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Title: WHY IS AMERICA MOVING LEFT?
Source: breitbart.com
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... 01/why-is-america-moving-left/
Published: Jun 1, 2015
Author: THOMAS D. WILLIAMS
Post Date: 2015-06-01 18:39:56 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 2219
Comments: 15

Statistics from the most recent Gallup poll indicate that Americans’ moral views have become increasingly liberal over the past 14 years, with U.S. citizens tending to approve of behavior they would have deemed immoral or sinful just a generation ago.

The biggest change percentage-wise has been in Americans’ positive moral evaluation of polygamy and human cloning, both of which more than doubled since first measured by Gallup in the early 2000s. In 2003, a mere 7% thought that polygamy was morally acceptable, whereas in 2015, the figure has grown to 16%. Similarly, the recent poll found that 15% of Americans now accept human cloning, up from just 7% of the population in 2001.

Approval of gay and lesbian relations has also soared in the same time period, with an absolute majority of 63% of the population now seeing nothing wrong with this behavior, as opposed to 40% in 2001—an increase of 23 percent.

In 2001, a majority of 53% of U.S. citizens already approved of fornication, and this group has continued to swell also, with 68% now viewing sex between unmarried people as morally unproblematic. The study found, in fact, that in nearly all of the 16 categories compared, Americans’ moral views had shifted left, with the exception of only two: the death penalty and scientific experimentation on animals.

Unsurprisingly, the leftward shift in Americans’ moral views has been matched by a corresponding loss of religiosity. A recent Pew Center study on religion in the United States found that despite America’s reputation as one of the more religious countries in the world, it has experienced a notable dip in religiosity in the past seven years.

The religious category to take the biggest hit was Christianity, especially “mainline” Christianity, which fell by 3.4 percent. Though the United States is still a statistically “Christian nation,” with about 70% identifying themselves as followers of Jesus, it is markedly less so than even a generation ago.

Evangelicalism, on the other hand, saw significantly smaller losses than mainline Protestant churches, dropping less than one percent of its adherents during this same period. Those identifying as Evangelicals fell from 26.3 to 25.4% for a total loss in membership of just 0.9%.

Though it is impossible to establish a strict causal relationship between the two phenomena of moral liberalism and declining religiosity, the correlation between them is still striking.

What may not seem immediately apparent is why as Americans become increasingly progressive, they are abandoning liberal religious denominations in favor of conservative ones.

One theory, advanced by Arthur E. Farnsley II, a professor of religious studies at Indiana University, is that the more churches resemble society at large in terms of their moral teachings and understanding of the meaning of human existence, the less relevant they are. Why continue to attend church services to hear the same message you get from reigning culture? Religion only makes a difference when it offers an alternative account of reality, distinguishable from secular culture.

It is, in fact, the countercultural religious groups that are holding on to their membership.

Farnsley suggests, therefore, that the more liberal religious groups will continue to lose members and influence “because they are already on the modernist side, meaning many of their core values are expressed in other institutions, including government.”

Much of the decline in membership for mainstream Christianity seems to be the result of a loss of recognizable Christian identity in those churches. Four particular phenomena stand out in this trend away from Christian tradition.

In the first place, mainstream Christian churches have shifted focus from the worship of God to social justice issues. As churches have moved away from a God- centered vision to a human-centered approach, they have come to resemble many other philanthropic institutions with no particularly religious character. As churches look more and more like humanitarian associations, the allegiance of their members has dropped correspondingly.

A second discernible phenomenon has been the unmooring of mainstream Christianity from its biblical roots. Many Christians seem to find Christ’s moral teachings increasingly embarrassing in an age that is tolerant of virtually any consensual human behavior. Abandoning a more literal approach to biblical morality, many have reinterpreted even the clearest biblical doctrines to make them resemble societal trends. As sociological criteria have replaced biblical principles as a moral guide, the Bible has been reduced to a source of “spiritual inspiration.” Having lost their belief in the power of the Bible to teach moral truth, many have drifted away from Christianity altogether.

