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Title: Feds Spent $100 Billion on Food Assistance Last Year
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Published: May 21, 2015
Author: BY: Elizabeth Harrington May 20, 2015
Post Date: 2015-05-21 07:35:19 by GrandIsland
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Views: 32222
Comments: 108

109,930,090 Americans participated in overlapping programs

The federal government spent $100 billion providing food assistance to Americans last year, according to the Government Accountability Office (GAO).

The lion’s share of spending comes from the food stamp program, which gave benefits to an average 46 million Americans in 2014, at a cost of $74.6 billion, according to a testimonyfrom the GAO’s Director of Education, Workforce, and Income Security Kay E. Brown before the House Subcommittee on Nutrition Wednesday.

The national school lunch program was second, costing $11.3 billion, followed by the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) at $7.1 billion.

Other spending included $1.9 billion for nutrition assistance for Puerto Rico, and $10.7 million for the “Special Milk Program.”

Brown said there is a potential for overlap and “inefficient use of federal funds” due to the government’s “complex network of 18 food assistance programs, administered by three federal agencies,” which are unsure how effective the programs are.

“In 2010, research GAO reviewed suggested that participation in seven of these programs was associated with positive outcomes, such as improving nutrition among low-income households,” Brown said. “Little was known about the effectiveness of the remaining 11.”

The GAO provided a list of the 18 federal programs, which together served a total 109.9 million Americans in 2014. The list only provides the total number of participants for each program, and does not take into account the potential for individuals to participate in more than one program.

Brown said the GAO urged the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) address potential overlaps in their programs. The USDA commissioned a study on redundant programs in 2013, and then “decided to study the impact of participation in multiple food assistance programs on the nutritional status of participants.”

“While such a study will provide important information, it does not address GAO’s recommendation,” Brown said. “GAO continues to believe that further action is needed.”

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#1. To: All (#0)

Its a perfect union. Big daddy gov manufacturing sheeple/voters... and what disgusts me most, my peers so quick to live in servitude.

Feeding the wild animals causes dependency... and of course, any animal will take it for free instead of hunting for it.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   7:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: GrandIsland (#1)

We hear about how social security is always in crisis and is going to go bankrupt, yet we never hear that welfare has a money shortage.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-21   8:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GrandIsland (#0)

The federal government spent $100 billion providing food assistance to Americans last year, according to the Government Accountability Office (GAO).

What I want to know is how much went to Veterans and how much went to illegal aliens.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-05-21   9:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Dead Culture Watch (#2)

We hear about how social security is always in crisis and is going to go bankrupt, yet we never hear that welfare has a money shortage.

Exactly... and social service budgets are bigger in counties than public safety and highway... that's a huge problem.

It's in fact, the biggest problem our economy faces.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   9:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: GrandIsland (#1)

There are 47 million Americans reported to be on food stamps.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-21   9:15:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#5)

There are 47 million Americans reported to be on food stamps.

Yes but, O'bunghole states that global warming is our greatest threat. lol

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   9:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: GrandIsland (#6)

" O'bunghole states that global warming is our greatest threat. "

WRONG !!

O'bunghole, his fellow travelers, their bosses, and those that vote for them are our greatest threats.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-05-21   9:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GrandIsland (#0) (Edited)

food stamp program, which gave benefits to an average 46 million Americans in 2014, at a cost of $74.6 billion

Let me see.

$74.6 billion / 46 million = $1621.73

$1621.73 / 365.25 days = $4.44 a day.

This is definitely too much gruel!

A Pole  posted on  2015-05-21   10:04:43 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GrandIsland (#6)

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-21   10:20:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland, Dead Culture Watch, BobCeleste, Gatlin, A Pole, Vicomte13 (#1)

food stamp program, which gave benefits to an average 46 million Americans in 2014, at a cost of $74.6 billion Let me see.

$74.6 billion / 46 million = $1621.73

$1621.73 / 365.25 days = $4.44 a day.

This is definitely too much gruel!

Having Americans who claim they are the true Christians in this country openly calling for not feeding their own people is pretty much the sign of the end times and that they are in the grip of the anti-christ.

When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two pounds of wheat for a day’s wages, and six pounds of barley for a day’s wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!” Revelation 6:5-6

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-21   10:20:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A Pole (#8) (Edited)

= $4.44 a day.

Feeding them is just the tip of the iceberg. Figure out how much it costs for housing, utilities, medical, incarceration, free attorneys, free phones, taxi fees, mental health fees and prescription drug cost.

