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Title: Israeli scholar says 1st century Jews awaited Messiah who would die & rise again.
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Joel Rosenberg Blog
URL Source: https://flashtrafficblog.wordpress. ... -an-idea-that-pre-dates-jesus/
Published: Apr 5, 2015
Author: Joel Rosenberg
Post Date: 2015-04-05 10:32:02 by redleghunter
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This is the week of Passover, the Feast of Unleavened Bread, and the Feast of First Fruits. Millions of Jews in Israel and around the world are celebrating the story of how the Jewish people were saved from the “angel of death” in ancient times if they put the blood of a perfect slain lamb on the doorposts of their homes in Egypt. This is also the week of Good Friday and Easter. Billions of Christians around the world are celebrating the death of Jesus of Nazareth, and His resurrection from the tomb three days later, and the belief that all mankind can be saved from the “angel of death” in our times if we, too, trust in the blood of a perfect slain Passover Lamb. But did the Jews of the first century really believe the Messiah would one day come to earth, die as a “suffering servant” — as an atonement for sins and the redemption of Israel — and would then rise from the dead on the third day? A respected professor and Dead Sea Scrolls expert at Hebrew University says “yes.” Based on concrete evidence, he argues that the death and “third day” resurrection of the Messiah is, in fact, a distinctly Jewish concept that actually pre-dates Jesus. Dr. Israel Knohl has based on his conclusions on many years of research and recently analyzed archaeological evidence, including a previously unstudied Dead Sea Scroll. Indeed, Knohl argues that this notion of the Messiah rising on the third day is a pre- Christian concept that dates back to before the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem Ephratah. I had the opportunity to sit and discuss this with Dr. Knohl at length a few years ago and it was an absolutely fascinating conversation. I first heard of him when he drew worldwide media attention several years ago for his research, including a major article in the New York Times and several articles in Biblical Archaeology Review — see here, and here, and here. The Times story, which ran under the headline, “Ancient Tablet Ignites Debate on Messiah and Resurrection,” begins as follows: “A three-foot-tall tablet with 87 lines of Hebrew that scholars believe dates from the decades just before the birth of Jesus is causing a quiet stir in biblical and archaeological circles, especially because it may speak of a messiah who will rise from the dead after three days. If such a messianic description really is there, it will contribute to a developing re-evaluation of both popular and scholarly views of Jesus, since it suggests that the story of his death and resurrection was not unique but part of a recognized Jewish tradition at the time. The tablet, probably found near the Dead Sea in Jordan according to some scholars who have studied it, is a rare example of a stone with ink writings from that era — in essence, a Dead Sea Scroll on stone.” The tablet has been named by scholars as “Gabriel’s Revelation” because it suggests that the angel Gabriel was instructed by God to direct that the Messiah be raised from the dead on the third day. The stone tablet was discovered about fifteen years ago and is owned by a Israeli-Swiss Jewish man by the name of David Jeselsohn who didn’t understand its significance when he purchased it. The Times article was published in 2008. Dr. Knohl then published a book about all this in 2009 entitled, Messiahs and Resurrection in “The Gabriel Revelation.” That was a follow up to his previous book, The Messiah Before Jesus: The Suffering Servant of the Dead Sea Scrolls (first published in Hebrew in 2000 and then in English in 2002). Poster Comment: In the book, Dr. Knohl explains the various Jewish theories about the Messiah, including the idea of a “Messiah son of David” who will be a reigning king on the earth like King David was, and a “Messiah son of Joseph” who will be rejected by his brothers, mistreated, left for dead but will eventually reappear and save not only the nation of Israel but the world like Joseph did in the book of Genesis.
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#1. To: GarySpFC, liberator, Don, A Pole, BobCeleste, wmfights, tomder55, Vicomte13 (#0)
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"“Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. He is not here; for He is risen, as He said." (Matthew 28:5,6)
Very interesting. A Dead Sea Scroll written in ink on stone. Doing a search, I stumbled over this site with a lot of interesting commentary and analysis. It features the writing of Israel Knohl, an expert in first century Judaism and manuscripts. Blogspot: It's In The Text Knohl's 2008 translation:
Good find. I will have to examine Knohl's works. I remember Gary mentioning these finds a few years ago but could not find much on it. Then the post by Rosenberg.
"“Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. He is not here; for He is risen, as He said." (Matthew 28:5,6)
#2. To: redleghunter, Vicomte13, BobCeleste, Don (#1)
Col. 1
1. [ ] ……..
