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Title: Because to two accusatons, I will answer questions
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Published: May 7, 2015
Author: Pastor Bob Celeste ACP
Post Date: 2015-05-07 13:16:39 by BobCeleste
Keywords: ACP
Views: 25179
Comments: 103

Biff Tannen made this accusation: “Many things, probably most, of the things you claim about God and Christianity are not in the bible.”

A Pole made this accusation: “Because you make things up that are not in the Scriptures.”

In both instances I replied to them asking them to show even one example of the accusation, neither has done so, but, because of the accusation, I have opened a thirty day email account with HushMail.com I will answer any question dealing with my theology or any non prophecy question regarding the Bible.

The email address is biblequestions@hushmail.com

Don’t believe Biff Tannen or A Pole, ask your own questions and judge for yourself.

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#15. To: BobCeleste (#0)

I will answer questions.

I have a question for you.

Do you see any problem in the legality of a wedding that was performed by a friend of someone who was ordained online?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-07   18:37:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Gatlin (#15)

Do you see any problem in the legality of a wedding that was performed by a friend of someone who was ordained online?

email the question to: biblequestions@hushmail.com

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-05-07   19:36:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: BobCeleste (#17)

Do you see any problem in the legality of a wedding that was performed by a friend of someone who was ordained online?

email the question to: biblequestions@hushmail.com

What is your reason for not answering my questin on the forum here?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-07   20:24:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Gatlin, y'all (#19)

What is your reason for not answering my questin on the forum here?

True chutzpah from a guy that hides behind the bozo function, to avoid answering uncomfortable questions.

tpaine  posted on  2015-05-07   20:35:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: tpaine (#21)

True chutzpah ...

Absolutely!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-07   20:45:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Gatlin (#22)

Do you see any problem in the legality of a wedding that was performed by a friend of someone who was ordained online?

I do not see any problem in the supposed 'legality' of a wedding that was performed by a friend of someone who was ordained online, seeing that the Fed, State, or local govt should have NO business making a religious ceremony either 'legal or illegal'.

What's your opinion?

tpaine  posted on  2015-05-07   20:58:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: tpaine (#23)

Do you see any problem in the legality of a wedding that was performed by a friend of someone who was ordained online?

I do not see any problem in the supposed 'legality' of a wedding that was performed by a friend of someone who was ordained online, seeing that the Fed, State, or local govt should have NO business making a religious ceremony either 'legal or illegal'.

What's your opinion?

I don't have an opinion, but I do have a fact.

Marriages performed by ministers ordained online are not recognized in some states and jurisdictions. If a legal dispute comes up over a will or another important matter, the marriage would be set aside by a court.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-07   21:11:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Gatlin (#26)

I do not see any problem in the supposed 'legality' of a wedding that was performed by a friend of someone who was ordained online, seeing that the Fed, State, or local govt should have NO business making a religious ceremony either 'legal or illegal'.

What's your opinion?

I don't have an opinion, ---

The why did you pose the question? I'd bet you have an agenda, -- correct?

--- but I do have a fact. Marriages performed by ministers ordained online are not recognized in some states and jurisdictions. If a legal dispute comes up over a will or another important matter, the marriage would be set aside by a court.

So? Our rule of law provides for the settlement of disputes between people, regardless of their religious bonds.

tpaine  posted on  2015-05-07   22:47:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: tpaine (#34)

So? Our rule of law provides for the settlement of disputes between people, regardless of their religious bonds.

And our rule of law also provides for the settlement of disputes between people based on a legal contract. Marriage is a legal contract. If there is no legal marriage, then there is no legal contract to establish rights and obligations between spouses, between them and their children, and between them and their in-laws.

So, our rule of law must then provide for settlement of disputes between people who believe there is a legal contract when there is no legal contract. And that settlement may then be contrary to all prior legal entitlements and agreements set forth in any and all legal documents that were based on a legal marriage contract.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-08   0:07:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: BobCeleste (#37)

I see that you are back on forum. I have not received your reply to my email.

While I am waiting for your reply to my email, I will ask you another question.

In James 1:26...
Does this:
     If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.
Mean this:
     If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue (fully control bitterness or anger) but deceives his heart (believes something that is not true), this person's religion is worthless (has no good qualities and deserves contempt).

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-08   0:35:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Gatlin, BobCeleste (#38)

I will ask you another question.

In James 1:26... Does this: If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. Mean this: If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue (fully control bitterness or anger) but deceives his heart (believes something that is not true), this person's religion is worthless (has no good qualities and deserves contempt).