Then after you add that up, imagine having to solve their self generated problems for 20 years... and have to smell them.

The number of them are growing, liberal. And as that number grows, the number funding them is dwindling.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   10:21:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GrandIsland (#11)

The number of them are growing, liberal.

Is it because they get too much gruel?

A Pole  posted on  2015-05-21   10:23:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin (#9)

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-21   10:25:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Pericles (#10)

true Christians

I don't attend your church. Don't libtardlly expect me to toss money in your collection basket every Sunday.

You spend your money how you feel fit... I'll spend mine. Please and thank you.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   10:26:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A Pole (#12)

Is it because they get too much gruel?

It's because your political ideology and sympathy causes DEPENDENCY.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   10:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Gatlin (#9)

I crossed the border and all I got is...

And the support from LF's closet libtard AGENDA posters.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   10:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Gatlin (#9) (Edited)

This is why the AGENDA posters refuse to post about welfare... WATCH THE CLOSET LIBTARDS COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK ON THIS THREAD. lol

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   10:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: All (#17)

Come on, LF!!! Apole and Piricles are already known and outed liberals... I want the closet ones to rear they're ugly faces. lol.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   10:35:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Pericles (#10)

"Having Americans who claim they are the true Christians in this country openly calling for not feeding their own people is pretty much the sign of the end times and that they are in the grip of the anti-christ."

You got that flipped around.

Having Christians openly calling for not forcing others to use their hard-earned money to feed these parasites is pretty much acting like true Americans.

Christian Americans believe in charity, and we're the most generous nation on the face of the earth. True Christian Americans don't believe in forcibly taking money from some and giving it to others.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-21   10:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: GrandIsland (#15)

"Is it because they get too much gruel?"

It's because your political ideology and sympathy causes DEPENDENCY.

This caused poverty and dependency in Dickens time?

A Pole  posted on  2015-05-21   10:41:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: misterwhite (#19)

Christian Americans believe in charity, and we're the most generous nation on the face of the earth. True Christian Americans don't believe in forcibly taking money from some and giving it to others.

Piricles is hiding her libtardness behind religion... that is fact.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   10:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A Pole (#20)

This caused poverty and dependency in Dickens time?

Feeding any animal capable of feeding themselves causes DEPENDENCY... since the beginning of man. Even when Dickens was alive.

You should quit while you're ahead... you have nothing more to prove but the level of your bleeding heart. lol

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   10:45:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A Pole (#8)

"= $4.44 a day."

And yet the food stamp recipients sell their cards for 50 cents on the dollar.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-21   10:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: misterwhite (#23)

And yet the food stamp recipients sell their cards for 50 cents on the dollar.

But... But... that's how most of them pay for their weed and opiates. They need spare cash because most meth dealers don't accept EBT cards. You won't hear our AGENDA posters bitch about this because they favor welfare and we know THEY LOVE DRUGS.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   10:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: GrandIsland (#14)

I don't attend your church

Send my regards to the anti-christ who runs yours.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-21   11:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: misterwhite, A Pole (#19)

Christian Americans believe in charity, and we're the most generous nation on the face of the earth. True Christian Americans don't believe in forcibly taking money from some and giving it to others.

Then why are there still poor in America if you are such good Christians?

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Matthew 19:21

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-21   11:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Pericles (#13)

That was funny...

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-21   11:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: GrandIsland (#22)

Feeding any animal capable of feeding themselves causes DEPENDENCY... since the beginning of man. Even when Dickens was alive.

You should quit while you're ahead... you have nothing more to prove but the level of your bleeding heart. lol

A Pole  posted on  2015-05-21   11:21:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: GrandIsland (#18)

Maybe tpaine will come along to answer the call, but right now he isbusy crying because all of his "fair use" threads are being wiped out.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-21   11:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: GrandIsland (#24)

And yet the food stamp recipients sell their cards for 50 cents on the dollar.

But... But... that's how most of them pay for their weed and opiates.

How much weed and opiates you can buy for weed $2.22 (50% of $4.44)? And what do they eat?

A Pole  posted on  2015-05-21   11:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: GrandIsland (#16)

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-21   11:26:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Pericles (#10)

Industrial, urban society in a free-trade world with nearly-free migrations of people will always have substantial excess populations that cannot get a job sufficient to support their needs within a local area or the necessary time frame to avoid extreme hardship.

Therefore, permanent food assistance is required to ensure that nobody lapses into malnutrition or starvation. The food provided on such programs should be nutritionally complete and wholesome and agreeable, if plain and unadorned. Children should be able to survive and thrive on it. It should not be threadbare prison rations, but sufficient to maintain permanent robust health.

