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Title: Trump 2007: Hillary’s “very, very capable,” her [single-payer] health care plan is “very good” [Clinton Foundation donations, etc.]
Source: HotAir
URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2015/06/ ... health-care-plan-is-very-good/
Published: Jun 17, 2015
Author: Allahpundit
Post Date: 2015-06-17 21:24:00 by Tooconservative
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Says Andrew Stiles, “Portions of the aggrieved right are rallying around someone who was basically a member of Team Clinton until recently.” Basically, yeah. BuzzFeed’s Andrew Kaczynski dug up this old interview with Trump by CNN eight years ago in which he praised HillaryCare 2.0, a plan that came replete with an individual mandate (Obama’s health-care plan at the time didn’t, ironically enough), and called Her Majesty “very, very capable.” He wasn’t just blowing smoke with the compliments either, notes Kaczynski:

Trump, who announced Tuesday he was running for the Republican presidential nomination, has also given large sums of money to the Clinton Foundation. His name is listed on the Clinton Foundation’s website as having donated between $100,000 and $250,000.

As noted by Bloomberg Politics, Hillary Clinton also had a front row seat at Trump’s 2005 wedding and Bill, unable to go to wedding, attended a black-tie reception at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach.

Nothing says “friendship” in ClintonWorld like money, and Trump’s given her campaigns plenty of that:

She’s not the only Democrat he’s donated to and his fondness for Hillary is by no means his only conservative heresy. Kaczynski wrote a separate post yesterday ticking off all the RINO-y positions Trump held 15 years ago, when he first started eyeing politics — single-payer health care, an assault weapons ban, a new tax on the rich, and of course abortion rights. (His conversion on that last one didn’t come until many years later.) But none of that matters, right? Compare the reception Trump gets nowadays from conservative populists to the disdain in which they held, and continue to hold, Mitt Romney. Romney started his political life in the 90s as a moderate Republican, pro-choice and keen to note during his Senate run in Massachusetts in 1994 that he was an independent during the Reagan years. He’s never shaken the perception that he’s a squish at heart who mouthed conservative platitudes only because his true feelings wouldn’t play in a GOP primary.

Trump is a much worse heretic on policy but because he’s in sync with populists attitudinally, wiling to throw hard jabs at Obama and establishment Republicans, his claims that he’s evolved over time into an orthodox-ish conservative will be taken more seriously than Romney’s. (One common defense of his 2007 praise Hillary, I imagine, will be to note that Jeb Bush gave Hillary Clinton an award for public service just this year. That’s more an indictment of Jeb than a defense of Trump, though, no?) It goes to show how much the label “RINO” has to do with personal style rather than policy. Because Trump’s combative, because his candidacy offends the mainstream media, because he touts simplistic policy solutions to hard problems like stopping ISIS by “blasting the hell” out of their oil fields, he enjoys a cachet with some righty populists that a milquetoast with the same policies would never have. I’m honestly curious to see how the audience reacts when he asks Ted Cruz at one of the debates whether he’s constitutionally eligible to be president.

Here’s the easiest prediction of the election, dedicated to everyone who thinks Trump’s days of boosting Hillary are behind him. He’ll spend the next six months tearing down the most credible candidates in the GOP field, and then, when he eventually drops out of the race, he’ll reserve his harshest criticism during next year’s general-election campaign for the GOP nominee rather than Hillary.

Update: How many “conservative” populists count Bill Clinton as their favorite president of the last 25 years? I know one.


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#1. To: TooConservative (#0)

Trump will hurt the others on side issues... where Trump can afford to say... I'll build a wall, and make Mexico pay for it... and the other (R) candidates will feel the need to tell the media how crazy Trump is... Trump loses the spick vote, (who cares because he's not viable) and the others (that never really had the spick vote) will lose the far right vote.

I like Trumps pledge to build a wall... but he's not solid on gun rights and I bet he gets an F in reduced government, more freedoms and Liberty... less governmental power.

Rand is the best all around candidate... but if Trump is the only person viable to beat that cunt, KILLary, I'll vote for him.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-17   21:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: GrandIsland (#1)

Rand is the best all around candidate... but if Trump is the only person viable to beat that cunt, KILLary, I'll vote for him.

