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Published: Apr 2, 2015
Author: Fish Guy
Post Date: 2015-04-02 22:52:45 by Chuck_Wagon
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Jump to: navigation, search Hybrid striped bass hybrid striped bass Scientific classification Kingdom: Animalia Phylum: Chordata Class: Actinopterygii Order: Perciformes Family: Moronidae Genus: Morone Species: M. chrysops x M. saxatilis Binomial name M. chrysops x M. saxatilis A hybrid striped bass, also known as a wiper or whiterock bass, is a hybrid between the striped bass (Morone saxatilis) and the white bass (M. chrysops). It can be distinguished from the striped bass by broken rather than solid horizontal stripes on the body. Hybrid striped bass are considered better suited for culture in ponds than either parent species because they are more resilient to extremes of temperature and to low dissolved oxygen. They became part of aquaculture in the United States in the late 1980s. Most producers purchase the fish young (as fry or fingerlings) and raise them in freshwater ponds. Currently, about 10 million lb (4.5 million kg) are produced annually in the United States. Hybrid striped bass are used both as a gamefish and a food fish. Most ot these fish are produced by fertilizing eggs from white bass with sperm from striped bass; the resulting fish are also called "sunshine bass" or "Cherokee bass". Hybrid striped bass are known for aggressive feeding habits which makes them highly sought-after by anglers. Often schooling by the thousands, these stocked fish surface feed on baitfish such as shad. Often called "breaking", this surface feeding makes the fish visible and easy to catch on a wide array of lures and baits. Popular lures include casting spoons, buck-tail jigs, soft-body plastic fish replicas, and inline spinners. Their quality as a hard-fighting gamefish is closely followed by their delicious firm, white, flaky meat. Many restaurants sell "striped bass" on their menus, but these are farm-raised hybrid striped bass. Origins are from 1970's, when the first hybrids were stocked in Cherokee Lake in Tennessee. They became known as Cherokee bass, but most commonly are called 'hybrid' (Southeast) or 'wiper' (Midwest). They are stocked in dozens of large impoundments to control baitfish populations and provide sport for anglers. Produced in hatcheries, the most common hybridization is the female striped bass Morone saxatilis and the male white bass M. chrysops. This is due to the high number of eggs produced by the female striped bass. This hybrid cross typically produces a faster-growing offspring which attains larger size. The female striped bass is injected with human gonadotropin which stimulates her to lay. Usually, around a dozen male white bass are in the tank when the spawn occurs. Once the eggs are fertilized, the brood fish are removed and the eggs must stay adrift in artificial current for about 48 hours to hatch. Natural hybridization has been occurring for thousands of years between the species, but it is usually the reverse cross which would be male M. saxatilis x female M. chrysops, since the white bass eggs do not require the same degree of flotation to hatch. Their main diet includes bluegill, sunfish, fathead minnows, and black crappie.
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#1. To: Chuck_Wagon (#0)
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I have the feeling that striped bass is on the menu at Chez Chuckwagon. A nice choice for a Good Friday preceding Easter, even for rabid carnivorous Prots.
Nope. Maryland style crab cakes.
If you're not cooking any striped bass yet, you're coveting some. We know you, Chuck. : )
Hey - I fished for striped bass with my dad starting when
Quite a few Texas lakes have stocked them over the years and we used to fish for them during the Spring, Fall and anytime some good heavy rains pass thru. At these particular times the "Hybrids" are chasing baitfish in the upper water column and are easier to pattern and fish for. They like to hunt in packs and will push baitfish up against a bluff, dropoff or point then go in for the kill. Hybrids can get up to 25lbs and pull like a Mack truck. But you can't play them until they calm down cause they will pull until they go belly up, so you have to use oversized tackle and manhandle them somewhat. Which means it's a hell of a lot more dangerous removing treble hooked lures from a "hot" fish vs a tired/calm fish. One of my old fishing buddies can testify to that when he ended up with a treble buried in his finger clear up to the shank, and the other trebles was still in the mouth of a 10lb Hybrid flopping around the deck. (This is where Superglue in your tackle box comes in handy for on the water surgical procedures) :) We used a variety of lures on them but predominately heavy jointed topwater minnows, full size spinnerbaits, rattletraps and spoons. Using the topwater minnows were the funnest cause you could watch the fish react/stalk/slash at your bait while you worked it. We used 5" and 6" Rebel Jointed minnows with 3X #2or4 treble hooks on them. You had to use the heavy plastic or saltwater versions cause they would destroy a wooden one in short order. The largest specimen I have seen was right about 15lbs and it was pulling the front end of the boat around. My buddy on the back was yelling "Hey were are you going the fish are over there, I yelled back "Well tell him cause he's the one driving the boat". I was using a 7'MH rod with 17lb mono and he had the rod bent clear over double and was taking drag. I told my buddy if you want to go after them then get up here and run the trolling motor and I went to the back deck to fight him. :) :) :)...
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Me and my Dad used to fish for REAL striped bass off We're talking 30, 40 and 50 pound suckers.
