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Title: The Confederate Flag Is Not A Symbol Of Hatred–It Is An OBJECT Of Hatred
Source: VDare
URL Source: http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-c ... tred-it-is-an-object-of-hatred
Published: Jun 26, 2015
Author: Pat Buchanan
Post Date: 2015-06-26 02:14:37 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 10697
Comments: 55

“I will never be able to hold her again, but I forgive you.”

So said Nadine Collier, who lost her mother in the massacre at the Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina, offering forgiveness to Dylann Roof, who confessed to the atrocity that took the lives of nine churchgoers at that Wednesday night prayer service and Bible study.

If there is a better recent example of what it means to be a Christian, I am unaware of it. Collier and the families of those slain showed a faithfulness to Christ’s gospel of love and forgiveness that many are taught but few are strong enough to follow, especially at times like this.

Their Christian witness testifies to a forgotten truth: If slavery was the worst thing that happened to black folks brought from Africa to America, Christianity was the best.

Charleston, too, gave us an example of how a city should behave when faced with horror.

Contrast the conduct of those good Southern people who stood outside that church in solidarity with the aggrieved, with the Ferguson mobs that looted and burned and the New York mobs that chanted for the killing of cops when the Eric Garner grand jury declined to indict.

Yet, predictably, the cultural Marxists, following Rahm Emanuel’s dictum that you never let a crisis go to waste, descended like locusts.

As Roof had filmed himself flaunting a Confederate battle flag, the cry went out to tear that flag down from the war memorial in Columbia, South Carolina, and remove its vile presence everywhere in America.

Sally Jenkins of The Washington Post appeared front and center on its op-ed page with this call to healing: “The Confederate battle flag is an American swastika, the relic of traitors and totalitarians, symbol of a brutal regime, not a republic. The Confederacy was treason in defense of a still deeper crime against humanity: slavery.”

But if Jenkins’ hate-filled screed is right, if the Confederacy was Nazi Germany on American soil, then not only the battle flag must go.

The Confederate War Memorial on the capitol grounds honors the scores of thousands of South Carolinians who died in the lost cause. And if that was a cause of traitors and totalitarians and about nothing but slavery, ought not that memorial be dynamited?

Even as ISIS is desecrating tombs in Palmyra, Syria, the cultural purge of the South has begun.

Rep. Steve Cohen wants the name of legendary cavalryman Nathan Bedford Forrest removed from Forrest Park in Memphis and his bust gone from the capitol; Sen. Mitch McConnell wants the statue of Confederate President Jefferson Davis removed from the Kentucky capitol.

Governors are rushing to remove replicas of the battle flag from license plates, with Virginia’s Terry McAuliffe the most vocal. Will McAuliffe also demand that the statues of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson be removed from Monument Avenue in Richmond?

“Take Down a Symbol of Hatred,” rails The New York Times.

But the battle flag is not so much a symbol of hatred as it is an object of hatred, a target of hatred. It evokes a hatred of the visceral sort that we see manifest in Jenkins’ equating of the South of Washington, Jefferson, John Calhoun, Andrew Jackson and Lee with Hitler’s Third Reich.

What the flag symbolizes for the millions who revere, cherish or love it, however, is the heroism of those who fought and died under it. That flag flew over battlefields, not over slave quarters.

Hence, who are the real haters here?

Can the Times really believe that all those coffee cups and baseball caps and T-shirts and sweaters and flag decals on car and truck bumpers are declarations that the owners hate black people? Does the Times believe Southern folks fly the battle flag in their yards because they want slavery back?

The Times’ editorialists cannot be such fools.

Vilification of that battle flag and the Confederacy is part of the cultural revolution in America that flowered half a century ago. Among its goals was the demoralization of the American people by demonizing their past and poisoning their belief in their own history.

The world is turned upside down. The new dogma of the cultural Marxists: Columbus was a genocidal racist. Three of our Founding Fathers—Washington, Jefferson, Madison—were slaveowners. Andrew Jackson was an ethnic cleanser of Indians. The great Confederate generals—Lee, Jackson, Forrest—fought to preserve an evil institution. You have nothing to be proud of and much to be ashamed of if your ancestors fought for the South. And, oh yes, your battle flag is the moral equivalent of a Nazi swastika.

And how is the Republican Party standing up to this cultural lynch mob? Retreating and running as fast as possible.

If we are to preserve our republic, future generations are going to need what that battle flag truly stands for: pride in our history and defiance in the face of the arrogance of power.

