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New Discovery! 2023 Hottest in over 120 Million Years 2024 and beyond in prophecy Questions This Speech Just Broke the Internet Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Bible Study See other Bible Study Articles Title: This is why it is so important you read the word of God, in the original Hebrew and Greek, yourself and not take what others say it says. Source: ChristianPatriot.com URL Source: [None] Published: May 14, 2015 Author: Pastor Bob Celeste for ACP Post Date: 2015-05-14 09:05:01 by BobCeleste Keywords: ACP Views: 59016 Comments: 248 This is why it is so important you read the word of God, in the original Hebrew and Greek, yourself and not take what others say it says. This is how Malachi 3:9 is represented in various interpretations. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. (KJV) With a curse ye are cursed! And Me ye are deceiving--this nation--all of it. (YLT) Ye are cursed with the curse; for ye rob me, even this whole nation. (ASV) You are cursed with a curse, For you have robbed Me, Even this whole nation. (NKJV) You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing me; the whole nation of you. (RSV) You are cursed with the curse; for you rob me, even this whole nation. (WEB) Notice how everyone of the above translations say "Ye or you are cursed with the curse" But that is not what the original Hebrew says. Here is what the original Hebrew says: Ye are cursed {'arar} with a curse {m@erah}: for ye have robbed {qaba`} me, even this whole nation {gowy}. Let's look at the Hebrew words 'arar and m@erah. 'arar is a primitive root; to execrate:--X bitterly curse m@erah is an execration:--curse. The original does not say You are cursed, it says cursed with a curse, meaning it could either be you are cursed with a curse or you cursed with a curse, in one it is God doing the cursing in the other it is it is God being cursed. God's word is to important to trust others with it, your salvation is to important, you need to take it into your own hands not rely upon the word or interpretation of others. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 32. #1. To: BobCeleste (#0) "not rely upon the word or interpretation of others." Ummm. Meaning I shouldn't rely on your interpretation. Got it. misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-14   9:14:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: misterwhite (#1) Ummm. Meaning I shouldn't rely on your interpretation. Absolutely correct. Do you think for even one minute saying to God, when He ask you why He should let you into His heaven, "well Bob said" is going to get you a free pass? He will say to you, "Why didn't you read my Word yourself?" For you see, misterwhite, I really don't care if you go to heaven or hell, but God does. BobCeleste  posted on  2015-05-14   9:34:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: BobCeleste, GarySpFc, redleghunter (#2) He will say to you, "Why didn't you read my Word yourself?" I would then like to ask God why He deliberately confounded men by creating multiple languages at Babel so that we could not perfectly communicate with each other, especially in the communication of His words......but probably would lack the cojones to do that. SOSO  posted on  2015-05-14   11:16:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: SOSO (#8) I would then like to ask God why He deliberately confounded men by creating multiple languages at Babel And He will probably say: "Explained that in Genesis." BobCeleste  posted on  2015-05-14   14:47:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: BobCeleste, GaryDpFc, redleghunter, All (#12) And He will probably say: "Explained that in Genesis." Yes, it was to deliberately confound man. So why so if as you cliam the ONLY way to understand God's word is to totally understand Hebrew as spoken and written thousands and thousands of years ago. I, like 99.999% of the planet's population can't do that even if we had the time and wherewithal to do so. A bit of a conflicy here, no? Especially since you admit that we shouldn't trust you or anyone else to translate for us. SOSO  posted on  2015-05-14   14:53:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: SOSO, BobCeleste, GaryDpFc (#14) Yes, it was to deliberately confound man. So why so if as you cliam the ONLY way to understand God's word is to totally understand Hebrew as spoken and written thousands and thousands of years ago. I, like 99.999% of the planet's population can't do that even if we had the time and wherewithal to do so. A bit of a conflicy here, no? Especially since you admit that we shouldn't trust you or anyone else to translate for us. As I stated and provided information in my previous post...God provided His Gospel in all languages by the Power of the Holy Spirit. redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-14   16:34:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: redleghunter (#16) ...God provided His Gospel in all languages by the Power of the Holy Spirit. Wrongo, dear Ram. Man has provided those translations not God. Or are you claiming that all the different versions of the NT are each themself authentic originals of God's words and the differences are what is intended by God? SOSO  posted on  2015-05-14   19:25:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: SOSO (#19) Christ promised all nations would hear the Gospel. He provided the means on Pentecost. Since then to this day and until His second coming the Gospel continues in every tongue--language. 1 Corinthians 15: 15 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve. 6 After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have fallen asleep. 7 After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles. 8 Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one born out of due time. 9 For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. 11 Therefore, whether it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed. 12 Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. 14 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 15 Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up—if in fact the dead do not rise. 16 For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. 17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable. 20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all. redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-14   22:38:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 32.         There are no replies to Comment # 32. 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