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Title: Rand Paul Is Not A Libertarian
Source: http://thinkprogress.org/
URL Source: http://thinkprogress.org/election/2 ... 093/rand-paul-not-libertarian/
Published: Apr 6, 2015
Author: JUDD LEGUM
Post Date: 2015-04-06 10:01:38 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 1809
Comments: 14

On April 7, Rand Paul — the junior Senator from Kentucky — will announce his candidacy for President of the United States. Paul is pitching himself as “a different kind of Republican leader.” Media reports tout his appeal to “young conservatives and libertarians.”

Libertarians, in general, are fiscally conservative but socially liberal, with a non-interventionist approach to foreign policy. His father, Ron Paul is a “libertarian cult figure” who had tremendous appeal to young Republicans. Rand Paul is clearly marketing himself as the heir apparent to those supporters — the one candidate with a chance of expanding the Republican base.

Rest of the story is here.

Poster Comment:
Ahem! Nothing new here, to me. I have long said that he is just another typical politicians!!!

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Rand Paul seems to stray from libertarian roots as he courts GOP base.

When the presidential buzz began building around Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) a couple of years ago, the expectation was that his libertarian ideas could make him the most unusual and intriguing voice among the major contenders in the 2016 field.

But now, as he prepares to make his formal announcement Tuesday, Paul is a candidate who has turned fuzzy, having trimmed his positions and rhetoric so much that it’s unclear what kind of Republican he will present himself as when he takes the stage.

[...]

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-06   10:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

Paul Blurs Libertarian Positions Ahead Of Announcement.

The excitement about Rand Paul running for president promoting libertarian ideas has lessened as he’s modified his positions to be more in line with the Republican base. The Washington Post calls it, generously, “a delicate balancing act.”

[...]

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-06   10:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin (#2)

I guess the 'bait' is out and now looking for a few nibbles:)

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live." (John 11:25)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-06   10:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin (#0)

When do you start with the abusive, terribly annoying flashing graphics?

Anyone paying attention knows that Rand is Not Ron and Rand will not get 1/10 of the support Ron did. So your assault may not be necessary. But I bet you're getting ready.

Are you supporting Hillary this go round? She's perfect for the likes of you. A warmongering, lying, white trash POS.

Operation 40  posted on  2015-04-06   10:31:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: redleghunter (#3)

I got trapped. Nothing better to do for a few minutes. Shame on me.

Operation 40  posted on  2015-04-06   10:33:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Operation 40 (#4)

When do you start with the abusive, terribly annoying

What do you expect from an abusive and terribly annoying chump like Gatlin?

He posted this thinking it was some big revelation that Rand is not a libertarian.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-06   10:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Gatlin (#0)

Paul is pitching himself as “a different kind of Republican leader.”

Oooh... oooh... oooh!
Let me guess! Let me guess!

Rand Paul is gonna try to steal some of Jeb Bush's thunder by being the first '16 candidate to call himself a "compassionate conservative" (as if everybody forgot what THAT one was all about.)

Willie Green  posted on  2015-04-06   10:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deckard (#6) (Edited)

He posted this thinking it was some big revelation that Rand is not a libertarian.

Rand Paul is "DIFFERNT!"

ROTFL...

He has FLIPPED so many times no one can tell WHAT he is!!!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-06   10:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8)

Rand Paul unveils populist, anti-establishment slogan:

“Defeat the Washington machine. Unleash the American dream.”

Doesn't that bring tears to your eyes....

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-06   11:04:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul is waking up to something fairly rare: Friendly fire against his outreach to black voters on criminal justice reform. In a walk-up to Paul's expected Tuesday announcement of a presidential bid, the Washington Post quotes Center for Neighborhood Enterprise President Bob Woodson, a frequent freelance tutor in poverty issues to Republicans.

"I find him superficial," says Woodson. "His talk about the militarization of police felt like pandering."

Like virtually everyone else in national politics, Paul has stopped talking about police militarization. (Police unions popped that particular trial balloon.) But as he readies for a five-state tour of his home state and early primary states, Paul is in the rare position of forcing criminal justice reform into a Republican presidential race. Since at least 2013, his office has collaborated with black leaders in Kentucky on voter restoration and economic development. His pre-campaign operation dodged all questions last week about the Iran deal and the red-state religious freedom laws, but his tour is going to take him to the University of Iowa, the sort of place where he typically leans in on criminal justice reform.

