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Title: Disabled Vet Faces Life In Prison for Treating PTSD with Pot
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Prison Planet
URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/disable ... or-treating-ptsd-with-pot.html
Published: Jul 1, 2015
Author: Adan Salazar
Post Date: 2015-07-01 19:49:14 by Deckard
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Views: 11425
Comments: 73
A marine corps veteran faces life in prison for cultivating marijuana plants while he lived in Oklahoma, plants which he relied on to treat severe post-traumatic stress disorder.
Last year, police raided the home of 33-year-old Kristoffer Lewandowski, a military father of three who was honorably discharged for medical reasons after serving multiple tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Kristoffer’s wife Whitney reveals her husband, fearing liver damage from consuming a massive amount of pharmaceutical drugs, was successfully transitioning to marijuana as a preferred treatment.
“He was just using it… He couldn’t get any, and, of course, we’re a military family, we’re very poor, we couldn’t afford to buy it anyway,” Kristoffer’s wife, Whitney told TruthInMedia.com. “So he was just growing it for himself. He was on his way out of the military and just wanted to see if it would help with [his mental health issues].”
“He was taking 13 pills a day, and it was just killing his liver,” she said. “He was having all these issues with his body and he just wanted to try something more natural to just see if he could do without that many pills a day,” Whitney said, adding the treatments were “absolutely effective.”
Police were summoned to Lewandowski’s Geronimo residence in June 2014 after neighbors reported him suffering a PTSD episode. Amid the emotional breakdown, Whitney brought their three children to the neighbor’s house in attempts to “diffuse the situation.”
Rather than provide the former soldier immediate medical attention, police proceeded to conduct a search of Lewandowski’s home for drugs, locating six marijuana plants.
“The kind of help he got was being tossed in jail,” Whitney expressed.
Police charged Kristoffer with felony marijuana cultivation, possession of drug paraphernalia and domestic violence, a charge which Whitney admits to have filed against her husband at the behest of officers.
The former felony charge carries a posssible fine of $25,000 and anywhere from 20 years to life in prison, according to Oklahoma statutes.
Whitney says police at the time twisted her arm into pressing charges against her husband, threatening her with felony charges, as well as confiscation of their children by Child Protective Services.
“They’re trying to use me as a victim and to make it look worse on his case,” Whitney insists. “My husband has absolutely never laid his hands on me ever. He is not an abusive man, ever… quite the opposite. He is extremely doting.”
Later that year in October, after posting a $20,000 bail, Lewandowski decided it was time to move his family back to California, where he legally obtained a medical marijuana prescription.
Last month on June 16, undercover police nabbed Kristoffer as he picked his children up from pre-school in a dramatic, guns-drawn arrest after he failed to appear at a court hearing.
“To be picked up like that, we’re all blown away,” Whitney described. “Especially in a pre-school parking lot where all my kids’ friends are, their parents are. Everyone’s witnessing this, and it was horrifying.”
TruthInMedia.com reports, “Kristoffer Lewandowski currently remains in police custody in California awaiting extradition to Oklahoma where he will face his charges.”
A Change.org petition signed by over 12 thousand people asks for Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin to pardon Kristoffer.
Whitney has also set up a GoFundMe page to raise donations for legal fees, as well as a Facebook page to raise awareness. (4 images)
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"Later that year in October, after posting a $20,000 bail, Lewandowski decided it was time to move his family back to California"
That's one way to put it.
Another way would be that jumped bail, fled to California, and failed to appear in Oklahoma court.
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
" Disabled Vet Faces Life In Prison for Treating PTSD with Pot "
Sad story, with a sad ending.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
#3. To: misterwhite (#1)
The former felony charge carries a posssible fine of $25,000 and anywhere from 20 years to life in prison, according to Oklahoma statutes.
That is WAAAAY too much time for a guy growing 6 plants in his house.
6 plants is also too many plants for personal use. Chances are he was going sell the excess to friends for a little extra money. That damn sure doesn't make him a major dealer or "drug kingpin" that deserves 20 to life in prison,though.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#4. To: misterwhite (#1)
Another way would be that jumped bail, fled to California, and failed to appear in Oklahoma court.