A third development has been a shift in emphasis from eternity to the here and now. Traditionally, Christianity placed greater importance on the “salvation of souls” than on the immediate benefits of religion, meaning that more attention was given to the “eternal truths” of final judgment, heaven and hell, than to the psychological rewards of faith. As mainstream Christians have abandoned talk of eternity in favor of secular concerns, they have found that “secular” solutions seem better suited to meet their needs.

A final trend among mainstream Christian churches has been a progressive lowering of the moral bar, seemingly out of fear of appearing “judgmental” or “hypocritical.” Confusing judgmentalism with the ability to tell right from wrong, many Christians have moved in the direction of withdrawing disapproval from all but the most egregious sins. The lower the bar, the fewer fail to get over it: “I’m okay. You’re okay.” Similarly, some have confused hypocrisy with a simple failure to live up to one’s moral ideals, and have embraced the facile solution of chucking their ideals. Hypocrisy, in fact, becomes impossible when one no longer endorses any moral standards.

What all this means for the future is uncertain, but there are no signs of a reversal of the liberalizing trend any time soon. It seems, rather, to be gaining momentum.

The message for churches, however, seems relatively clear. For those who wish to hold on to their members and possibly even attract new ones, a recovery of a clearer Christian identity is indispensable, even at the risk of appearing countercultural.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

In 2001, a majority of 53% of U.S. citizens already approved of fornication, and this group has continued to swell also, with 68% now viewing sex between unmarried people as morally unproblematic.

The Gallup poll & study is flawed, limiting the percentages of opinion to just the population group of US citizens. Why back in the beginning of tyme, with Adam & Eve (citizens of the Garden of Eden), their unabashed opinion was 100% ... so the world is ever evolving; of course, we have a ton of "begats" later written in the Holy Bible, too.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-06-01   20:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#1)

America is moving left because both major political parties are moving in that direction.

Used to be Republicans offered at least token opposition.

As it stands now - most Republicans are just as liberal as their Democratic counterparts.

Both parties are pushing a pro-illegal, globalist agenda.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-06-01   20:40:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#2)

America is moving left because both major political parties are moving in that direction.

Not a chance in HELL. The demographics are changing drastically; with demographic swings are cultural and social mores that direct political changes; not the other way around.

Used to be Republicans offered at least token opposition.

I don't believe it for a moment. Good ol' Abe Lincoln created the GOP manifest ... there is war everywhere to this very day and the stupid US Citizenry pays every dime.

As it stands now - most Republicans are just as liberal as their Democratic counterparts.

'Tis true from day one of this nation and before the invention of the GOP; their predecessors, the Know Nothing Party and the Whigs were caressing annihilation of the US Constitution to include the Bill of Rights.

Neither political party cares about the US citizenry other than to smash the citizens into smithereens with liberal policies destroying not just our personal dignities but the total destruction of our natural rights.

Both parties are pushing a pro-illegal, globalist agenda.
The bastards that run this nation want to simplify the complex issues that the US Constitution creates by intended design. The original goals of the nation were to ensure local representation of government; it was easy when only a few million Americans were capable to vote; today, it is hundreds of millions and the issues are difficult to manage hence streamlining of government authority; centralization and departmentalization and capturing world "buy-in" authority from partner nations. The UN was created by the USA, btw.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-06-01   21:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin (#0) (Edited)

WHY IS AMERICA MOVING LEFT?

There is nobody in a position of authority to oppose it. The forces of the left have consistently out-thought and outstrategized the right for 80 years. The retreat into the stern theatrical mythological authoritarism of religion is not adequate to refute the left.

rlk  posted on  2015-06-01   21:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin, Y'ALL (#0)

America is moving left because big govt advocates like gatlin are temporarily in control....

fee.org The Rise of Government and the Decline of Morality

The recent financial crisis has expanded the power of government. Tea parties have revealed the disillusion of millions of Americans with the rise of government and the decline of morality. The crisis has damaged, unfairly, the vision of market liberalism. It is essential, therefore, to reexamine and articulate the principles of a free society and to understand the danger to liberty that the new progressivism poses.

