased, but not worn in uniform. It may be worn by any member of the United States military, or civilian employees of the federal government, who served in their positions honorably during the years of the Cold War, specifically September 2, 1945 to December 26, 1991.
#25. To: nolu chan, sneakypete (#24)
Air Force Training Ribbon
The Air Force Training Ribbon is the lowest military award of the United States Air Force, ranking only above foreign military awards.
The Air Force Training Ribbon was authorized by the Chief of Staff, U.S. Air Force on October 12, 1980. It is awarded to U.S. Air Force service members on completion of initial accession training after August 14, 1974. Initial accession training in USAF is defined as Basic Military Training (BMT) for enlisted personnel, Basic Cadet Training (BCT) at theUnited States Air Force Academy(USAFA), or commissioning throughAir Force ROTC (AFROTC), Officer Training School (OTS) or other specialized USAF officer accession programs.[2]
In December 1986, the criteria expanded and authorized the ribbon to anyone who was on active duty in December 1986, regardless of when they completed initial accession training. The ribbon was designed by the Institute of Heraldry. The ribbon has a wide center stripe of red, flanked on either side by a wide stripe of dark blue and a narrow yellow stripe edged by a narrow dark blue stripe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Training_Ribbon
Basic Training Honor Graduate Ribbon
The Air Force Basic Military Training Honor Graduate Ribbonwas established in April 1976 by order of the Air Force Chief of Staff, GeneralDavid Charles Jones. The ribbon is awarded to graduates of Air Force basic training who have obtained an honor graduate designation and demonstrate excellence in all areas of academic and military training.[4]
An airman must achieve at least a 90% on his/her physical fitness level during the final AFBMT physical fitness test. The AFBMT physical fitness test has four parts: 1.5-mile run time (60%), number of sit ups in a minute (10%), number of push ups in a minute (10%), and waist measurement (20%). If the trainee fails to reach a score of at least 90%, the airman is ineligible no matter how well he or she performed in other areas of basic training. Additionally, the airman must average over a 90 percent on all the written examinations, and never fail a graded inspection (graded inspections are conducted randomly after week #3). As well, the airman must never receive a negative mark in a written evaluation. Current regulations limit the number of selectees to no more than ten percent of the flight.
The Air Force Basic Military Training Honor Graduate Ribbon is a one time award and may not be presented retroactively. Those awarded are entitled to wear the Air Force Basic Training Honor Graduate Ribbon for the rest of their Air Force career.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Training_Honor_Graduate_Ribbon
#26. To: Gatlin (#25)
The ribbon was designed by the Institute of Heraldry.
I guess they had to do something to justify their pay checks.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
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