I think if I were his lawyer I would be taking a close look at the extradition paperwork. I have a hard time believing Ca would go along with having out of state cops come in to arrest one of their citizens over a minor pot bust. Especially a combat vet with PTSD.
If the paperwork was "fudged" in any way,he's going to walk. Maybe even sue Oklahoma for false arrest.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#5. To: misterwhite (#1)
Another way would be that jumped bail, fled to California, and failed to appear in Oklahoma court.
Let's clear the air,here.
Do YOU think 20 to life is appropriate for possession of 6 pot plants?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#6. To: sneakypete (#4)
I think if I were his lawyer I would be taking a close look at the extradition paperwork. I have a hard time believing Ca would go along with having out of state cops come in to arrest one of their citizens over a minor pot bust. Especially a combat vet with PTSD
All it takes to qualify for a "fugitive from justice" is that the alledged crime the fugitive is wanted for in another state, is a crime in the state he's found in. It's up to the issuing warrant DA's office to make the choice and pay to extradite. The clock starts ticking when the warrant issuing agency is notified that the alledged shitbird has been caught.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#7. To: GrandIsland (#6) (Edited)
alledged shitbird
Shut your dick-holster, drug war goon.
Hypocrite too - what about your MMA hero busted for pot?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.†- Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#8. To: GrandIsland (#6)
All it takes to qualify for a "fugitive from justice" is that the alledged crime the fugitive is wanted for in another state, is a crime in the state he's found in.
That doesn't mean it will be issued,or that the OK police will have permission to enter California to make the arrest.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#9. To: misterwhite, GrandIsland, drug warrior scum, Gatlin (#4)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.†- Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#10. To: Deckard (#7)
He was charged for felony leaving the scene of an injury accident. No drug charges. He lost his title, a multi million dollar Reebok contract and a multi million dollar payday fight, scheduled for last month.
All because he couldn't stay away from your agenda... Drugs. He deserves what he got.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#11. To: Deckard (#7)
Shut your dick-holster, drug war goon.
Even when you went to school, you had no class. lol
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#12. To: sneakypete (#3)
" 6 plants is also too many plants for personal use. "
Well, if for personal use with his "PTSD", how long would 6 plants last him?
Si vis pacem, para bellum
#13. To: sneakypete (#8)
That doesn't mean it will be issued,or that the OK police will have permission to enter California to make the arrest.
He' won't fight extradition, if the issuing agency decides to extradite. Most don't.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#14. To: Stoner (#12)
6 plants is also too many plants for personal use. "Well, if for personal use with his "PTSD", how long would 6 plants last him?
Beats me. Too many variables,including the potency of the pot,how big the plant grows before he harvests it,how often he smokes it each day,and even his personal tolerance.
Just take my word for it that 6 plants is too much if they are over a few inches high. I could see him growing multiple plants in case some didn't come up or died before maturity,but 6 mature plants is a BUNCH of weed for one person to smoke.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#15. To: Stoner (#12)
Well, if for personal use with his "PTSD", how long would 6 plants last him?
BTW,in MY opinion,PTSD is one of the biggest scams to ever come down the road. VA shrinks will diagnose a mop bucket as having PTSD because if they don't have patients they don't have jobs,and the more patients they have the larger the little empire they can carve out in the VA system.
I a friends with one guy that the VA gave PTSD benefits to (30 percent in his case,IIRC) because he had a nervous breakdown while serving in Germany because a lot of the other telephone repairmen in his unit were getting transferred to VN,and he was afraid of going to VN. He told me this himself,and it happened in 1969.
Think about that for a minute. Post Dramatic Stress Syndrome for IMAGINING he MIGHT get transferred to VN,and the closest he ever got to VN was Germany.
That right there should tell you a lot about PTSD awards.
Hell,the VA even gave ME 30 percent for PTSD and I insisted then and still insist today that I don't and never did suffer from it. Frankly,I don't personally know anybody that did.
Not that it really mattered. I was already rated at 100 percent service-connected anyhow,and that's as high as it gets so it didn't cost the government any more other than what they had to pay the shrink to sit on his pen and rotate. Which is why I got that rating even though I told everybody I ever talked to at the VA that I didn't have PTSD and in fact have never been treated for it or given any prescriptions. The shrink just needed to pump up his patient numbers,and I haven't seen him since the initial visit in the 1980's.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#16. To: Deckard, misterwhite, sneakypete, GrandIsland, (#0)
Police were summoned to Lewandowski’s Geronimo residence in June 2014 after neighbors reported him suffering a PTSD episode.