Since this essay was first presented at the historic Chautauqua Institution in 1995, the federal government has grown in size and scope. Today Congress spends nearly $4 trillion, the federal share of GDP has risen to 25 percent, and the U.S. debt exceeds $12 trillion. Washington has bailed out financial, insurance, and automobile firms while also taking control of the mortgage market. We are now more dependent on government for our health care, pensions, and future than ever before.

Politicians thrive on using other people’s money and promising free lunches. The growth of government has politicized life and weakened the nation’s moral fabric. Government intervention—in the economy, the community, and society—has increased the payoff from political action and reduced the scope of private action. People have become more dependent on the State and have sacrificed freedom for a false sense of security.

One cannot blame government for all of society’s ills, but there is no doubt that economic and social legislation, especially since the mid-1960s, has had a negative impact on individual responsibility. Individuals lose their moral bearing when they become dependent on government. Subsidies, bailouts, and other aspects of the “nanny state” socialize risk and reduce individual accountability. The internal moral compass that normally guides individual behavior will no longer function when the State undermines incentives for moral conduct and blurs the distinction between right and wrong.

More government spending is not the answer to our social, economic, or cultural problems. The task is not to reinvent government or to give politics meaning; the task is to limit government and revitalize civil society. Government meddling will only make matters worse.

If we want to help the disadvantaged, we do not do so by making poverty pay, restricting markets, prohibiting educational freedom, discouraging thrift, and sending the message that the principal function of government is to take care of us. We do so by eliminating social engineering and all kinds of welfare, cultivating free markets, and returning to our moral heritage.

At the beginning of the twentieth century there was no welfare state as we know it. Fraternal and religious organizations flourished. Total government spending was less than 10 percent of GDP, and the federal government’s powers were limited.

Immigrants were faced with material poverty, true, but they were not wretched. There was a certain moral order in everyday life, which began in the home and spread to the outside community. Baltimore’s Polish immigrants provide a good example. Like other immigrants, they arrived with virtually nothing except the desire to work hard and to live in a free country. Their ethos of liberty and responsibility is evident in a 1907 housing report describing the Polish community in Fells Point:

A remembered Saturday evening inspection of five apartments in a house [on] Thames Street, with their whitened floors and shining cook stoves, with the dishes gleaming on the neatly ordered shelves, the piles of clean clothing laid out for Sunday, and the general atmosphere of preparation for the Sabbath, suggested standards that would not have disgraced a Puritan housekeeper.

Yet, according to the report, a typical Polish home consisted “of a crowded one- or two-room apartment, occupied by six or eight people, and located two floors above the common water supply.”

Even though wages were low, Polish Americans sacrificed to save and pooled their resources to help each other by founding building and loan associations, as Linda Shopes noted in The Baltimore Book. By 1929, 60 percent of Polish families were homeowners—without any government assistance.

Dependent Not Self-Reliant

Today, after spending billions of dollars on anti-poverty programs since the mid- 1960s, Baltimore and other American cities are struggling for survival. Self- reliance has given way to dependence and a loss of respect for persons and property.

The inner-city landscape is cluttered with crime-infested public housing and public schools that are mostly dreadful, dangerous, and amoral—where one learns more about survival than virtue. And the way to survive is not to take responsibility for one’s own life and family—which government intervention makes more difficult through occupational licensing, the minimum wage, and other impediments to self-help—but to vote for politicians who have the power to keep the welfare checks rolling.

Dysfunctional behavior now seems almost normal as people are shot daily and births out of wedlock are common. (The replacement of Aid to Families with Dependent Children with Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, as a result of the welfare reform during the Clinton administration, was a bipartisan recognition of the perverse incentives under AFDC. ) In addition to the moral decay, high tax rates and regulatory overkill have driven businesses and taxpayers out of the city and slowed economic development. It’s not a pretty picture.