Trump may be playing the same role as Perot did.

You recall that a Xlinton couldn't win in '92 without a kindly billionaire in the race to draw off some rube GOP voters.

And Perot, Bloomberg and Trump all follow the same template: lifelong registered Dems and donors who suddenly decide they're Republican (or indy) candidates.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-17   21:59:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#0)

I think I'll go ahead and vote Trump. I like him. I don't care about any dirt on him. I don't care about any attack piece on him. I think he would stop the illegals. I think he would do his best to impose tariffs and protect Americans from competing with slaves.

Trump 2016 would be a good choice. I may even vote for him. Especially if idiots like Karl Rove hate him.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-06-17   21:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TooConservative (#2)

Trump may be playing the same role as Perot did.

Trump is running as a Republican not an Independent. You're parroting Rush Limbaugh.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-06-17   22:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#3)

I think I'll go ahead and vote Trump. I like him. I don't care about any dirt on him.

Supporting the "assault weapons" ban, single-payer Hillarycare, etc., none of that matters?

And will you get a chance to vote for Trump? I doubt it unless you live in IA/NV/NH/SC/FL.

I doubt Trump will have the money or the will to stay in the race after he gets shellacked and ridiculed in a few races. His ego won't be able to take it.

I have to wonder if he's declaring Republican now (as Buchanan did in the 2000 race) and then will pull out before Iowa to run as an indy candidate. And then play the Perot role to help elect Hitlery, just like Perot did for her husband.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-17   22:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Trump is running as a Republican not an Independent. You're parroting Rush Limbaugh.

Absolutely nothing stops him from switching to indy later.

I did listen to Limbaugh for a bit on Monday but it was boring. Haven't listened since other than posting that YouTube audio clip of Limbaugh that you saw here.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-17   22:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#5)

I doubt Trump will have the money or the will to stay in the race after he gets shellacked and ridiculed in a few races. His ego won't be able to take it.

Trump is all about media attention/magnification and ego, not about substance.

rlk  posted on  2015-06-17   22:25:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#6)

Absolutely nothing stops him from switching to indy later.

If Bush, Rubio, Christie etch get the nomination. I hope he does. That way I can have someone to vote for.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-06-17   23:05:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TooConservative (#5)

I doubt Trump will have the money

Yeah he is really hurting for money.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-06-17   23:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative, out damned spot (#0)

" Trump 2007: Hillary’s “very, very capable,” her [single-payer] health care plan is “very good” "

With this, and his saying Billy Bob was his favorite past president, he is not warming me up to him.

Have heard some say he is not friendly to the 2nd Amendment. That would be a deal breaker for me.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-06-17   23:24:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#9)

Yeah he is really hurting for money.

I should have said "Trump won't have the money he is willing to spend."

You don't get as rich as Trump throwing good money after bad. After a few humiliating losses in the GOP early primaries and a lot of money spent, he'll duck out of the race (assuming he isn't angling to quit the GOP race and run indy to help Hitlery win the WH like Perot did for her husband).

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-17   23:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Stoner (#10)

Have heard some say he is not friendly to the 2nd Amendment. That would be a deal breaker for me.

Here are some quotes of Trump's statements from 2000 and from 2011.

OnTheIssues.org: Donald Trump on gun control

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-17   23:46:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#12)

Well he says he opposes gun control, but supports an "assault weapons ban".

Sorry, but that is ying & yang. No sale with me!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-06-17   23:53:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative (#3)

Trump is a shill for Hillary. Notice that he readily ridiculed, attacked and criticized other Rep candidates, and even Obama, but did not say a disparaging word about Hillary. He has a deal with the Clintons. I don't know what the Clintons' side of the bargain is (no doubt money is involved) but firmly believe that Trump's is to wreak havoc among the Reps to leave a very weakened nominee and divided REP electorate to face Hillary and the Obama machine.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-18   0:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Stoner (#13)

Well he says he opposes gun control, but supports an "assault weapons ban".

Sorry, but that is ying & yang. No sale with me!

He would fit right in with most any Blue state though. And a surprising number of NRA members also don't like scary black guns.