However, it should be plain peasant food: healthy, wholesome and complete, but not FANCY.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-05-21   11:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A Pole (#28)

There is nothing wrong with different economic classes. Capitalism thrives on the importance of all types of jobs. We need toilet makers, scrubbers and sellers... or we can't shit.

We are not equal liberal. We never were. We shouldn't try to treat people as equals... just FAIRLY based on their abilities.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   11:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Gatlin (#31)

If You Want A Paycheck Vote Republican

You will get $50 per hour lettuce picking job!

A Pole  posted on  2015-05-21   11:41:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A Pole (#34)

You will get $50 per hour lettuce picking job!

John McCain made that sincere offer and not one person took him up on it.

Democrats would rather be on food stamps.

George Bush had nothing to do with the offer.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-21   11:58:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin, A Pole (#35) (Edited)

You will get $50 per hour lettuce picking job!

John McCain made that sincere offer and not one person took him up on it.

McCain owns a lettuce farm? How will someone take him up on that offer if the farm is imaginary?

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-21   12:07:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Pericles (#36) (Edited)

McCain owns a lettuce farm? How will someone take him up on that offer if the farm is imaginary?

He may have a lettuce farm, I don't know.

The offer was not imaginary, it was a valid offer sincerely made at the time.

Here's the transcript:

John McCain: "I don't think I need to tell you that there are jobs that Americans will not do. I don't think I have to tell you that there are ... the backbone of our economy...

Audience members: "Pay them the right wages."

John McCain: "You know I've heard that statement before. Now, my friends, I'll offer anybody here fifty dollars an hour if you'll go pick lettuce in Yuma this season and pick for the whole season. So, ok, sign up! Ok, when you sign up, you sign up, and you'll be there for the whole season, the whole season, ok, not just one day. Because you can't do it, my friend."

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-21   12:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Gatlin (#35)

You will get $50 per hour lettuce picking job!

John McCain made that sincere offer and not one person took him up on it.

stardawg 35 points 6 years ago

Damn, and I just took a job picking cabbage for $45 an hour! Fucking lettuce.

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papalmonkey 29 points 6 years ago

Just sent him an e-mail through his Senate website:

Dear Senator McCain,

During your address to the Building and Construction Trades Department Conference, you publicly offered to pay $50 an hour for people willing to come to Yuma, Arizona for the summer to pick lettuce.

I would like to sign up for this position. I am an educated, professional, American citizen, and would really enjoy the extra money I could earn if I switched to a career picking lettuce.

You did not provide any contact information during your address. I understand that you don't use e-mail or the internet, so I must assume that applicants must submit their resumes to you via the U.S. Mail. If so, which address should I send it to? I've tried finding your home address, but I've come across seven different home addresses and I'm unsure which would be appropriate.

Thank you for your time, and I look forward to a new career in the lucrative lettuce industry.

Sincerely, Papalmonkey

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habbadash 4 points 6 years ago

Don't be an asshole or he won't take my application seriously!

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cranktheguy[S] 187 points 6 years ago*

I graduated from college and work 40 hours a week, but still go further into debt every month- mostly because of my son's medical condition. I would love to make $50/hour. So, McCain, where do I sign? I am more than willing to work hard.

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Pluth 9 points 6 years ago*

Picking lettuce is hardly a "shit job." I did it in high school during the summer when I *couldn't drive a car. You might get a little dirty, but it isn't hard work.

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jjschnei 79 points 6 years ago

I'd pick lettuce for 100k a year. Fresh air, sunshine, nice view. Beats the hell out of working in a cubicle staring at a screen all day and getting paid a third of that.

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Omikron 146 points 6 years ago

Don't belittle the difficulty of the job. I grew up in a farming community, and have picked several types of farm crops. Believe me it is not fucking easy.

Still for 50 dollars an hour I'd pick pimples of McCain's ass for 10 hours a day.

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[deleted] 93 points 6 years ago*

Don't belittle the difficulty of the job. I grew up in a dermatology community, and have picked several types of ass pimples. Believe me it's not fucking easy.

Still for 50 dollars an hour I'd pick lettuce off of McCain's farm for ten hours a day.

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mingdamirthless 18 points 6 years ago

I also grew up on a farm, and picked squash, tomatoes, peppers, sweet corn, WATERMELONS, etc.

I agree, it can be extremely hot and tiring work. But let's be honest, we worked for 5 dollars an hour. For $50 an hour, we could've hired up to an including some lawyers in town to pick our crops.