In sum, the growth of government and the rise of the “transfer society” have undermined the work ethic and substituted an ethos of dependence for an ethos of liberty and responsibility. Virtue and civil society have suffered in the process, as has economic progress.

The Founding Fathers recognized that the nature of government is force, and they sought to limit its use to the protection of life, liberty, and property. Markets, both formal and informal, could then be relied on to bring about economic prosperity and social harmony.

In a free society the relationship between the individual and the State is simple. Thomas Jefferson said it well: “Man is not made for the State but the State for man, and it derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.” The fact that the Founders never fully realized their principles should not divert attention from the importance of those principles for a free society and for safeguarding the dignity of all people.

From a classical-liberal perspective, the primary functions of government are to secure “the blessings of liberty” and “establish justice”—not by mandating outcomes, but by setting minimum standards of just conduct and leaving individuals free to pursue their own values within the law. The “sum of good government,” wrote Jefferson, is to “restrain men from injuring one another,” to “leave them . . . free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement,” and to “not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned.”

The Jeffersonian philosophy of good government was widely shared in nineteenth- century America. Indeed, Jeffersonian democracy became embodied in what John O’Sullivan, editor of the United States Magazine and Democratic Review, called the “voluntary principle” or the “principle of freedom.” In 1837 he wrote, “The best government is that which governs least . . . . [Government] should be confined to the administration of justice, for the protection of the natural equal rights of the citizen, and the preservation of the social order. In all other respects, the voluntary principle, the principle of freedom . . . affords the true golden rule.”

During the nineteenth century most Americans took it for granted that the federal government has no constitutional authority to engage in public charity (to legislate forced transfers to help some individuals at the expense of others). It was generally understood that the powers of the federal government are delegated, enumerated, and therefore limited, and that there is no explicit authority for the welfare state. From a classical-liberal, or market-liberal, perspective, then, the role of government is not to “do good at the taxpayers’ expense,” but “to prevent harm.”

The general-welfare clause of the Constitution cannot be used to justify the welfare state. That clause simply states that the federal government, in exercising its enumerated powers, should exercise them to “promote the general welfare,” not to promote particular interests. The clause was never meant to be an open invitation to expand government far beyond its primary role of night watchman.

Yet “Progressives” who sought to use government to do good (with other people’s money) overtook the vision of limited government. “Public charity” gradually became the norm. Unlike private charity, however, government transfers always involve coercion or the threat of force. Doing good with other people’s money without their consent is not a virtue but a vice—or, rather, a crime.

The transformation of the framers’ constitutional vision began with the Progressive Era, accelerated with the New Deal, and mushroomed with the Great Society’s war on poverty, which created new entitlements and enshrined welfare rights. Today, more than half the federal budget is spent on entitlements—the largest being Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. The newly passed health insurance legislation will add fuel to the fire of the welfare state. The $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities in Social Security and Medicare will place a heavy burden on future generations.

Freedom from Responsibility

During the transition from limited government to the welfare state, freedom has come to mean freedom from responsibility. Such freedom, however, is not true freedom but a form of tyranny, which creates moral and social chaos.

The modern liberal’s vision of government is based on a twisted understanding of rights and justice—an understanding that clashes with the principle of freedom inherent in the higher law of the Constitution. Welfare rights, or entitlements, are “imperfect rights,” or pseudo-rights; they can be exercised only by violating what legal scholars call the “perfect right” to private property. Rights to welfare—whether to food stamps, public housing, health care, or business subsidies —create a legal obligation to help others. In contrast, the right to property, understood in the Lockean sense, merely obligates individuals to refrain from taking what is not theirs. For the modern liberal, justice refers to “social (or distributive) justice”—an amorphous term, subject to all sorts of abuse if made the goal of public policy, as F. A. Hayek has aptly noted in The Constitution of Liberty and other writings. As a norm for action, the concept of “social justice” leads to uncertainty and competition for government favors. The result is bigger government and corruption. The cost of the pursuit of social justice is the loss of freedom. Instead of creating certainty by limiting the range of government actions under a just rule of law, the modern “liberal” State has produced discord. Indeed, when the role of government is to do good with other people’s money, there is no end to the mischief government can cause.