Are you REALLY interested in the interpretations of scripture? And are your ad libs really your own interpretation? Or... are you just playing a game of "GOTCHA!"?

Pastor Gatlin, as in the past, you've happened to cherry-pick a single verse (suspiciously like all liberals do when they play "GOTCHA!".) Except I wonder why you found it unnecessary to bother including the context of verses sandwiching James 1:26 (James, 1:21-1:25) as well as James 1:27?

YOUR homework before Bob answers you is to read James 1:21-1:27 (without cheating) and see if your very same ad libs apply.

You second assignment is reading James 3:13-17 (since you seem to be fascinated by James.) I'd be curious in your interpretation (or further ad libbing) in that case as well.

Thanks.

Liberator  posted on  2015-05-08   2:09:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Liberator, BobCeleste, Biff Tanner (#39)

Are you REALLY interested in the interpretations of scripture?

I am REALLY interested in what Bob has to say about this, not you.

And are your ad libs really your own interpretation?
The ad libs are not my own interpretation, they are dictionary definitions of the words….really.

Or... are you just playing a game of "GOTCHA!"?

Play is defined as engaging in activity for enjoyment and recreation rather than a serious or practical purpose. I am not playing, I am engaged in a serious or practical purpose.

Pastor Gatlin…

A pastor is defined as a minister in charge of a Christian church or congregation. Ergo, I am no pastor since I am not in charge of a Christian church or congregation. And I feel that going on the internet and filling out a form would not make me an ordained minister, as some folks feel it does. In fact, quite a number of folks feel it does. The Universal Life Church alone has pronounced more than 18 million pastors since it was founded. The organization ordains 10,000 people a month as pastors….free online. There are many others organizations such as the Church of Spiritual Humanism, the Rose Ministries….just to name a couple. Even the Temple of Earth which describes itself as a “religion-free religion” and “The World’s First Religion for Atheists” offers instant ordination online for free. Wow….just WOW! Biff Tanner said: “Just because someone says they’re a preacher it doesn’t mean they are.” Other folks will say that in their eyes, just because someone is legally ordained (in some states and jurisdictions) as a minister (pastor or preacher) instantly on the internet doesn’t make them a minister (pastor or preacher). Some will agree with these other folks.

As in the past, you've happened to cherry-pick a single verse (suspiciously like all liberals do when they play "GOTCHA!".)

“Shit happens” according to Forrest Gump. Nothing just happens with me. Furthermore, I do nothing suspiciously.

Except I wonder why you found it unnecessary to bother including the context of verses sandwiching James 1:26 (James, 1:21-1:25) as well as James 1:27?

There can be a wonderful feeling when your wonder, curiosity or strong desire to know or learn something is satisfied….especially if is about a question you found interesting or important, or have spent a lot of time and energy trying to answer. But as there can be sickness, misery, loneliness, suffering, devastation and heartache in life….there can also be disappointment. A disappointment in life can be a bitch.

YOUR homework …

The effects of frustration, exhaustion, lack of time for other activities, and loss of interest are the negative effects of homework. Assigning unnecessary homework with the absence of its value is an increased burden where the evidence of positive effects isn’t just dubious; it’s nonexistent. Homework is defined as a task assigned to students by their teachers to be completed outside the class. You are not my teacher, I am not a student and I never do anything without class. As has been said: “Disappointments in life can be a bitch.”

Thanks.

You have my most sincere welcome.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-08   9:25:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#68. To: Gatlin, BobCeleste (#46)

I am REALLY interested in what Bob has to say about this, not you.

Then you should have PM'd Bob in that case and not made a federal case of your public scriptural question at this forum (which prompts posters to poke at your own motivation and supposed curiosity.)

The ad libs are not my own interpretation, they are dictionary definitions of the words….really.

And *really* -- there are several meanings to your ad libbed "definitions." But again -- without prior verse and subsequent verses that sandwich James 1:26, the context is...conspicuously missing. NOT that you cared a whit to begin with, Mr. "GOTCHA!"

GATLIN: "I do nothing suspiciously."

Yeah, I *had* to BOLD this claim of yours. You just think posters have amnesia. You're funny.

You are not my teacher, I am not a student and I never do anything without class. As has been said: “Disappointments in life can be a bitch.”

How does it feel to get "GOTCHA'd?" Btw, you hardly "disappointed" me; You acted exactly as I expected.

Have a fascinating look as James 3:13-17.

Liberator  posted on  2015-05-08 16:28:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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