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Opinions/Editorials Title: The Anti-Politician (Deleted Thread, Does It Contain a confession by Buckeroo about the Yukon "hack" At the declaration by Donald Trump that he is a candidate for the presidential nomination of the Republican Party, media elites of left and right reacted with amusement, anger and disgust. Though he has been a hugely successful builder-businessman, far more successful than, say, Carly Fiorina, who has been received respectfully, our resident elites resolutely refuse to take Trump seriously. They should. Not because he will be nominated, but because the Trump constituency will represent a vote of no confidence in the Beltway ruling class of politicians and press. Votes for Trump will be votes to repudiate that class, whole and entire, and dump it onto the ash heap of history. Votes for Trump will be votes to reject a regime run by Bushes and Clintons that plunged us into unnecessary wars, cannot secure our borders, and negotiates trade deals that produced the largest trade deficits known to man and gutted a manufacturing base that was once “the great arsenal of democracy” and envy of mankind. A vote for Trump is a vote to say that both parties have failed America and none of the current crop of candidates offers real hope of a better future. The first book in Arthur Schlesinger’s trilogy about FDR’s ascent to power was “The Crisis of the Old Order.” That title is relevant to our time. For there is today a crisis of the regime in America — a crisis of confidence, a crisis of competence, a crisis of legitimacy. People are agitating for the overthrow of the old order and a new deal for America. For there is a palpable sense that the game is rigged against Middle America and for the benefit of insiders who grow rich and fat not by making things or building things, but by manipulating money. Americans differentiate the wealth of a Henry Ford and a Bill Gates from that of the undeserving rich whose hedge fund fortunes can exceed the GDP of nations. Trump says America is becoming a “dumping ground” for mass immigration from the failed states of the Third World, that Mexico is not “sending us her best and finest,” that China is stealing American jobs, that invading Iraq was a blunder. Politically incorrect and socially insensitive certainly, but is he entirely wrong? Was not the Iraq war a disaster for which our foreign policy priesthood and journalist-acolytes never paid the price that would be exacted in other societies were thousands of soldiers to die and tens of thousands to be wounded and maimed in so predictable a blunder? Is it not true that among the millions of illegal immigrants who have broken into our country the great majority has illegitimacy rates, delinquency rates, dropout rates, drug use rates, crime rates, and incarceration rates far higher than those of native-born Americans? Is Trump wrong on this, or simply wrong to bring it up? Has not mass immigration brought to America old diseases we once stamped out and new diseases we had never heard of? Do Americans not have the right to decide who shall come to our country, how many, and whence they shall come? Is there no correlation between a decrepit Maoist China rising to become the greatest manufacturing power Asia has ever seen — and the $3 trillion to $4 trillion in trade deficits we have run with Beijing — and the disappearance of a third of all American manufacturing jobs? Who negotiated those deals? Who paid a price for the misery they brought to Rust Belt America? There are precedents in U.S. history for outsiders — Norman Thomas and Henry Wallace on the left, George Wallace and Ross Perot on the right — to enter the presidential lists. And across the pond a similar crisis of the old order is calling forth new people and new parties. As in America, dominant parties like the Tories and Labour in Britain are losing loyalists to the “a-plague-on-both-your-houses” dissident parties. Millions in Europe now want out of the EU. Old nations are coming apart. Leftist parties like Syriza in Greece and Podemos in Spain have arisen to defy Brussels and Berlin. The Scottish National Party is of the left while the Independence Party in the U.K. is of the populist right. In Southeastern Europe, there have arisen parties of the extreme right. This endless proliferation of parties, like the welcome being given to Trump, testifies to the new reality: Everywhere, including here, old parties are losing the people in whose name they presume to speak. And the specter of Republicans, who just won an historic victory by promising to do battle against President Obama, colluding with Obama to surrender Congress’ right to amend trade treaties and sign on to a Trans- Pacific Partnership pact that looks like another transfer of jobs and factories to Asia, has re-enforced these sentiments. If Trump wants to stake his claim as a different kind of Republican, he will go to Washington and pound the Boehner-McConnell Congress until it gives up on Obamatrade and fast track. [Thread Locked] Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-84) not displayed.
mumbo jumbo. You do not know the real world at all. YOU JUST BELIEVE IN SOME ARCHAIC SYSTEM THAT IS GOING NO WHERE.
#86. To: buckeroo, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#79) I won and you lose. It was never a “win or lose” for me, Buck.
#87. To: buckeroo (#85) So, why does the forums biggest government hating troll live in the most tyrannical state, Kookifornia? Is there anything about you that's not hypocritical? Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy #88. To: Gatlin (#86) I set out to prove you are a hypocrite….I did that. You have only shown yourself to be a complete asshole.
#89. To: buckeroo, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#88) I set out to prove you are a hypocrite….I did that. Buck... Let's let it go...