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Rep. Steve Cohen wants the name of legendary cavalryman Nathan Bedford Forrest removed from Forrest Park in Memphis and his bust gone from the capitol; Sen. Mitch McConnell wants the statue of Confederate President Jefferson Davis removed from the Kentucky capitol.

Nathan Bedford Forrest also was a mainstay of the KKK after the war (if not the Grand Wizard as well). His name is infamous on that account alone, beyond the reputed brutality and alleged war crimes of his military campaigns.

Forrest was an early member of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK). Historian and Forrest biographer Brian Steel Wills writes, "While there is no doubt that Forrest joined the Klan, there is some question as to whether he actually was the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan."[49] The KKK (the Klan) was formed by veterans of the Confederate Army in Pulaski, Tennessee in 1866 and soon expanded throughout the state and beyond. Forrest became involved sometime in late 1866 or early 1867. A common report is that Forrest arrived in Nashville in April 1867 while the Klan was meeting at the Maxwell House Hotel, probably at the encouragement of a state Klan leader, former Confederate general George Gordon. The organization had grown to the point where an experienced commander was needed, and Forrest fit the bill. In Room 10 of the Maxwell, Forrest was sworn in as a member.[50]

According to Wills, in the August 1867 state elections the Klan was relatively restrained in its actions. White Americans who made up the KKK hoped to persuade black voters that a return to their state of repression and slavery, as it existed before the war, was in their best interest. Forrest assisted in maintaining order. It was only after these efforts failed that Klan violence and intimidation escalated and became widespread.[51] Author Andrew Ward, however, writes, "In the spring of 1867, Forrest and his dragoons launched a campaign of midnight parades; 'ghost' masquerades; and 'whipping' and even 'killing Negro voters and white Republicans, to scare blacks off voting and running for office.'"[52]

In an 1868 interview by a Cincinnati newspaper, Forrest claimed that the Klan had 40,000 members in Tennessee and 550,000 total members throughout the Southern states. He said he sympathized with them, but denied any formal connection. He claimed he could muster thousands of men himself. He described the Klan as "a protective political military organization... The members are sworn to recognize the government of the United States... Its objects originally were protection against Loyal Leagues and the Grand Army of the Republic..." Forrest dissolved the first incarnation of the Ku Klux Klan in 1869, although many local groups continued their activities for several years.[53]

And Jefferson Davis was only born in Kentucky, his only connection to it. Kentucky was not a Confederate state but suffered real harm from the Civil War. No Kentuckian should be all that fond of a Confederate president who happened to be born in the state but spent no time there.

This argument is not Buchanan's best writing.

Kentucky has no reason to love Jeff Davis and no one should admire Forrest for anything other than his brilliance as a military commander whose reputation also had KKK and war crimes baggage.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-26   9:31:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#3)

no one should admire Forrest for anything other than his brilliance as a military commander whose reputation also had KKK and war crimes baggage.

HorseHillary!

WHAT "war crimes" and "KKK baggage"?

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-26   10:01:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#5)

Wiki: Battle of Fort Pillow

The Battle of Fort Pillow, also known as the Fort Pillow massacre, was fought on April 12, 1864, at Fort Pillow on the Mississippi River in Henning, Tennessee, during the American Civil War. The battle ended with a massacre of Federal troops, most of them of African origin, while attempting to surrender, by soldiers under the command of Confederate Major General Nathan Bedford Forrest. Military historian David J. Eicher concluded, "Fort Pillow marked one of the bleakest, saddest events of American military history."

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-26   10:08:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TooConservative (#7)

The Battle of Fort Pillow, also known as the Fort Pillow massacre, was fought on April 12, 1864, at Fort Pillow on the Mississippi River in Henning, Tennessee, during the American Civil War. The battle ended with a massacre of Federal troops, most of them of African origin, while attempting to surrender, by soldiers under the command of Confederate Major General Nathan Bedford Forrest. Military historian David J. Eicher concluded, "Fort Pillow marked one of the bleakest, saddest events of American military history."

Once again you don't have a clue what you are discussing. I have read all accounts, and I have been to Ft. Pillow and carefully inspected and walked the site. I also had an extensive discussion with the park ranger. Additionally, I have read every book on Forrest that was published prior to 5 years ago.

Ft Pillow sits on a steep bluff overlooking the Mississippi River, and is approximately 250 to 300 feet high. Earthen works, which which are 10 feet high protect the front side of the fort, and the bluff and river protected the rear of the fort.