The fact of the matter is, McCain is out of touch with how hard some people work for a living in this country.

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lofi76 1 point 6 years ago*

Still for 50 dollars an hour I'd pick pimples of McCain's ass for 10 hours a day.

that was the nastiest visual i've been subjected to in a LONG time.

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[deleted] 6 points 6 years ago

Fuck yeah. What did I go to college for? My degree is worthless and not even in the field I work in! Someone tell me where this $50/hour job is!

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[deleted] 19 points 6 years ago

McCain meant "toss salad" not "pick lettuce", it's an old Navy term

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imquez 2 points 6 years ago

Really, I could've swore I heard "let us pick" 50 dollars from your pocket.

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asaturn 6 points 6 years ago

when you sit on your ass for all but one week per year in the senate, making $200,000+ ... picking lettuce for $50/hr seems like slave labor.

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http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6y43r/dear_mccain_where_do_i_sign_up_for_the_50hour/

A Pole  posted on  2015-05-21   12:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A Pole (#38)

...you publicly offered to pay $50 an hour for people willing to come to Yuma, Arizona for the summer to pick lettuce.

That's a lie. John McCain did NOT make that offer.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-21   12:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Gatlin, A Pole, Pericles (#39) (Edited)

...you publicly offered to pay $50 an hour for people willing to come to Yuma, Arizona for the summer to pick lettuce.

That's a lie. John McCain did NOT make that offer.

From YOUR OWN POST # 34:

Gatlin - "The offer was not imaginary, it was a valid offer sincerely made at the time. "

John McCain: "You know I've heard that statement before. Now, my friends, I'll offer anybody here fifty dollars an hour if you'll go pick lettuce in Yuma this season and pick for the whole season. So, ok, sign up! Ok, when you sign up, you sign up, and you'll be there for the whole season, the whole season, ok, not just one day. Because you can't do it, my friend."

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-21   12:34:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Deckard, A Pole, GrandIsland (#40) (Edited)

Thanks for the video.

I repeat: John McCain "never offered to pay $50 an hour for people willing to come to Yuma, Arizona for the summer to pick lettuce."

(GrandIsland, follow along with the posts here).

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-21   12:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Gatlin (#41)

I repeat: John McCain "never offered to pay $50 an hour for people willing to come to Yuma, Arizona for the summer to pick lettuce."

Good grief man, are you insane, blind or just such a McCain suck-up that you can't even hear the offer he made?

You need to take a break old man - you are getting confused.

Folks your age get easily addled when presented with facts.

You yourself claimed in post #34 that "The offer was not imaginary, it was a valid offer sincerely made at the time."

Now you're backtracking trying to say the offer was not valid?

Get some rest sport.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-21   12:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Gatlin (#39)

That's a lie. John McCain did NOT make that offer.

Another post:

Gatlin - "The offer was not imaginary, it was a valid offer sincerely made at the time. "

I am getting confused.

A Pole  posted on  2015-05-21   12:55:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Deckard, A Pole, GrandIsland (#42)

...you can't even hear the offer he made?

It is you, who can't hear the offer he made.

I repeat again:

John McCain "never offered to pay $50 an hour for people willing to come to Yuma, Arizona for the summer to pick lettuce."

Now, you go listen again to the offer he made, and listen very carefully this time.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-21   12:58:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A Pole (#43)

John McCain "never offered to pay $50 an hour for people willing to come to Yuma, Arizona for the summer to pick lettuce."

Go watch the video Deckard posted and listen very carefully to the offer John McCain made.

Pay close attention...

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-21   13:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: A Pole (#43)

I am getting confused.

Obviously Gatlin is the one who is confused.

He can't even make up his mind if the offer was valid or not.

Poor deluded man.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-21   13:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Gatlin (#45)

You're delusional.

I'll offer anybody here fifty dollars an hour if you'll go pick lettuce in Yuma this season and pick for the whole season.

Is this a valid offer or not?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-21   13:01:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Deckard (#47) (Edited)

I'll offer anybody here fifty dollars an hour if you'll go pick lettuce in Yuma this season and pick for the whole season.
Is this a valid offer or not?

Yes! Yes! Yes! That is a Valid offer!!!

Read carefully what papalmonkey wrote in the post A Pole made:

“...you publicly offered to pay $50 an hour for people willing to come to Yuma, Arizona for the summer to pick lettuce.”
That was NOT a valid offer. That was NOT what McCain offered.