63 pound striped bass
The current world record striper, the fourth Greg has caught, was landed on August 4, 2011 off Westbrook, CT. Tipping the scales at 81 lbs, 15 oz., Greg caught this beast of a fish on an eel using his patented RattleSinker™ and his signature Rattling technique. It was the fourth time Greg has broken the world record. They can supposedly get up to 125lbs and live around 30 years. Wonder how much a 125lber would have to eat in a day to keep going? (A lot)!
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
So were you using live bait?
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
'Live-Lining' live eels always seemed to work best. But actually, when I couldn't get any live eels, I had And I also sometimes used Rebel plugs. I had one that was EDIT: I used to 'Live-Line' live mullet too, now that I think of it.
There is this place called 'Seven Bridges' (Not the Eagles song) Once I hooked what I thought was a large striper - and it And heck - here is an aerial video of this Seven bridges https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwau9pSQ0yo
So did he buy his heads pre-made or did he pour them himself and dip them? You just reminded me that sometimes around standing timber we would use big grubs with a leadhead.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
I've never really used any live bait for fishing except when I take the kids crappie/bluegill fishing. I have such a horde/collection of artificial lures that it isn't funny. I used to have a hard time deciding what I was going to put in the boat for that day (especially soft plastics, figured the more colors the better) and what to leave at the house. But now I just take a few "sampler" boxes to cut down on the load in the boat. Taking so much stuff makes me have the tendency of skipping around instead of concentrating on a few places/depths I know they should be. One of these days I'm gonna get me a house/dock on a good lake and won't have to worry about what I take. If what I take isn't working (or I run out) run back up the lake to the house real quick and get something more/else. The problem with this is will the wife be willing to move back to Texas and live 20-50 miles out of town??? Some days I think she would love to and other days "NO WAY IN HELL". :)
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
I've been to Texas a few times on business.
I just noticed that I didn't answer your above question. Simple answer is - I don't remember. I DO know that he poured his own lead weights - sinkers.
I just wondered cause before Bass Pro Shops was well known most of what you bought was at someplace like a small tackle shop or KMart, Woolworths or something similar. Sometimes finding what you wanted was almost impossible and so people would do it themselves. Its only been in the last 10-12 years or so I could find unfinished leadheads with quality (Gamakatsu) hooks on them. Once I started buying them all the other ones with Eagle Claw hooks on them were taken out of my tackle bags and were given to kids or beginners to learn with.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Either local small bait and tackle shops, or those
The only decent tackle shop left in my area is Fisherman's Headquarters and it isn't that big, maybe 6-700 sq ft of floor space. http://www.fishermanshqohio.com/Pages/default.aspx
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Creek Keepers
#2. To: TooConservative (#1)
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...striped bass is on the menu at Chez Chuckwagon...
And we're not even Catholic!
#3. To: Chuck_Wagon (#2)
#4. To: TooConservative (#3)
We know you, Chuck. : )
I was ten. I caught my first bluefish when I was 8.
Hey.
#5. To: Chuck_Wagon (#0)
#6. To: CZ82 (#5)
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beaches, bridges, and jettys. Salt water.
Now THAT is fishing.
#7. To: CZ82 (#5)
#8. To: Chuck_Wagon (#7)
#9. To: Chuck_Wagon (#6)
#10. To: CZ82 (#9)
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So were you using live bait?
At least of the things I tried.
some bucktails that would work pretty good.
My Dad actually made his own bucktails out in the garage.
My Mom actually DIDN'T think he was nuts -
she actually went fishing with him before they got married
and up until Mom got too pregnant with me to do it.
silver and blue that seemed to work pretty good.
But live eels were the superior thing. 
#11. To: CZ82 (#9)
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off of Tuckerton, New Jersey, that had a number of cuts
through the sod banks along the coastline there.
Fish would swim through there from the Egg Harbor inlet
to wherever.
barreled at top speed toward, and straight INTO the sod
bank. WHAM! Threw the hook, and got away. Amazing.
place via YouTube LOL -
#12. To: Chuck_Wagon (#10)
My Dad actually made his own bucktails out in the garage.
#13. To: Chuck_Wagon (#10)
'Live-Lining' live eels always seemed to work best. At least of the things I tried.
#14. To: CZ82 (#13)
...is the wife be willing to move back to Texas and live 20-50 miles out of town?
But I've never lived there. Good luck to you!
#15. To: CZ82 (#12)
So did he buy his heads pre-made or did he pour them himself and dip them?
I thought I had - duh...
I don't remember him pouring the bucktail heads though.
I think he just bought those. Somewhere or other.
#16. To: Chuck_Wagon (#15)
#17. To: CZ82 (#16)
...most of what you bought was at someplace like a small tackle shop...
down on the Jersey Shore. Small individually
owned places.
#18. To: Chuck_Wagon (#17)
#19. To: CZ82 (#18)
...The only decent tackle shop left in my area...
1130 S Black Horse Pike, Blackwood, NJ 08012
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