Posted: Jun 02, 2014 4:29 PM
Updated: Jun 09, 2014 01:36 PM
Deputies responded to a home on Arapaho Street in Geronimo around 10:00 p.m. Sunday after 32-year-old Kristoffer Lewandowski was seen chasing his wife with a knife. After barricading himself in his home, he ultimately surrendered.
#17. To: Deckard, misterwhite, sneakypete, GrandIsland, (#0)
...locating six marijuana plants.
"...nine marijuana plants were found growing on the property."
#18. To: Deckard, misterwhite, sneakypete, GrandIsland (#17)
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Domestic disturbance turns into pot bust
Posted: Jun 02, 2014 4:29 PM
GERONIMO, Okla._What started out as a call on a domestic disturbance complaint for Comanche County Sheriff's deputies, turned into a major pot bust in the county. Deputies responded to a home on Arapaho Street in Geronimo around 10:00 p.m. Sunday after 32-year-old Kristoffer Lewandowski was seen chasing his wife with a knife. After barricading himself in his home, he ultimately surrendered. That's when nine marijuana plants were found growing on the property. "This is a rare deal. Usually you just go out to a domestic and you just take care of the situation," explained Comanche County Sheriff Kenny Stradley. Sheriff Stradley said it was clear from the get-go that Sunday night's call was anything but typical. "The individual supposedly chased his wife with a knife and she went next door to a neighbor. They went to the door, he was inside the house, he first wouldn't come out. We thought he had a gun," said Stradley. Once Lewandowski surrendered and came out of this house, that's when sheriff's deputies went inside. All it took was one look around the home for officers to realize they were dealing with a more serious situation. “When we get there and we find out we have marijuana there that's being grown, it seems to get worse. And then with children present this is a bad situation gone worse for the whole entire family," explained Sheriff Stradley. The entire ordeal was witnessed by Lewandowski's two young children. Both were taken into DHS custody before being released to their mother. In all, nine marijuana plants were found, along with growing equipment and two guns. Lewandowski now faces charges of cultivating marijuana, paraphernalia and domestic assault in the presence of a child. It's a situation that Sheriff Stradley says has no winners. "Probably one of the things that bothers me is that you've got kids in the house and you're growing drugs in there. Kids are precious. If you don't have enough for yourself, you should have enough for your kids to not have it around them. This was a situation that was bad…that went from bad to worse," said Sheriff Stradley. Lewandowski is currently enlisted in the U.S. Marines. He sits in the Comanche County Detention Center to await further investigation by military police.
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#19. To: Gatlin (#18)
Once Lewandowski surrendered and came out of this house, that's when sheriff's deputies went inside. All it took was one look around the home for officers to realize they were dealing with a more serious situation.“When we get there and we find out we have marijuana there that's being grown, it seems to get worse. And then with children present this is a bad situation gone worse for the whole entire family," explained Sheriff Stradley.
You mean, the cops THOUGHT the issue about chasing his wife with a knife was a lessor issue than having a couple of pot plants?
#20. To: Deckard, misterwhite, sneakypete, GrandIsland (#18)
Police charged Kristoffer with felony marijuana cultivation…
It is a “felony” only when selling the marijuana.
If he is charged with a felony, then he is charged with selling marijuana.
Therefore, this is more serious than the article implies.
#21. To: Gatlin (#20)
Police charged Kristoffer with felony marijuana cultivation…It is a “felony” only when selling the marijuana. If he is charged with a felony, then he is charged with selling marijuana. Therefore, this is more serious than the article implies.
Indeed,but since there was no mention of him being busted for sales,it sounds like a bogus bust to me.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#22. To: sneakypete (#21)
Police charged Kristoffer with felony marijuana cultivation…It is a “felony” only when selling the marijuana. If he is charged with a felony, then he is charged with selling marijuana. Therefore, this is more serious than the article implies.
Indeed,but since there was no mention of him being busted for sales,it sounds like a bogus bust to me.