#90. To: Gatlin (#89) Sarge, there is no way that I shall "let it go." You are a complete asshole and you proved it on this thread. I recommend that your password be strengthened far greater than it is now.
#91. To: Gatlin (#89) I can't believe he makes a living off my federal tex dollars. No wonder he's embarrassed to accept SS Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy #92. To: buckeroo (#90) I recommend that your password be strengthened far greater than it is now. You are a common criminal and a pest to society and this forum. No wonder you hate LE. Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy #93. To: buckeroo (#90) (Edited)
Why should I strengthen my password, Buck? Do you intend to do to me what Goldi said here that you did to yukon? I have always suspected it was you, and I figured your ego would bring you to admit it someday. Is that someday…..now, Buck? Did you compromise yukon’s password?
#94. To: GrandIsland (#92) You are a common criminal and a pest to society and this forum. No wonder you hate LE. And don't forget that I am a US citizen, never been arrested making money on a daily basis through productive pursuits. And I vote.
#95. To: GrandIsland, buckeroo (#52) difference between a mutual fund and a payment supported by taxes. What would the mutual funds that invested in AAA sub-prime A$$paper be worth today if Helicopter Ben hadn't fired up the printing press?
#96. To: Gatlin (#93) Remember the evening, when LP went down for a total of 15 minutes [900 seconds to be accurate]? Just prior to the loss of intercommunication, you and I were active in discourse about your paranoia over yukon. Remember? You came back to the channel after it was unlocked and freaked out that I was still present. A number of others realized the same, too. But, you probably don't remember as you have lost your mind and reasoning skills.
#97. To: Gatlin (#93) I want you to think of my recommendations as mere publick safety precautions that are offered in good faith and common sense. You need not worry anymore than some Alaskans.
#98. To: buckeroo (#96) Remember the evening, when LP went down for a total of 15 minutes [900 seconds to be accurate]? Just prior to the loss of intercommunication, you and I were active in discourse about your paranoia over yukon. Remember? You came back to the channel after it was unlocked and freaked out that I was still present. A number of others realized the same, too. I remember the DOS attack very well....how could anyone ever forget such a malicious attack? Are you now admitting that you did a DOS attack on LP? What others realized the same....you and I were the only ones on LP at the time of the DOS attack.
#99. To: Gatlin (#98) I remember the DOS attack very well....how could anyone ever forget such a malicious attack? What makes you think it was the only one? BTW, it was not a DOS attack.
#100. To: buckeroo (#97) I want you to think of my recommendations as mere publick safety precautions that are offered in good faith and common sense. You need not worry anymore than some Alaskans. Buck, thank you for your recommendations. However, I can assure you that I am not in the least bit worried. What's it gonna be with me, the old "I clicked on the wrong link" trick to a gay porn site....as was done with yukon? Or something different, this time?
#101. To: Gatlin (#98) I scare the shit out of you don't I? I am free and can do anything based on fact and reason whereas you are bounded by self constructed barriers to realize your own potential for being on this planet.
#102. To: buckeroo (#99) I remember the DOS attack very well....how could anyone ever forget such a malicious attack? I only saw the one....were there more? If it was not a DOS attack, then what was it? How else can a web forum be shut down for 15 minutes?
#103. To: buckeroo (#101) I scare the shit out of you don't I? Hell no, Buck....nothing scares me! You are all "Puff" and no "Adder."
#104. To: Gatlin (#100) Buck, thank you for your recommendations. No problem. It is my pleasure to ensure publick commentary meaningful for the publick good and trust for and about everyone.
However, I can assure you that I am not in the least bit worried. Very good. Don't change a thing.
What's it gonna be with me, the old "I clicked on the wrong link" trick to a gay porn site....as was done with yukon? I was thinkin' that all is required is to show your past & pathetic posts advocating a government that works against individual rights, liberties and freedoms. It wouldn't take much to summarize your fucked upped ideas. Kinda like a HYPOCRITE that you are.
#105. To: buckeroo (#101) I am free and can do anything based on fact and reason whereas you are bounded by self constructed barriers to realize your own potential for being on this planet. You being "free and can do anything based on fact and reason"….what do you feel like doing, Buck? Just sitting there pounding the keyboard and bloviating….it appears that way. I am not in the least bit impressed…
#106. To: Gatlin (#103) Hell no, Buck....nothing scares me! Serious? What would you do if the US government told you that they can't pay your pauper pension for peelin' potatoes for twenty years? I wager you would run out onto the streets screamin' bloody murder to any politician.
#107. To: buckeroo (#104) I was thinkin' that all is required is to show your past & pathetic posts advocating a government that works against individual rights, liberties and freedoms. It wouldn't take much to summarize your fucked upped ideas. Kinda like a HYPOCRITE that you are. Dang, Buck....you put some effort into that and you may get the Pulitzer Prize. GO FOR IT. But why do you need to compromise my password to do that? Just post it under one of the many Screen Names you have on standby here.