Forrest carefully examined the fort, and noted the earthen works were 8 feet wide at the top. The fort's defenders had to stand on benches to fire over the top of the earthen works. He saw the defenders were unable to point their rifles down due to the width of the earthen works. He used a depression to move in place his attackers at the outside base of the earthen works. He also used snipers to force the defenders to keep their heads down.

At the base of the bluff was the river, with a beach. Forrest placed two ambushes at the base of the bluff, one upstream and one downstream.

When the command was given to attack Forrest's men poured over the top of the earthen works catching the defenders completely.by surprise. The undisciplined Union troops rioted, and ran for the the bluff. Some turned to fire at the attackers, but were cut down where they stood. The rest fled down the bluff, and attempted to regroup at the base. They ran up the beach firing, and ran into the first ambush, and then retreated down the beach running into the second ambush.

Prior to attacking the fort Forrest gave the Union troops the chance to surrender. They refused, and paid the price.

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-06-26   13:08:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GarySpFC (#9)

Prior to attacking the fort Forrest gave the Union troops the chance to surrender. They refused, and paid the price.

Refusing to surrender prior to battle does not mean that any subsequent massacre is not a war crime.

What a shallow argument you are relying on.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-26   14:33:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: TooConservative (#13)

Nathan Bedford Forrest: General's actions exhibited high moral standards

By The Times-Union ,

As a descendant of a Confederate sergeant from Kentucky who loyally fought under Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest during the War between the States, I wish to clarify some errors and misconceptions concerning this brilliant man.

Honest and self-reliant, he became a proficient businessman, dealing in real estate, cotton cultivation and slave sales.

It should be noted that Forrest did not separate Negro families and would not sell his slaves to men of known cruelty.

He did not pursue this business venture with an attitude of hatred toward African-Americans, but, rather, with the view of financial independence for himself and his family.

Forrest could read and write, albeit crudely. There are numerous slave bills of sale, war documents and postwar letters that still exist to substantiate this fact.

Victory after victory, his promotions soon followed. At the conclusion of the war in 1865, Forrest was a lieutenant general, the only person on either side to rise from private to that rank.

Fort Pillow was defended by runaway slaves and Tennessee Tories, who were from Tennessee but chose to fight against their native state.

Their insolent behavior and abuse toward citizens in the surrounding vicinity had not gone unnoticed by the Confederate government. Forrest's men, many of whom were from Tennessee, regarded these ''home-grown Yanks'' as traitors. They had wives and children subjected to their random acts of violence and arson. Forrest was determined to squelch the outrages perpetrated against the local populace.

The general demanded the capitulation of the fort three times before he ordered the assault.

It is well-documented that many of the Negroes, after having surrendered, retrieved their guns and shot and bayoneted their captors.

Union Gen. William T. Sherman appointed a congressional committee to investigate the allegations of the so-called massacre at Fort Pillow. After interviewing hundreds of eyewitnesses, the committee exonerated Forrest of all the charges against him.

Forrest exhibited conduct that exemplified a high standard of morals. He did not drink alcoholic beverages nor did he use tobacco in any form.

His life should be an inspiration to all people, regardless of race or social status.

WILLIAM J. STIER

Jacksonville

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-06-26   15:39:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: too Conservative, Redleghunter, Liberator (#18)

The conversion of Nathan Bedford Forrest to Christ

Though Forrest was only in his 50’s, a lifetime of hard living and battle were beginning to take their toll on him. He began attending church with his beloved wife at the Court Avenue Presbyterian Church in Memphis where the gospel was preached faithfully by Rev. George Stainback. And he began to feel the Holy Spirit’s conviction for a lifetime of sin. One day he ran into an old army buddy who had been under his command named Raleigh White. Forrest exclaimed, “Why, Raleigh White, its you! I heard you’d gone down to South America or somewhere!” White replied that this was not true, but that he had in fact become a Christian, having been led to Christ by his wife after the war. After trying his hand in business, White succumbed to an overwhelming call to preach the gospel of Christ to sinners; and was now a Southern Baptist Pastor living in Texas. Forrest listened to White’s testimony with obvious excitement, and then asked White if he would pray for him. The two veterans went into a bank lobby and knelt together as White prayed for Forrest. Then they parted ways. Another gospel seed had been planted that would soon take permanent root.