Could very well be bogus. These articles never give complete details, especially if it goes against their agenda.
Then the law that was posted doesn't state, maybe over so many plants is considered "selling" and the 9 plants fell into that category....again, just a maybe.
In any case, the guy is mixed up in his head and need help. Chasing his wife with a knife is some serious shit.
#23. To: Gatlin (#22)
In any case, the guy is mixed up in his head and need help. Chasing his wife with a knife is some serious shit.
Yeah,chasing your wife with a knife requires the kind of help you get on a prison mental ward.
That sort of thing is just unacceptable and inexcusable. It really pisses me off that this lameass is blaming PTSD and combat duty for him losing his nut and going after his wife with a knife. Kinda makes you want to ask how many wives he killed with a knife in the Muddle East,doesn't it?
IMHO,that woman needs to get the hell away from him. I know she has 3 kids with him and that makes it tough,but how tough will it be on her kids if the whackjob murders her?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#24. To: sneakypete (#23)
I agree.
I have held the same feeling for a long time as you about PTSD being blamed for everything.
#25. To: GrandIsland, sneakypete, Deckard, misterwhite (#6)
All it takes to qualify for a "fugitive from justice" is that the alledged crime the fugitive is wanted for in another state, is a crime in the state he's found in.
In significant part, the Lewandowski excuse making sounds like a cock and bull half story. He may have gotten bail and made his required contact with the bail bondsman, but it would appear he did not stay in contact with the court and did not have permission to move to California, aka cross state lines while fleeing the jurisdiction. He would have been required to provide the court upon any change of address. He may not have known about the court date because he had fled the jurisdiction. The court only papers the last address he had on record with the court. The fault for not receiving the notice would appear to lie with Lewandowski. When you are out on bail, you flee the jurisdiction and do not appear for a court date, bad things happen, especially when the Federal marshals are the ones looking for you.
Left out of the PrisonPlanet story is the part about Lewandowski being busted while on active duty with the Marines. He is 6'7", 276 lbs, and a mentally unstable marine on the lam. They came with enough force that they did not have to put him in the hospital or the grave.
It would appear he was arrested for allegedly chasing his wife with a knife, domestic assault in the presence of a child; and growing pot.
[excerpt]
update: June 22, 2015, Monday, Orange Co. Calif.
Judge approves extradition of Marine Kristoffer Lewandowski to possible life in prison in Oklahoma for less than an ounce — 1 ounce — of immature half dead cannabis plants. 6/18, Federal Marshals descended on his sons’ Laguna Beach preschool, guns drawn; Kris awaits imminent removal from his home state of California to Oklahoma, which must collect him within 30 days. Bail is set at $100,000, in Oklahoma.Laguna Beach June 18, 2015……
Kristoffer Lewandowski, a multiple tour Iraq War Veteran, honorably discharged, 100% service-related disabled Marine, pulled into his son’s preschool, in a church in Aliso Viejo, California. A conglomerate of unmarked random SUVs, trucks & cars followed fast; nine armed men, guns drawn, ran in, swarming around the family’s car as Whitney, Kris’s wife, exited to take their two sons, ages 2 & 4, to Laguna Parent Participation Preschool. Only after she protested being dragged away, panicking to get to her kids, did the man holding her show her a badge identifying him as a Federal Marshal.Two more armed Marshals, parked on the street posing as landscapers, entered the scene. Finally, a police cruiser (the only marked vehicle or officers) arrived as well. Luckily no one — not the children, parents and teachers present, including the Lewandowskis, were shot, and Kris peacefully exited the car and surrendered — to what the family wasn’t yet sure.
[...]
At the time of his arrest on June 18, on a Fugitive Warrant issued by the same Judge Tayloe of Oklahoma, for $100,000 bail, Kris was just adjusting to his second try on an additional (to his PTSD meds) round of very strong psych meds. One does not have to be a doctor to understand how dangerous this is to Kris. If he is kept in jail, or worse taken back to Oklahoma, how will he ever get help. The answer to that question is obvious… he won’t.