2. [ ] Lord
3. [ ] . [ ] .
4. [ f]or th[us sa]id the Lo[rd] I have betr[oth]ed you to me,
garden
5. [ ]… ..[
6. and I will talk …. …. [
7. [ ] children of Israel …. [?]…[ ] ...[ ] ….
8. son of David [?] ……[
9. [ ] the word of the Lor[d]
10. [ ] …. ….. ….. ….. you have asked … [?]
11. [?] Lord you have asked me, so said the God of Hosts
12. [ ] .. from my house Israel and I will talk about the greatness of
Jerusalem
13. [Thus] said the Lord, God of Israel, now all the nations
14. … enc[amp] on Jerusalem and from it are exi[led]
15. one two three forty Prophets and the elders
16. and the Hasidim. My servant David, ask of Ephraim
17. [that he] place the sign; (this) I ask of you. For thus said
18. the Lord of Hosts, the God of Israel, my gardens are ripe,
19. My holy thing for Israel. By three days you shall know, for thus said
20. the Lord of Hosts, the God of Israel, the evil has been broken
21. before righteousness. Ask me, and I shall tell you, what is this
22. wicked branch, plastered white. You are standing, the angel
23. is supporting you. Do not fear. Blessed is the glory of the Lord God
from
24. his seat. In a little while, I will shake
25. .. the heavens and the earth. Here is the glory of the Lord God
26. of Hosts, the God of Israel, These are the seven chariots
27. at the gate of Jerusalem and the gates of Judea they will re[st] for
28. my three angels, Michael and all the others, look for
29. your power. So said of the Lord God of Hosts, the God
30. of Israel. One two three four five six
31. [se]ven for my angels….. what is this? He said, the frontlet
32. …. [ ] …. ……. and the second chief
33. watches on.. Jerusalem …… three in the greatness
34. …………….. three [ ] …..
35. [ ] …. . that he saw a man … works [
36. that he …. [ ] that a sign from Jerusalem
37. I on ...[ ] ashes and a sign of exile ..
38. [s]ign of exile ……. God sin … and see
39. …. … [ ] Jerusalem said the Lord
40. ………… ……. That his mist will fill most of the moon
41. [ ] blood that the northerner would become maggoty
42. [ ]abhorrence the diseased spot . in all
43. [ ] . God [
44. [ ] . [?]
Col. 2 (There are no legible words before line 51)
51. with you (or: your nation) ….
52. .. the angels [ ] from ... on [ ] ..
53. … and tomorrow to … they will rest … big .. .. ..
54. [by] three days this is what [I have] said He
55. these are [
56. please see the north[erner] enca[mps] [
57. Seal up the blood of the slaughtered of Jerusalem. For thus said the
Lord of Hos[ts]
58. the God of Israel, So said the Lord of Hosts the God of
59. Israel [
60. … He will have pity .. His mercy are ne[ar]
61. [ ] blessed ? …
62. daughter ? …
63. …
64. [ ] …[ ] beloved ?
65. Three holy ones of the world from.... [ ]
66. [ ] shalom he said, in you we trust … [?]
67. Announce him of blood, this is their chariot.
68. Many are those who love the Lord of Hosts, the God of Israel
69. Thus said the Lord of Hosts, the God of Israel ….[?]
70. prophets. I sent to my people my three shepherds. I will say (?)
71. that I have seen bless[ing]… …. Go say(?)
72. The place for David the servant of the Lord [ ]...[ ] .. [ ]
73. The heaven and the earth, blessed …… [ ]
74. men. Showing steadfast love to thousands …. steadfast love. [ ]
75. Three shepherds went out for Israel … [ ]…
76. If there is a priest, if there are sons of holy ones ....[ ]
77. Who am I? I am Gabriel …….. [ ]
78. You will rescue them………….. for two [ ] ...[ ]
79. from before of you the three si[g]ns three .. [ ]
80. In three days, live, I Gabriel com[mand] yo[u],
81. prince of the princes, the dung of the rocky crevices [ ]... ..[ ]
82. to the visions (?) … their tongue (?) [ ] … those who love me
83. to me, from the three, the small one that I took, I Gabriel
84. Lord of Hosts Gd of Is[rael] [
85. then you will stand …
86. … /
87. … world ? /
#3. To: TooConservative, GarySpFc (#2)
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