Many Americans seem to have lost sight of the idea that the role of government is not to instill values but to protect those rights that are consistent with a society of free and responsible individuals. Everyone has a right to pursue happiness, but no one has the right to do so by depriving others of their liberty and their property.

When democracy overreaches, there is no end to the demands on the public purse, and the power of government grows. The Founding Fathers sought to create a republic with limited government, not an unlimited democracy in which the “winners” are allowed to impose their will and vision of the good society on everyone else. In such a system politics becomes a fight of all against all, like the Hobbesian jungle, and nearly everyone is a net loser as taxes rise, deficits soar, and economic growth slows.

Bankrupt in Every Way

Most voters recognize that the welfare state is inefficient and has a built-in incentive to perpetuate poverty. It should be common sense that when government promises something for nothing, demand will grow and so will the welfare state. That has clearly been the case with health care spending under Medicaid and Medicare—and it will be the case with Obamacare. For all the money spent on fighting poverty since 1965, the official poverty rate has remained roughly the same, about 14 percent. Government waste is only part of the problem; the welfare state is also intellectually, morally, and constitutionally bankrupt.

Intellectually bankrupt. It is intellectually bankrupt because increasing the scope of market exchange, not welfare, is the viable way to alleviate poverty. The best way to help the poor is not by redistributing income but by generating economic growth and removing impediments to self-help and mutual aid. Poverty rates fell more before the war on poverty when economic growth was higher.

The failure of communism shows that any attenuation of private property rights weakens markets and reduces choice. Individual welfare is lowered as a result. The welfare state has attenuated private property rights and weakened the social fabric. When people look to government to provide retirement income, health care, mortgage guarantees, and various business subsidies, private initiative gives way to collectivist thinking. Economic decisions become politicized, and people lean more and more on government.

Morally bankrupt. In addition to being inefficient and intellectually bankrupt, the welfare state is morally bankrupt. In a free society people are entitled to what they own, not to what others own. Yet under the pretense of morality politicians and advocacy groups have created rights out of thin air. The rights to education, health care, housing, a minimum wage, and other “necessities” are now deemed sacrosanct. Politicians have become the high priests of the new State religion of welfare rights and self-proclaimed “benefactors” of humanity. If there is a problem—any problem—Congress is there to solve it, regardless of whether the Constitution gives it the power to do so.

The truth is, “the emperor has no clothes.” Politicians pretend to do good, but they do so through coercion not consent. Politicians put on their moral garb, but there is really nothing there. Government benevolence, in reality, is a naked taking. Public charity is forced charity, or what the great French liberal Frédéric Bastiat called “legal plunder.”

Constitutionally bankrupt. The welfare state is also constitutionally bankrupt; it has no basis in the framers’ constitution of liberty. By changing the role of government from a limited one of protecting persons and property to an unlimited one of achieving “social justice,” Congress, the courts, and presidents have broken their oaths to uphold the Constitution.

In contrast Congressman Davy Crockett, who was elected in 1827, told his colleagues, “We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right to appropriate a dollar of the public money.”

Polls show that most Americans distrust government and that more young people believe in UFOs than in the future of Social Security. Those sentiments express a growing skepticism about the modern welfare state. President Obama’s election does not mean most Americans have abandoned the principles of the Constitution and are in a rush to move toward a socialist state. What can be done to meet the challenge of safeguarding freedom?

What Can Be Done

First and foremost, we need to expose the intellectual, constitutional, and moral bankruptcy of the welfare state. We need to change the way we think about government and restore an ethos of liberty and responsibility. The political process will then be ready to begin rolling back the welfare state.

Although Americans have grown accustomed to the welfare state, its disappearance would strengthen the nation’s moral fabric and reinvigorate civil society. We should end the parasitic State—not because we want to harm the poor, but because we want to help them help themselves.