#108. To: Gatlin (#105) Just sitting there pounding the keyboard and bloviating….it appears that way. I see you are not gallivanting around the SouthWest in your broken down RV anymore. You just couldn't take the likes of me taking a stance on the border issues supporting the rude awakening that Americans give a damn about the course of this nation. Meanwhile you just float along the BS from Washington DC praying for a monthly stipend.
#109. To: buckeroo (#106)
Yes, SERIOUSLY! Buck, I can assure you that being the octogenarian I am, I have enough stashed away so that I would never miss getting anything I need or want to have the rest of my life. You are funny....well, not really funny. More like stupid....I will say.
#110. To: buckeroo (#108) I see you are not gallivanting around the SouthWest in your broken down RV anymore. You just couldn't take the likes of me taking a stance on the border issues supporting the rude awakening that Americans give a damn about the course of this nation. Meanwhile you just float along the BS from Washington DC praying for a monthly stipend. Your are becoming incoherent. We have been through this many times before. It is time once again for you to put the bottle down. And time for me to leave you....
#111. To: Gatlin (#109) Your chronological age has little to do with your personal remiss of begging the government to control our lives. You just don't get it, pal. The US government has already reached its zenith. That was immediately after WW2 when you worked as a potatoe peeler for the USAF. Since then, the US government has lost world wide stature to include your meager contributions of tater peelin'. Now, that isn't your direct fault. But it is your responsibility for continuing meaningless government programs around the world by voting these jackasses into office.
#112. To: Gatlin, A K A Stone, All (#110) Your are becoming incoherent. Here is the beef that "gatlin" has with me: I was directly involved with Chris Simcox in the Minuteman Project while in Arizona; this was in 2005. There were many rumours that Simcox and I were stealing funds. This never happened and were never proved no matter how the SPLC framed all us. And this guy "gatlin" believes to this day that I am fat cat over this one publick demonstration that I have participated within. He is fuckin' idiot.
#113. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone, All (#112) (Edited) Your are becoming incoherent. Nah, I shouldn’t. Oh, what the Hell….I will. This tidbit of information is just to good to let pass. There were many rumours that Simcox and I were stealing funds. This never happened and were never proved no matter how the SPLC framed all us. Wow, Buck….that is absolutely fascinating. This has heretofore never been posted on any forum or revealed in any form whatsoever. I have never heard about this. Buck, please have another shot and then take time to tell us the details. I assure you that we are all ears. Exactly when and how did this happen…
#114. To: buckeroo (#112) never proved no matter how the SPLC framed all us. OMG.... Bucky Wuz hacked!!!!! Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy #115. To: Gatlin, Mel Living (#113) Mel gave you my personal information. The bitch floated my personal data because she worked within the Minuteman Project and later turned against us. She is a traitor and a false patriot. But you think you are "special" to have some data on me. Go fuck yourself, pal.
#116. To: buckeroo (#115) Mel gave you my personal information. The bitch floated my personal data You WUZ HACKED twice? Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy #117. To: GrandIsland (#114) OMG.... Bucky Wuz hacked!!!!! The SPLC and the other so-called credible "American" groups watch what we do. It isn't so much what we say, but what we do.
#118. To: GrandIsland (#116) The Anti-Defamation League came after me several tymes for publick opinions. And still I survive their attacks that that have proven false.
#119. To: buckeroo (#115) Mel gave you my personal information. The bitch floated my personal data because she worked within the Minuteman Project and later turned against us. She is a traitor and a false patriot. Hey, Buck….WHOA. It was you who posted your personal information, you did so here.
I am something “special.” Having any data on you is of absolutely no importance to me.
Why did you post your personal data?
Go back and tell us about Simcox and you….you forgot to do that.
#120. To: GrandIsland (#116) The bitch was registered as our auditor and stole my data and all others. Today, she invites illegals over the border into her trailer givin' them a quick fuck.
#121. To: buckeroo (#118) The Anti-Defamation League came after me several tymes for publick opinions. I thought it was the SPLC....now, its the Anti-Defamation League. Where and where did the Anti-Defamation League come after you...and exactly for what?
#122. To: Gatlin (#119) It was all 'bout you sniffin' around with Mel, pal. How did you link up with that government lovin' bitch anyway? WHOOPS! Rhetorical answer: Free denero from the US Government as you live on taxpayer money.
#123. To: Gatlin (#121) You are crazed, tater. I have created more publick excitement in the publick venue than you have ever understood to be possible as you beg for a government handout. Yes, the Jews came after me, too.
#124. To: buckeroo (#123) Yes, the Jews came after me, too. When, how and why?
#125. To: Gatlin (#124) Advocating peaceful and meaningful demonstrations in Washington DC. All the publick demonstrations were registered. That is how ADL came after me; publick information just as you viciously performed tonight against me. You are so fucked upped about the world, it is mind blowing to the publick. You notice that the forum is completely silenced by this thread don't you?
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