Update: June 23, 2015
It is now known that the US Marshals followed them at least for the entire morning before making the dramatic arrest at the preschool with guns drawn, though they knew exactly where the Lewandowski family was since Kris had been in touch, as required, with the bail bondsman once per week. They observed Kris leave the home to ride his bike to college; observed Whitney leave the home with their 2 young sons to pick Kris up and sit in the college parking lot for 10 minutes talking over his class he was so excited about. The US Marshals then followed the family to breakfast, then to the church preschool.Whitney Lewandowski was able to reach the Court and was told that the court date Kris failed to appear for was on May 28th. This is the first they have heard about an actual date that was missed. This date was also during the time Kris was admitted to the VA psychiatric ward in Long Beach, CA.
In significant part, the Lewandowski excuse making sounds like a cock and bull story. He may have gotten bail and made his required contact with the bail bondsman, but it would appear he did not stay in contact with the court and did not have permission to move to California, aka cross state lines while fleeing the jurisdiction. He would have been required to provide the court upon any change of address. He may not have known about the court date because he had fled the jurisdiction. The court only papers the last address he had on record with the court. The fault for not receiving the notice would appear to lie with Lewandowski. When you are out on bail, you flee the jurisdiction and do not appear for a court date, bad things happen, especially when the Federal marshals are the ones looking for you.
Left out of the PrisonPlanet story is the part about Lewandowski being busted while on active duty with the Marines. He is 6'7", 276 lbs, and a mentally unstable marine on the lam. They came with enough force that they did not have tyo put him in the hospital or the grave.
http://www.kswo.com/story/25674226/domestic-disturbance-turns-into-pot-bust
Domestic disturbance turns into pot bustKSWO, ABC 7 News
Posted: Jun 02, 2014 6:29 PM CDT
Updated: Jun 09, 2014 01:36 PMGERONIMO, Okla._What started out as a call on a domestic disturbance complaint for Comanche County Sheriff's deputies, turned into a major pot bust in the county.
Deputies responded to a home on Arapaho Street in Geronimo around 10:00 p.m. Sunday after 32-year-old Kristoffer Lewandowski was seen chasing his wife with a knife. After barricading himself in his home, he ultimately surrendered. That's when nine marijuana plants were found growing on the property.
"This is a rare deal. Usually you just go out to a domestic and you just take care of the situation," explained Comanche County Sheriff Kenny Stradley.
Sheriff Stradley said it was clear from the get-go that Sunday night's call was anything but typical.
"The individual supposedly chased his wife with a knife and she went next door to a neighbor. They went to the door, he was inside the house, he first wouldn't come out. We thought he had a gun," said Stradley.
Once Lewandowski surrendered and came out of this house, that's when sheriff's deputies went inside. All it took was one look around the home for officers to realize they were dealing with a more serious situation.
“When we get there and we find out we have marijuana there that's being grown, it seems to get worse. And then with children present this is a bad situation gone worse for the whole entire family," explained Sheriff Stradley.
The entire ordeal was witnessed by Lewandowski's two young children. Both were taken into DHS custody before being released to their mother.
In all, nine marijuana plants were found, along with growing equipment and two guns. Lewandowski now faces charges of cultivating marijuana, paraphernalia and domestic assault in the presence of a child. It's a situation that Sheriff Stradley says has no winners.
"Probably one of the things that bothers me is that you've got kids in the house and you're growing drugs in there. Kids are precious. If you don't have enough for yourself, you should have enough for your kids to not have it around them. This was a situation that was bad…that went from bad to worse," said Sheriff Stradley.
Lewandowski is currently enlisted in the U.S. Marines. He sits in the Comanche County Detention Center to await further investigation by military police.
Judge Tayloe took office in April 2014.
#26. To: sneakypete, Gatlin (#23)
Yeah,chasing your wife with a knife requires the kind of help you get on a prison mental ward.
But if the tables were reversed they would just prescribe her some Midol..
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.â€
#27. To: Gatlin (#16)
32-year-old Kristoffer Lewandowski was seen chasing his wife with a knife.
Gatlin, he's a "DISABLED VET". He should be allowed to kill his wife, violate drug laws... anything he desires. Deckard says so
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#28. To: CZ82 (#26)
But if the tables were reversed they would just prescribe her some Midol..