Again, McCain said:

“I'll offer anybody here fifty dollars an hour if you'll go pick lettuce in Yuma this season and pick for the whole season.”

This is a valid offer!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-21   13:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Deckard, A pole, GrandIsland (#48)

Reading comprehension is the ability to read text, process it and understand its meaning. An individual's ability to comprehend text goes all to Hell when he reads with a predetermined opinion. He doesn't read the facts, he reads "what" he wants to believe.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-21   13:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Gatlin (#41)

Sorry, I'm busy as hell at my part-time job. lol, some retirement, huh

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   13:58:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Pericles (#26)

"Then why are there still poor in America if you are such good Christians?"

Because "the poor" are defined as some bottom percentage of the population. Meaning "the poor" will always exist.

But 'the poor" in the US look like "the rich" in the truly poor countres.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-21   14:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: misterwhite (#51) (Edited)

But 'the poor" in the US look like "the rich" in the truly poor countres.

Poverty is relative and objective at the same time.

In most of America owning a car is a necessity - to be able to commute to work, shopping, doctor etc ... In many countries it is not necessary. In a warm tropical country having shoes or heating is not a necessity - in northern Russia it is. Eskimo (until recently at least) has to have hunting tools and kayak. Etc, etc ...

Poor are those who can barely make ends meet while destitute are those who cannot do it without assistance or going into debt.

Real middle class are those who have sufficient disposable income and possessions enabling them to have free time, be active in culture, society or politics, and invest/save.

The rich are those who do not need to have income and can hire others.

Because "the poor" are defined as some bottom percentage of the population.

This is being done for accounting convenience. Percentage is defined to reflect real definitions presented above.

A Pole  posted on  2015-05-21   14:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: misterwhite, A Pole (#51)

All the money spent on war death and destruction and not giving food to the poor is the hill your GOP ilk want to die on?

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-21   14:54:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Pericles (#53)

"All the money spent on war death and destruction and not giving food to the poor is the hill your GOP ilk want to die on?"

Seems obvious to me that if they want to eat they should join the military where all the spending is taking place.

Not giving food to the poor? We gave them $100 billion worth.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-21   15:03:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: misterwhite (#54)

You don't want to feed people is your issue.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-21   15:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: misterwhite, Pericles (#54) (Edited)

Seems obvious to me that if they want to eat they should join the military where all the spending is taking place.

Yeah - looks like the money is being spent on expanding the empire, not on ensuring that the troops have enough to live on.

Food Stamps: Military Families Redeem $100 Million A Year In SNAP Benefits

Hungry Heroes: 25 Percent of Military Families Seek Food Aid

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-21   15:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Pericles (#26)

Then why are there still poor in America if you are such good Christians?

Because the people you vote for ensure there will always be plenty of people in poverty, that's what you Catholics want isn't it??

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-21   18:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Pericles (#55)

"You don't want to feed people is your issue."

No. I thought I was clear. I don't want my money forcibly taken from me to feed people.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-21   18:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: misterwhite, Piricles (#58) (Edited)

No. I thought I was clear. I don't want my money forcibly taken from me to feed people.

^^^^ I agree with him ^^^^

And if Piricles doesn't like that, then he/she can pay the amount PIRICLES decided I should pay.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-21   18:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Gatlin (#35)

ohn McCain made that sincere offer and not one person took him up on it.

Don't you remember the protest? Many of us sent resumes to McCain. He never called! :)

http://www.tedcruz.org

out damned spot  posted on  2015-05-21   19:00:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: GrandIsland, misterwhite (#59)

No. I thought I was clear. I don't want my money forcibly taken from me to feed people.

That is how GrandIsland's paycheck was funded.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-21   23:36:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: misterwhite (#58)

I thought I was clear. I don't want my money forcibly taken from me to feed people.

Do you keep your money under the mattress? Or do they come to you in the form of government check?

A Pole  posted on  2015-05-22   0:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Pericles (#61) (Edited)

That is how GrandIsland's paycheck was funded.

To survive as a society, we need the roads maintained, our borders defended, the structure fires extinguished and the criminals apprehended... But we don't need to feed the lazy able bodied so they generationally spawn more dependent turds. We can survive without them.

Our forefathers designed limited government and taxes to fund it... but their design didn't contain one penny for the lazy... so you pay for it. Don't ask me to.

Btw, officers, teachers, military and firefighters WORK AND EARN their pay checks... leaches don't "earn" or contribute to social services... they just leach and spawn more leaches.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-22   7:56:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Pericles (#61)

"That is how GrandIsland's paycheck was funded."