The federal government has become bloated and unable to perform even its rudimentary functions. It is awash with debt and is endangering America’s future. The collapse of communism and the failure of socialism should have been warning enough that it is time to change direction.

It is time to limit the size and scope of government and to get the State out of the business of charity. Private virtue, responsibility, and benevolence can then grow naturally along with civil society—just as they did more than 150 years ago when Alexis de Tocqueville wrote in his classic Democracy in America:

The role of government in a free society is not to legislate morality—an impossible and dangerous goal—or even to “empower people”; the role of government is to allow people the freedom to grow into responsible citizens and to exercise their inalienable rights.

The modern liberal’s idea of “good government” has divorced freedom from responsibility and created a false sense of morality. Good intentions have led to bad policy. The moral state of the union can be improved by following two simple rules: “Do no harm” and “Do good at your own expense.” Those rules are perfectly consistent in the private moral universe. It is only when the second rule is replaced by “Do good at the expense of others” that social harmony turns into discord as interest groups compete for scarce resources at the public trough.

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tpaine  posted on  2015-06-01   22:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tpaine, tater (#5)

America is moving left because big govt advocates like gatlin [tater, spuds, Mr. potatoe-head, smashed stuff] are temporarily in control....

20 trillion in national debt paid out to do nothing limited function US government pensioners as tater peelin' for a twenty years in the Air Force barracks for doing nothing? Say what?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-06-01   22:09:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#6)

tater peelin' for a twenty years in the Air Force barracks for doing nothing? Say what?

Bear in mind that he CLAIMS to have spent 20 years in the USAF. --- The way he acts here, I doubt it...

tpaine  posted on  2015-06-01   22:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tpaine, tater (#7)

Spuds doesn't recognize he/she is THE PROBLEM and not the solution. While seeking US government socialism romancing the US Air Force for some sort of stipend from US taxpayers for 20 years o'potatoe skin peelin', he has raped the US tax payer.

He is just another member, albeit a weird member, of the Kanary Klub Klan.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-06-01   22:35:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#0)

Because the process of demoralization was strategically successful

"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization".
 
It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism. "
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)
 

VxH  posted on  2015-06-01   23:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: tpaine (#7)

Bear in mind that he CLAIMS to have spent 20 years in the USAF.

That is not true, I did not make that CLAIM!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-02   0:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#1)

As the soul is the life of the body; so is God the life of the soul. As the body expires when it loses the soul, so does the soul expire when it loses God. The loss of God is the death of the soul: the loss of the soul the death of the body. The death of the body is necessary; the death of the soul voluntary.

Augustine of Hippo

And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined* in a furnace of clay, purified seven times. Psalm 12:6

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-06-02   2:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#2)

Used to be Republicans offered at least token opposition.

When???

Under Progressive Teddy Roosevelt? Moderate Dwight Eisenhower? Big government expansionists like Nixon and the Bushes? Bob Dole? John McCain? When???

Perhaps only under Reagan. But as soon as he left, the Bush wing took control again.

cranko  posted on  2015-06-02   12:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin (#0)

WHY IS AMERICA MOVING LEFT?

For the same reason that any object - once tossed up into the air - falls back to earth.

Or the same reason water finds its level. In other words, it's the natural order of things.

Unless it's met with some sort of resistance, the natural inclination of any government is to grow; become corrupt, and cause its subjects to lose their freedoms.

Just as sure as the law of gravity.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-06-02   12:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tpaine (#5)

You wrote all that and you did not mention how so called conservative principles the GOP has been pushing for the longest time like in giving financial institutions less regulations, etc seem not to have worked.

Modern Republican politics and ideology do not resemble Eisenhower era Republicanism except in maybe hostility to commies (and there is no commie military bloc against the West anymore and Red China is now a free trade partner - free trade being a Republican pro business ideal).

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-02   23:29:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Rufus T Firefly, Pericles (#13)

And that people are naturally lazy and look for the easy way out hence turning towards the government lies.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-03   6:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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