Probably,but that wouldn't make it right.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#29. To: GrandIsland (#27) (Edited)
32-year-old Kristoffer Lewandowski was seen chasing his wife with a knife.Gatlin, he's a "DISABLED VET". He should be allowed to kill his wife, violate drug laws... anything he desires. Deckard says so
I thought the same after I read the local news.
The whole of the article at Infowarped was about marijuana with no mention of his chasing his wife with a knife....which should have been the primary focus, her life threatened.
But you are right, according to Deckard's Law....thy will be done by "Pot Rules" and fuck the Oklahoma law.
#30. To: Stoner (#12)
"Well, if for personal use with his "PTSD", how long would 6 plants last him?"
Now they're saying nine plants.
So, one pound per plant. 16 ounces per pound, 28 grams per ounce, one gram per joint (generous) = 2700 joints (6 plants). At a stingy .5 grams per joint, 5400 joints.
With nine plants, 8100 joints or about 22 joints per day, every day. To treat a condition for which it is not approved.
"Thus, there is no evidence at this time that marijuana is an effective treatment for PTSD. In fact, research suggests that marijuana can be harmful to individuals with PTSD."
-- U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs
http://www.ptsd.va.gov/professional/co- occurring/marijuana_use_ptsd_veterans.asp
#31. To: misterwhite (#30)
Making plants illegal is kind of silly. Who cares if he wanted to smoke some weed.
#32. To: Gatlin (#20)
"It is a “felony” only when selling the marijuana."
According to Oklahoma law, cultivating up to 1,000 plants is a felony, punishable by a maximum $25,000 fine and between 20 years and life imprisonment.
They don't mess around in Oklahoma.
#33. To: misterwhite (#30)
"Thus, there is no evidence at this time that marijuana is an effective treatment for PTSD. In fact, research suggests that marijuana can be harmful to individuals with PTSD." -- U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs http://www.ptsd.va.gov/profess
Weed cures cancer, poverty, ugliness and personal responsibility. It just doesn't have any effect on retardation, IQ or reality.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#34. To: A K A Stone (#31)
"Who cares if he wanted to smoke some weed."
That would be the majority of Oklahomans, acting through their elected representatives.
My turn. What do you care how the citizens of Oklahoma want to live their lives in their state?
#35. To: misterwhite (#32)
" According to Oklahoma law, cultivating up to 1,000 plants is a felony "
And how many plants did the Vet have?
Post # 30, per misterwhite: Now they're saying nine plants.
It would appear you are guilty of " yellow journalism ", to further an AGENDA.
Grow up.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
#36. To: misterwhite (#30)
With nine plants, 8100 joints
Very interesting
#37. To: misterwhite (#34)
That would be the majority of Oklahomans, acting through their elected representatives.My turn. What do you care how the citizens of Oklahoma want to live their lives in their state?
You're delusional if you think "elected representatives" do what their constitutionals want.
If that is your true belief. You should be consistent and quit criticizing the ape in the White House.
#38. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland (#29)
The whole of the article at Infowarped was about marijuana with no mention of his chasing his wife with a knife....which should have been the primary focus, her life threatened.
You two clowns are so frigging dense.
From the article -
Whitney says police at the time twisted her arm into pressing charges against her husband, threatening her with felony charges, as well as confiscation of their children by Child Protective Services.
“They’re trying to use me as a victim and to make it look worse on his case,” Whitney insists. “My husband has absolutely never laid his hands on me ever. He is not an abusive man, ever… quite the opposite. He is extremely doting.”
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.†- Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#39. To: A K A Stone (#37)
"You're delusional if you think "elected representatives" do what their constitutionals want."
If they don't, I vote against them in the next election. If 51% of the voters agree with me, he's gone. Just like Eric Cantor.
"You should be consistent and quit criticizing the ape in the White House."
I didn't vote for him. Why should I stop my criticism?
#40. To: Deckard (#38)
“My husband has absolutely never laid his hands on me ever."
Well, no. Only because you outran him when he was chasing you with a knife.
"He is extremely doting.”
Only if "doting" is another word for "psycho killer".
#41. To: Stoner, nolu chan (#35)
"It would appear you are guilty of " yellow journalism ", to further an AGENDA."
I got the "nine plants" from Post #25.
Hey, chan. Are you a "yellow journalist? Stoner thinks you are.
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