True. But he serves ALL the people.

Hugh difference between "the general welfare" and specific welfare for a select group.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-22   9:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: misterwhite (#64)

"That is how GrandIsland's paycheck was funded."

True. But he serves ALL the people.

You are under the mistaken impression that cops serve someone other than the State.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-22   9:26:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Deckard (#65)

"You are under the mistaken impression that cops serve someone other than the State."

And in a representative republic, the people are the state.

You must get off on feeling helpless, don't you? That you have no control over "THE GOVERNMENT".

If so, you need to move to a country with a dictatorship. Then you can grouse to your heart's content.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-22   9:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: misterwhite (#66)

That you have no control over "THE GOVERNMENT".

I don't, you don't, no one does. Except the corporations and lobbyists.

Oh and defense contractors.

When are you and your idiot friends here going to wake up to the fact that your vote is meaningless.

Maybe locally it counts for something, but not nationally.

If so, you need to move to a country with a dictatorship.

"America, love it or leave it" isn't that what you idiots like to say?

Good grief man, you're pathetic.

Then you can grouse to your heart's content.

Last time I checked we had freedom of speech in America. Seems to me that your stance is "don't complain, just shut up".

Effing fascist!

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-22   9:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: misterwhite (#66)

And in a representative republic, the people are the state.

And that's what it really boils down to... the majority of the sheep don't mind one bit what pisses Deckard off. That's the "state". These "crooked" politicians are providing the sheep with what they DEMAND... food, shelter and the illusion of SAFETY.

Now, I don't like the direction my sheeple peers have taken this country... but our society isn't all about me. lol

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-22   10:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: GrandIsland (#68)

"Now, I don't like the direction my sheeple peers have taken this country..."

Neither does numbnuts. But because the majority disagrees with him, that makes our country a dictatorship and him helpless to do anything about it.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-22   14:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: GrandIsland (#0)

The redistribution of wealth promised by the leftists is in full swing.

Don  posted on  2015-05-22   17:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Don (#70)

The redistribution of wealth promised by the leftists is in full swing.

I agree... and soon, when even 25 and 35% of ones paycheck isn't enough to fund the masses of people that refuse to work... the government will have no way to fix it until they just take all of your paycheck and make us all "equal"

That's what they've been doing over the last 45 years, indoctrinating the sheep to think we are "equal"... and we are not equal.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-22   17:33:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: GrandIsland (#71)

Communist dogma gives material things to all according to their need. The State provides the needed assets to its citizens, I.e. its slaves. The whole system falls apart when no one gives resources to the State.

Don  posted on  2015-05-22   17:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: GrandIsland (#0)

Black out of wedlock birthrate is what, 70%?

The Black family survived slavery, reconstruction the reformation and Jim Crow laws.

What killed it off was the great society and the war on poverty.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-22   17:55:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Dead Culture Watch (#73)

"Black out of wedlock birthrate is what, 70%?"

Yep. 73%.

As a comparison, black out of wedlock birthrate was 7% in 1964 -- before the Great Society programs.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-23   7:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: misterwhite, Deckard, A Pole, GrandIsland (#66) (Edited)

And in a representative republic, the people are the state.

So pay your taxes when the people's representatives set some funds aside to feed the poor.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-23   13:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Pericles (#75) (Edited)

So pay your taxes when the people's representatives set some funds aside to feed the poor.

That money could be better spent on ramping up the war on drugs and arresting more potheads.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-23   13:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Pericles (#75)

"So pay your taxes when the people's representatives set some funds aside to feed the poor."

Let's see. For the third time. I don't want my tax money taken from me and given to a select group of people. Tax dollars are to be used for the general welfare.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-23   13:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: misterwhite (#77) (Edited)

I don't want my tax money taken from me and given to a select group of people. Tax dollars are to be used for the general welfare.

What is this "general" welfare? More prisons? Nation building abroad?

A Pole  posted on  2015-05-23   15:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Pericles (#75)

I refuse to allow my taxes to enslave and enable future lazy pathetic shit birds. That will only cause socialism... your favorite ideal.

Taxes should only be used for public safety, education (education should be private funded) and roads and highways. Something EVERYBODY USES... not just the lazy.

You should surf libtard discussion boards... You'd fit in better. Take Apole, Willie Green and a few other flaming liberals with us. Please & thank you.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-23   16:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: A Pole (#78) (Edited)

What is this "general" welfare? More prisons?

It's for shit EVERYONE USES...