Some gunners think the AWB threat is long gone. I think it might be revived more quickly than people realize.

In fairness to Trump, we should recall that Bush favored the AWB too and asked Congress to send him a law to sign. It never happened but that doesn't mean Bush wasn't willing.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-18   0:19:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: SOSO (#14)

Trump is a shill for Hillary. Notice that he readily ridiculed, attacked and criticized other Rep candidates, and even Obama, but did not say a disparaging word about Hillary. He has a deal with the Clintons. I don't know what the Clintons' side of the bargain is (no doubt money is involved) but firmly believe that Trump's is to wreak havoc among the Reps to leave a very weakened nominee and divided REP electorate to face Hillary and the Obama machine.

I'm just as suspicious, as are many others.

OTOH, The Donald is just a big ol' loose cannon with an ego bigger than Manhattan. So who knows what direction he'll take. Maybe not even he does. Maybe he's just exploring the political sphere, looking for whatever opportunities might arise. He is something of a predator type.

Hell, it could all be some pretext for building his name brand overseas so he can attract investors for a multi-billion dollar Caribbean resort named something like Trump Island.

With Trump, you just never know for sure. And that that is the one fact we do know with certainty is just part of Trump's own media strategy, how he makes the media dance to his tune, even when they hate him and try not to fall for his tricks as they have so many times before.

Despite all Trump's media savvy and New York-ish self-promotion, The Donald is not likely to sell that well to GOP voters in early primary states. The states where Trump could do well come pretty late in the primary season.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-18   0:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TooConservative (#15)

" It never happened but that doesn't mean Bush wasn't willing. "

Yep, and it cost him a lot of support.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-06-18   10:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: TooConservative (#15)

" Some gunners think the AWB threat is long gone. I think it might be revived more quickly than people realize. "

I think those "gunners" are naive.

I agree, it might be revived. And the fact that Trump has expressed his being in favor of one, along with his praise of Billy Bob, and witch Hitlery, is a very big black eye for him. He started off sounding good, now he has shot himself in both feet.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-06-18   10:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Stoner (#17)

Yep, and it cost him a lot of support.

I'm glad I'm not the only one recalling it.

Sometimes it seems like all this stuff just goes down the memory hole. But this is how they keep bringing this stuff back, over and over, until they ram it through. We've seen this with the gun issue many times, now with the sodomy marriage issues and the transgendering stuff they've launched now as the Left's new offensive on American society.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-18   10:58:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: SOSO (#14)

Trump is a shill for Hillary. Notice that he readily ridiculed, attacked and criticized other Rep candidates, and even Obama, but did not say a disparaging word about Hillary.

I haven't been noticing that. I say him call her a criminal.

Your analysis is off.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-26   11:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Stoner (#10)

With this, and his saying Billy Bob was his favorite past president, he is not warming me up to him.

You probably know now that it wasn't his favortite past President.

Looks like you have warmed up to him now. It is interesting to see who didn't support him and now does.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-26   11:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TooConservative (#0)

You are as obsessed with anti-Trump articles as Deckard is with his anti- cop articles.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-26   11:14:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: misterwhite, tooconservative (#22)

You are as obsessed with anti-Trump articles as Deckard is with his anti- cop articles.

The sage wannabe TC has staked his credibility on Trump quitting by the thrid debate.

We will see if TC is a wise sage or a false prophet. Or maybe just politically clueless.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-26   11:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#23)

"The sage wannabe TC has staked his credibility on Trump quitting by the thrid debate."

Based on what? A WAG.

"We will see if TC is a wise sage or a false prophet. Or maybe just politically clueless."

More like wishful thinking.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-26   11:38:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TooConservative (#0) (Edited)

Trump 2007: Hillary’s “very, very capable"

She's capable of running but if she wins is she capable of doing anything but running the country into the ground. The best outcome we can hope for in this entire scene is that Iran will atom bomb the Democrap and Repubican conventions next year and wipe out the terrible curse of these all these God damned empty-headed two-faced self-obsessed politicians that have become a major affliction upon the soul of this country.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-26   12:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: misterwhite, A K A Stone (#24)

I'm just wondering why you two want to revive a 10-day-old minor thread.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-26   12:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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