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Title: Edward Snowden talks ethics of whistleblowing
Source: The Stanford Daily
URL Source: http://www.stanforddaily.com/2015/0 ... alks-ethics-of-whistleblowing/
Published: May 18, 2015
Author: Victor Xu
Post Date: 2015-05-22 10:28:57 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 2038
Comments: 17

Edward Snowden, former NSA infrastructure analyst turned whistleblower, spoke on May 15 to Cubberley Auditorium to discuss the philosophical tensions of whistleblowing and government surveillance. The 2015 Symbolic Systems Distinguished Speaker, Snowden spoke via video conference from Moscow.

Professors of philosophy John Perry and Kenneth Taylor moderated the discussion, part of which also served as a recording of “Philosophy Talk,” a nationally-syndicated radio program which grapples with problems in philosophy and how philosophy relates to our everyday lives.

After brief introductions by Perry and Taylor, Snowden addressed the dilemmas in whistleblowing and his thoughts on his situation. Taylor asked whether he sees himself as a hero or a traitor, considering the various depictions presented by the government and media.

“This is a really common question that’s asked a lot,” he said. “I think it’s got one of the least interesting answers. I don’t think about myself or how I will be perceived. It’s not about me. It’s about us. I’m not a hero. I’m not a traitor. I’m an ordinary American like anyone else in the room. I’m just trying to do the best that I can.”

Snowden, who currently resides in Russia under asylum, proceeded to discuss the cost-benefit analysis that whistleblowers must consider before leaking information.

“I certainly paid for it,” he said. “I lived in Hawaii, had a wonderful girlfriend, a home, a happy family, a successful career. To walk away from that it does require a real commitment to something…I think the driving principle is that you have to have a greater commitment to justice than a fear of the law.”

Perry and Taylor asked whether Snowden was reluctant to “break the law.” Discussing his personal motivations for leaking the NSA documents, Snowden said he was motivated more by “self-interest” than altruism, as he felt that he would improve societal wellbeing by revealing and ultimately dismantling the NSA’s metadata collection programs. He added that he feels there are moral obligations to act when the law no longer reflects the morality of the society it governs.

“When legality and morality begin to separate, we all have a moral obligation to do something about that,” he said. “When I saw that the work I was doing and all my colleagues were doing [was] being subversive not only to our intentions but contrary to the public’s intent, I felt an obligation to act.”

Snowden spoke at length about the institutional failures in the U.S. government that allowed for the NSA activities in question to occur.

“The courts were frozen out, the majority of Congress was frozen out, the populace was frozen out,” he said.

He added that he attempted to reintroduce this system of checks and balances—which failed in the case of the NSA—in his own methodology for releasing the documents. By involving conflicting parties in the press and the government, Snowden said he hoped to serve the public interest: bringing attention to privacy issues while also mitigating security risks.

“I never published a single document on my own because I believe that the model, the ideal of American government is actually quite a shrewd one,” he said. “I tried to emulate the model of checks and balance. Instead of making a unilateral decision, that ‘The world must know,’ I worked with the free press, institutions that we trust, American journalists.”

At various points, Snowden expressed concern that the world as a whole is moving toward increased government surveillance at the expense of privacy, citing recent measures in France among other nations. He cautioned against acceptance of this trend and frequent justifications used by governments, such as heightened security. Citing the NSA leaks, he said that there was no clear benefit, while the privacy costs were great.

Snowden also addressed several issues related to the Internet, including expectations of privacy on the web, Chelsea Manning’s role in leaking confidential government documents to WikiLeaks and new liberation technologies.

“The Internet goes into our homes and also into the confines of our mind. That’s where we confide in friends, that’s where we express ourselves, that’s where we develop our thoughts. It’s where we decide what we believe in and who we want to be.”

On the role of WikiLeaks, he said, “Much like with whistleblowing, if all other parts of the system fails, there’s a fallback [in WikiLeaks]. There’s an ultimate choice that can provide real, unvarnished truth in the most extreme circumstances.”