Everyone benefits by improved and maintained roads

Everyone benefits by public safety

Everyone benefits by corrections (that way some criminal shitbag is locked away and can't victimize libtards like you)

But only turds benefit from welfare... and because of your weak pathetic bleeding heart, more and more Americans are generationally becoming dependent upon your sorrow.

I'd rather you cry every time you see someone with less than you, rather than you expect ME to fund that person so YOU feel better.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-23   16:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: A Pole (#78)

"What is this "general" welfare?"

Spending which benefits everyone in general -- roads, bridges, the military, etc.

As opposed to specific welfare -- taking money from citizen "A" and giving it to citizen "B".

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-23   18:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: misterwhite (#77)

I don't want my tax money taken from me and given to a select group of people.

Tough. No taxation without representation. You lost. America, love it or leave it.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-23   23:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: GrandIsland (#79)

I refuse to allow my taxes to enslave and enable future lazy pathetic shit birds. That will only cause socialism... your favorite ideal

You are a govt employee that has lived off taxation. You are the living example of socialism you speak about. Heck, you probably wore a uniform at work like socialists do.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-23   23:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: misterwhite, A Pole (#81)

"What is this "general" welfare?"

Not having hungry people is just as beneficial as having a good road to a logical mind.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-23   23:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Pericles (#83) (Edited)

You are a govt employee that has lived off taxation

Your forefathers intended for limited government... welfare was never a thought. Get a new argument to hide your closet socialist agenda.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-24   2:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: GrandIsland (#80)

I'd rather you cry every time you see someone with less than you, rather than you expect ME to fund that person so YOU feel better.

Now you should know by now that "ISN'T" the Leftard way.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-24   5:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: misterwhite (#74)

Yep. 73%.

As a comparison, black out of wedlock birthrate was 7% in 1964 -- before the Great Society programs.

I see the Leftards are giving that a wide berth when they discuss the "advantages" of Welfare.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-24   5:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: CZ82 (#87)

"I see the Leftards are giving that a wide berth when they discuss the "advantages" of Welfare."

In today's news, Arizona is proposing limiting welfare to one year. That's a start.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-24   9:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Pericles (#84)

"Not having hungry people is just as beneficial as having a good road to a logical mind."

Which is why I believe charities are worthwhile.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-24   9:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Pericles (#84)

Not having hungry people is just as beneficial as having a good road to a logical mind.

Hungry? Most of the 'poor' people I see could eat an Ethiopean family and then look for a KFC to loot. At least judging by how fat they are.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-24   11:34:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: GrandIsland (#85)

our forefathers intended for limited government... welfare was never a thought.

Really?

"promote the general Welfare" is in the constitution.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-24   14:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Dead Culture Watch (#90)

Not having hungry people is just as beneficial as having a good road to a logical mind.

Hungry? Most of the 'poor' people I see could eat an Ethiopean family and then look for a KFC to loot. At least judging by how fat they are.

We should wait until their bellies are distended first - then feed them after they grovel at our feet. Keep running on that platform, kooks.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-24   14:45:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: misterwhite (#88)

In today's news, Arizona is proposing limiting welfare to one year. That's a start.

Governor Doug Ducey is weighing in on sharp cuts to Arizona residents on welfare.

The Arizona Legislature ended lifetime benefits to low-income families after just 12 months.

The Governor calls the cuts necessary to protect education and other programs.

But those who rely on the help call the cuts unfair.

Critics say taxpayers may have to foot additional costs because those who are most vulnerable may not get the assistance they need.

"What we want to do is transition people out of the social safety net into gainful employment," said Arizona Governor Doug Ducey.

Gov. Ducey says the move came as legislators worked to close the state's $1 billion budget deficit.

>>VIDEO: Sen. Kelli Ward on why Arizona is cutting back on welfare

The program that receives funding from the Federal Government, and provides money to families in need, saved about $4 million taxpayer dollars.

"We had a budget to balance, we balanced it in a bi-partisan way, through our reforms we have protected the developmentally disabled, we have protected seniors, and the best reform here is a job and an opportunity in a growing economy," he said.

According to the Arizona Department of Economic Security, the average stay on the program is about 14 months, and a single parent with two kids can receive a maximum of just under $280 a month.

"We all want the people to find work, and the last time I checked the unemployment rate in Arizona was higher than the United States average. That means people looking for jobs cannot find them. So then to punish people and say we are letting you fall into crisis is a very damaging policy for the whole state," said Dana Naimark with the Children's Action Alliance.