“If you build a big enough bipartisan majority in the Senate, it's going to pass.”

Newt Gingrich

If Paul so chooses, he can cement the GOP's role in the reform push–a role that still benefits from the Nixon-to-China, fish-out-of-water coverage conservatives get for leading on reform. Just last week, a story in the New Republic that informed liberals of Georgia Governor Nathan Deal's role in reform and a Huffington Post story about Koch Industries' lobbying for voter rights got thousands of social media shares. Both shared the you're-not-gonna-believe this frame. Conservative reformers appreciate the attention; they're also concerned that the legislation can only pass if they, and not President Obama and civil rights leaders, are the faces of changes.

"If you build a big enough bipartisan majority in the Senate, it's going to pass," Newt Gingrich told reporters last month, at a daylong reform conference in Washington. "There's no question that with Speaker Boehner, Majority Leader McCarthy, Chairman Goodlatte, former Chairman Sensenbrenner, you have huge support in the House. But the trick is to put together a big bipartisan majority in the Senate–to have the president as a reinforcer, and a cheerleader, but have the president really have the patience to allow the legislative process to get a bill he can sign."

Gingrich's analysis could have come right from the work of Frances Lee, a University of Maryland political scientist who has researched how presidents can harden partisan opposition to a policy simply by coming out in favor of it. "Whatever people think about raw policy issues, they’re aware that presidential successes will help the president’s party and hurt the opposing party," Lee told Ezra Klein in 2012. “It’s not to say they’re entirely cynical, but the fact that success is useful to the President’s party is going to have an effect on how members respond."

You could say the same of the people most associated with civil rights causes, like Al Sharpton, whose advocacy can make issues toxic for conservatives. At the Washington conference, I talked with former New York City police commissioner Bernie Kerik, who did a stint in prison and is now basically a full-time reform advocate, about how conservatives could shift the movement away from attention-getting protests.

"All these civil rights leaders that came out, encouraging these protests based on Ferguson, or Eric Garner in New York– those were two events out of hundreds of thousands of interactions a year with the police," Kerik said. "Two events. You know what? What about this stuff, where there's over-incarceration, where you have an 800 percent increase in the federal prison population over the last 30 years. This country would be far better served by those civil rights leaders fighting for this cause and addressing this than doing what they're doing."

Paul's run is likely to elevate his reform push–he spent the early part of this year re-introducing bills he can talk about on the trail. The only risk for reformers is that the conservatives who turn on Paul for other reasons might look for vulnerabilities in how he advocated after Ferguson. In speeches, Paul often introduces the reform topic with some awkward words about how the facts of the Michael Brown case were controversial. The people angered by riots in Ferguson would go further, and say that the protests were based on fraud.

"From day one, the first time I was on CNN, hours after the event, I said: Don't be premature," said Kerik. "Wait for conclusions. Wait for evidence–wait for the grand jury. And people were all over the map, condemning the grand jury, condemning the officer, trying to confuse what happened without knowing what happened. We do that too often."

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-06/rand-paul- and-the-gop-s-new-civil-rights-movement

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-06   11:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Gatlin, redleghunter (#2)

Paul Blurs Libertarian Positions Ahead Of Announcement.

A more accurate headline: Rand Paul fine tunes his positions to appeal to key demographics and prepares to lie his ass off just like the Xlintons, Bushes and Obamas.

Rand already has his core supporters. He needs to greatly expand that base and he has to attract traditional GOP voters to do that.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-06   12:38:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Gatlin (#8)

He has FLIPPED so many times no one can tell WHAT he is!!!

So you admit he's qualified for the presidency.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-06   12:39:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin (#1)

"Paul is a candidate who has turned fuzzy, having trimmed his positions and rhetoric so much that it’s unclear"

The Libertarian Party Platform has turned fuzzy.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-06   12:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Gatlin (#0)

If Rand Paul was a Libertarian, he would never have
been elected as a Senator. Really.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-04-06   15:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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