In the Fall of 1875, Forrest found himself setting next to his wife listening to Rev. Stainback preach from Jesus’ words in Matthew 7:

"Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock. Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell—and great was its fall." (Matthew 7:24-27 NASB)

Forrest’s heart was crushed and his spiritual eyes were opened. After the service he pulled Rev. Stainback aside and as Rev. Stainback later recounted: “Forrest suddenly leaned against the wall and his eyes filled with tears. 'Sir, your sermon has removed the last prop from under me,' he said, 'I am the fool that built on the sand; I am a poor miserable sinner.” Stainback told Forrest to go home and read and meditate on Psalm 51 and see where it led him.

“Be gracious to me, O God, according to Your lovingkindness; According to the greatness of Your compassion blot out my transgressions. Wash me thoroughly from my iniquity And cleanse me from my sin. For I know my transgressions, And my sin is ever before me.” (Psalms 51:1-3 NASB)

The next night, Rev. Stainback went by to visit with Forrest, and they fell to their knees and prayed together. Forrest said that he had put his trust in the Redeemer, and that his heart was finally at peace. The final two years of his life seemed to bear out the truth of his confession. Nathan Bedford Forrest the fierce fighter, gambler, racist, and sinner….was a changed man.

In 1875, Forrest was invited to speak to a black civil rights group called the “Pole-Bearers” Association, a forerunner for today’s NAACP. Though mocked by some white people for appearing, Forrest addressed the black people in love saying, “I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man, to depress none. I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand.”

At the end of his speech a young, black girl named Lou Lewis presented General Forrest with a bouquet of flowers as a sign of reconciliation between the two races. Forrest accepted the flowers, then leaned down and gently kissed the girl on the cheek, a public act of reverence and respect that was absolutely unheard of for a white man to do in that day. Indeed, Nathan Bedford Forrest, former Grand Wizard of the KKK, was a new creature in Christ.

Nathan Bedford Forrest died from complications from Diabetes on October 21, 1877, when he was 56 years old. He said on his deathbed that there was “not a cloud that separated him from his beloved Heavenly Father.” The lessons from the life of Nathan Bedford Forrest are legion. His battlefield tactics have been studied by military men the world over, and he has been called by many a strategic genius in the art of war. But his personal and spiritual life give us far greater lessons. He is a clear testimonial example of God’s overwhelming power to change even the hardest of sinners. Though sadly, Forrest today is mostly remembered for his sin.

Many efforts have been made by civil rights leaders to have his name removed from parks and schools all across the South because of his being the epitome of racism. And yet, when the complete story of Nathan Bedford Forrest is known, we see him as being the very example of what we would hope to see from all racial bigots: a transformed and changed life. Though he was once the black man’s enemy, he became one of their dearest friends and defenders. His desire to see black people serving in politics and professional occupations was a clarion call for equality that was way ahead of its time. In fact, this “Southern racist” called for greater civil rights than most Northern abolitionists would have been comfortable with. Forrest had once owned and sold slaves for his business. Now his business was to see that they were treated fairly. It reminds me of another slave- trader turned Christian by the name of John Newton, who wrote a hymn you might have heard of: “Amazing Grace! How sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me! I once was lost, but now am found; was blind, but now I see.”

To hold a grudge against Nathan Bedford Forrest is to deny one of the greatest truths Christ teaches us; that the power of the gospel can change anyone. And that we should ask the Lord to “forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who sin against us.” (Matthew 6:12) Nathan Bedford Forrest was a sinner par excellence. So am I. And so are you, if you would be humble enough to admit it. For the Bible teaches us that “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23) Nathan Bedford Forrest was despised in his day, as he is in most circles today, though Christians should forgive him just as Christ has forgiven us. Union General William T. Sherman vowed to catch “that devil Forrest.” But Sherman never was able to do it. In the end, it was Jesus Christ who finally caught up with him. And rather than kill him….Jesus changed him and on a glorious and providential day in 1875, the unthinkable and impossible actually happened: “that devil” got saved. Let us hope and pray that the Lord Jesus Christ would save many more “devils” like Nathan Bedford Forrest and transfer them from “the domain of darkness to the kingdom of His beloved Son.” (Colossians 1:13)

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-06-26   16:01:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: GarySpFC (#19)

The conversion of Nathan Bedford Forrest to Christ

None of which absolves his gross acts as a general and as a key leader of the KKK and all that followed.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-26 18:39:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: GarySpFC (#19)

Thank you for posting this. Oh the wonders of His Grace, the Divine Physician heals the wicked and broken.

God Bless.

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