Naimark and the Alliance lobbied against the cuts at the legislature. They point out that to be in the program the parent has to be actively looking for work. The changes are estimated to effect 1,700 families, and that includes about 2,700 children.

"This is to save $4 million in a $9 billion budget, that is ridiculous. This was not a choice anybody had to make. This is something some legislators wanted to do, and it is a bad idea," she said.

And not a single mention of illegal aliens and how it would effect them, the terminology used was "Arizona residents".

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-24   14:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Dead Culture Watch, Pericles (#90)

Hungry? Most of the 'poor' people I see could eat an Ethiopean family and then look for a KFC to loot. At least judging by how fat they are.

You should see how much food gets thrown away each week at each Food bank that is close to where I live, enough to fill one of these...

A 6 cubic yard dumpster...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-24   14:59:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: CZ82 (#94)

A 6 cubic yard dumpster.

Am sure some conservative made them throw it away.

Bastards

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-24   15:53:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: CZ82 (#86) (Edited)

Now you should know by now that "ISN'T" the Leftard way.

I do realize this... I just like to drive home that I won't voluntarily donate one penny to make that leftard feel better for months.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-24   20:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Dead Culture Watch (#90)

t having hungry people is just as beneficial as having a good road to a logical mind.

Hungry? Most of the 'poor' people I see could eat an Ethiopean family and then look for a KFC to loot. At least judging by how fat they are.

The problem you lot have is that only shit hole countries like Somalia and Ethiopia don't have a welfare system. Every advanced and prosperous country on earth has a form of welfare system. You lot has to show how copying Somalia will lead to more prosperity than Sweden's system or Canada's or even the current American system.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-25   0:36:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Pericles (#97)

The problem 'your' lot has is that you destroy lives and walk around as smug as possible for having done so.

Why has the black family disintegrated since the great society? It's like you democrats, who started the KKK, have found the perfect weapon to destroy.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-25   1:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Dead Culture Watch (#95)

I opened one up one time and most of the food in it was just barely past it's expiration date, which is only a suggestion anyway as you know. I have things around the house that are past their expiration date and they are still just fine. My guess is the Food Banks don't want to take the chance on being sued by their customers (claiming they got sick over expired food) so they just throw it out. Either that or the Health Inspector stops by periodically and makes them throw it out, either way it's a waste of good food.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-25   7:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Pericles, Dead Culture Watch (#97)

The problem you lot have is that only shit hole countries like Somalia and Ethiopia don't have a welfare system.

Why would they their leaders are only interested in making sure they stay in power and have prosperous lives themselves.

Reminds me a whole hell of a lot of the kind of people you vote for, doesn't it??

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-25   7:39:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: GrandIsland (#96)

I do realize this... I just like to drive home that I won't

You might need to use a wooden stake in the heart before you get that point across to some folks.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-25   8:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Dead Culture Watch (#98)

The problem 'your' lot has is that you destroy lives and walk around as smug as possible for having done so.

Why has the black family disintegrated since the great society? It's like you democrats, who started the KKK, have found the perfect weapon to destroy.

The causation / correlation. You have no idea what caused the black family to break down. It could be a function of the loss of jobs in the manufacturing industry for all you know. It could be that the war on crime and drugs placed a whole generation of black men behind bars and eliminated them from the work place and the family.

Since more whites than blacks are on welfare you would have to show welfare had an equal effect on white and hispanic families.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-25   13:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: CZ82, Dead Culture Watch (#100)

Why would they their leaders are only interested in making sure they stay in power and have prosperous lives themselve

I could not read through your gibberish.

But I am willing to accept your world view. Show me one country where there is no welfare and is a modern 1st world country and is prosperous.

Because the only places I see with low or no taxes and no welfare and no govt regulations or low govt regulations are shit hole African countries.

Or do you all live in this fantasy world of your own making and assume your ideas would work without any real world examples?

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-25   13:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Pericles (#102)

Since more whites than blacks are on welfare

Haven't you figured out yet that those whites are people with the same Ideology as you??

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-25   13:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Pericles (#103)

Or do you all live in this fantasy world of your own making and assume your ideas would work without any real world examples?

You been looking in the mirror again??

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-25   13:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: CZ82 (#104) (Edited)

Haven't you figured out yet that those whites are people with the same Ideology as you??

Byzantine Imperial revivalism?

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-25   16:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Pericles, rlk (#97)

Every advanced and prosperous country on earth has a form of welfare system.

Self ping for rebuttal.

rlk  posted on  2015-05-26   15:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Pericles (#106)

Voting for your own demise..

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-26   15:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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