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Title: This is why it is so important you read the word of God, in the original Hebrew and Greek, yourself and not take what others say it says.
Source: ChristianPatriot.com
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Published: May 14, 2015
Author: Pastor Bob Celeste for ACP
Post Date: 2015-05-14 09:05:01 by BobCeleste
Keywords: ACP
Views: 59072
Comments: 248

This is why it is so important you read the word of God, in the original Hebrew and Greek, yourself and not take what others say it says.

This is how Malachi 3:9 is represented in various interpretations.

Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. (KJV)

With a curse ye are cursed! And Me ye are deceiving--this nation--all of it. (YLT)

Ye are cursed with the curse; for ye rob me, even this whole nation. (ASV)

You are cursed with a curse, For you have robbed Me, Even this whole nation. (NKJV)

You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing me; the whole nation of you. (RSV)

You are cursed with the curse; for you rob me, even this whole nation. (WEB)


Notice how everyone of the above translations say "Ye or you are cursed with the curse" But that is not what the original Hebrew says. Here is what the original Hebrew says: Ye are cursed {'arar} with a curse {m@erah}: for ye have robbed {qaba`} me, even this whole nation {gowy}.

Let's look at the Hebrew words 'arar and m@erah.

'arar is a primitive root; to execrate:--X bitterly curse

m@erah is an execration:--curse.

The original does not say You are cursed, it says cursed with a curse, meaning it could either be you are cursed with a curse or you cursed with a curse, in one it is God doing the cursing in the other it is it is God being cursed.

God's word is to important to trust others with it, your salvation is to important, you need to take it into your own hands not rely upon the word or interpretation of others.

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#1. To: BobCeleste (#0)

"not rely upon the word or interpretation of others."

Ummm. Meaning I shouldn't rely on your interpretation.

Got it.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-14   9:14:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite (#1)

Ummm. Meaning I shouldn't rely on your interpretation.

Absolutely correct. Do you think for even one minute saying to God, when He ask you why He should let you into His heaven, "well Bob said" is going to get you a free pass?

He will say to you, "Why didn't you read my Word yourself?"

For you see, misterwhite, I really don't care if you go to heaven or hell, but God does.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-05-14   9:34:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BobCeleste, GarySpFc, redleghunter (#2)

He will say to you, "Why didn't you read my Word yourself?"

I would then like to ask God why He deliberately confounded men by creating multiple languages at Babel so that we could not perfectly communicate with each other, especially in the communication of His words......but probably would lack the cojones to do that.

SOSO  posted on  2015-05-14   11:16:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SOSO, BobCeleste, GarySpFc (#8)

I would then like to ask God why He deliberately confounded men by creating multiple languages at Babel so that we could not perfectly communicate with each other, especially in the communication of His words......but probably would lack the cojones to do that.

Of course God would direct you to Pentecost.

Again, you operate with the notion that God is not sovereign over His own Words and Commands.

Luke 21:33-Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.

Isaiah 40:8-The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever.

Isaiah 46:10-Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done, Saying, 'My purpose will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure';

would then like to ask God why He deliberately confounded men by creating multiple languages at Babel

Seems Pentecost brought the Good News from God to every tongue:

Acts 2:

When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place. 2 And suddenly there came from heaven a noise like a violent rushing wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared to them tongues as of fire distributing themselves, and they rested on each one of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit was giving them utterance.

5 Now there were Jews living in Jerusalem, devout men from every nation under heaven. 6 And when this sound occurred, the crowd came together, and were bewildered because each one of them was hearing them speak in his own language. 7 They were amazed and astonished, saying, “Why, are not all these who are speaking Galileans? 8 And how is it that we each hear them in our own language to which we were born? 9 Parthians and Medes and Elamites, and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the districts of Libya around Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretans and Arabs—we hear them in our own tongues speaking of the mighty deeds of God.” 12 And they all continued in amazement and great perplexity, saying to one another, “What does this mean?”

"This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come."---Jesus Christ

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-14   16:17:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: redleghunter (#15)

Seems Pentecost brought the Good News from God to every tongue:

Not to everyone, only to the 12 who then had to spread the News. Tell me again please how many Gospels and writtings in the accepted versions of the NT were writting by the 12. I do not dispute that the Goods News is meant for everyone of every tongue but rather maintain that the construct of languages make perfect fidelity of the translated message by men impossible.

SOSO  posted on  2015-05-14   19:31:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#33. To: SOSO (#20)

Not to everyone, only to the 12 who then had to spread the News.

Not accurate. Where do you see only the 12 receiving the gift of speaking in other languages?

God is sovereign in salvation. His Gospel message is for all peoples. I showed you the scriptures addressing these matters.

"The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”---Jesus Christ

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