Snowden recommended two major policy changes: ending mass surveillance and better protecting whistleblowers. On the first point, he cited the “infective” nature of surveillance projects and the ineffectuality of the NSA’s data collection in producing any concrete security outcome. On the second point, he argued for creating independent agencies staffed by civil liberties advocates to handle cases like his.

“If I had taken these documents to Congress, I would’ve gone to jail,” Snowden said, alluding to the massive costs facing whistleblowers.

After the first hour, the “Philosophy Talk” segment concluded. Snowden stayed for another half hour to answer questions from the audience, with topics ranging from his personal life in Moscow to the working environment within the NSA.

Snowden ended the discussion with a hope that he might one day return to the United States, although he said he was not exactly optimistic at the chances.

“If there’s any question, if the opportunity was presented, I would of course come home,” he said. “Because that’s where I live, that’s where my family is.”

The full recording of “Philosophy Talk” will be available the week of July 3 on radio stations nationwide.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Edward Snowden talks ethics...

Snowden knows about ethics....he has moral principles?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   10:33:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin (#1)

Most Americans value privacy and oppose mass surveillance.

The minority who don’t – and who think spying is okay because they have “nothing to hide” –  are grossly misinformed (and don’t know that spying is meant to crush dissent and consolidate powernot stop terrorism).

Edward Snowden noted today in a Q&A on Reddit:

Some might say “I don’t care if they violate my privacy; I’ve got nothing to hide.” Help them understand that they are misunderstanding the fundamental nature of human rights. Nobody needs to justify why they “need” a right: the burden of justification falls on the one seeking to infringe upon the right. But even if they did, you can’t give away the rights of others because they’re not useful to you. More simply, the majority cannot vote away the natural rights of the minority.

But even if they could, help them think for a moment about what they’re saying.

Arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say.

Amen.

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-22   13:14:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#3)

I cherish my privacy and I love my safety.

Walking the fine line between the two for a trade-off is touchy.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   14:38:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin (#4) (Edited)

A much wiser man than you once said:

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase
a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Operation 40  posted on  2015-05-22   15:49:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Operation 40 (#5)

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase
a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety ~ Benjamin Franklin

OMG, where did you dig that one up from? That BF quote has long been denounced as one of America’s favorite “liberal” phrases. It has been sent through the political spin machine and polished by liberals so often that it has turned into a Frankenstein of sorts. So much so, that it is rendered inaccurate and far from its original intention. You are one of the few to get the quote worded correctly….there are many variations floating around. That quote was the clarion call siren song of the hippie anti-war protesters and now it has become the mass online banner protest for those who are against the NSA’s surveillance program and join in the fight against internet and phone monitoring.

Few people have any idea where the words come from or what BF was really saying when he wrote them. You are obviously one of those. The quote came from a letter BF wrote on behalf of the Penn Assembly to the colonial governor. It was over funding for security on the frontier and one in which the assembly desired to tax the lands of the Penn family. The letter was never about liberty, it was all about taxes and the ability to raise money for defense against French and Indian attacks. If you will look up the original letter, you will find the text that surrounds the quote shows it’s clearly about money. Actually, there wasn’t much about liberty in his entire letter.

And now I have made you a smarter person than you were when you posted the quote to me. And old Ben (as we intellects like to refer to him as), may have been a little smarter than I. But if he were, it was only by a little….a very little bit.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   18:20:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#6)

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety ~ Benjamin Franklin

OMG, where did you dig that one up? ---------- You are one of the few to get the quote worded correctly… ---- Few people have any idea where the words come from or what BF was really saying when he wrote them. ---- The quote came from a letter BF wrote on behalf of the Penn Assembly to the colonial governor. It was over funding for security on the frontier and ----- it was all about taxes and the ability to raise money for defense against French and Indian attacks.

Your unsupported opinions were redacted, leaving the point of Franklin's quote apropo.

And now I have made you a smarter person than you were when you posted the quote to me. And old Ben (as we intellects like to refer to him as), may have been a little smarter than I. But if he were, it was only by a little….a very little bit. ---- Gatlin

Amusing fluff by LF's biggest ego. -- Thanks for the laugh.

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