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Title: Scientists Say New Study Is A ‘Death Blow’ To Global Warming Hysteria
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Published: Apr 1, 2015
Author: Michaels and Knappenberger.
Post Date: 2015-04-01 09:07:20 by tpaine
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Views: 2676
Comments: 18

dailycaller.com

Scientists Say New Study Is A ‘Death Blow’ To Global Warming Hysteria

A new study out of Germany casts further doubt on the so-called global warming “consensus” by suggesting the atmosphere may be less sensitive to increases in carbon dioxide emissions than most scientists think.

A study by scientists at Germany’s Max Planck Institute for Meteorology found that man-made aerosols had a much smaller cooling effect on the atmosphere during the 20th Century than was previously thought. Why is this big news? It means increases in carbon dioxide emissions likely cause less warming than most climate models suggest.

What do aerosols have to do with anything? Well, aerosols are created from human activities like burning coal, driving cars or from fires. There are also natural aerosols like clouds and fog. Aerosols tend to reflect solar energy back into space, giving them a cooling effect that somewhat offsets warming from increased CO2 emissions.

The Max Planck study suggests “that aerosol radiative forcing is less negative and more certain than is commonly believed.” In layman’s terms, aerosols are offsetting less global warming than was previously thought. And if aerosols aren’t causing as much cooling, it must mean carbon dioxide must be causing less warming than climate models predict.

“Going forward we should expect less warming from future greenhouse gas emissions than climate models are projecting,” write climate scientists Pat Michaels and Chip Knappenberger with the libertarian Cato Institute, adding that this study could be a “death blow” to global warming hysteria.

Independent climate researcher Nick Lewis put out a study last year with Georgia Tech’s Dr. Judith Curry that found that the climate’s response to a doubling of atmospheric CO2 levels — a measurement called “climate sensitivity” was 1.64 degrees Celsius.

Lewis revised his findings based on the Max Planck aerosol study and found something astounding: climate sensitivity drops dramatically. Lewis also looked at climate sensitivity estimates given by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change — often regarded as the world’s top authority on global warming.

The IPCC’s latest assessment put climate sensitivity between 1.5 and 4.5 degrees Celsius. The IPCC says that despite “the large uncertainty range, there is a high confidence that aerosols have offset a substantial portion of [greenhouse gas] global mean forcing.”

Basically, the IPCC says aerosols deflect a lot of warming — the opposite of the Max Planck study’s finding.

But incorporating the results from the Max Planck study dramatically reduces the upper bound estimate of climate sensitivity from 4.5 degrees to 1.8 degrees Celsius.

To put this into perspective, atmospheric concentrations of CO2 currently stand at around 400 parts per million, if this were to double, according to the IPCC’s estimates temperatures could rise as high as 4.5 degrees Celsius.

But incorporate the Max Planck study results and warming would only be as high as 1.8 degrees Celsius — less than half what the IPCC originally predicted.

Michaels and Knappenberger say Lewis’s findings basically eliminate “the possibility of catastrophic climate change—that is, climate change that proceeds at a rate that exceeds our ability to keep up.”

“Such a result will also necessarily drive down estimates of social cost of carbon thereby undermining a key argument use by federal agencies to support increasingly burdensome regulations which seek to reduce greenhouse gas emissions,” write Michaels and Knappenberger.

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#1. To: tpaine (#0)

write climate scientists Pat Michaels and Chip Knappenberger with the libertarian Cato Institute,

Willie Green  posted on  2015-04-01   9:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Willie Green (#1) (Edited)

--- with the libertarian Cato Institute, with the libertarian Cato Institute, ---

Gee willie, -- CATO! --- that libertarian sink tank of perfidy!

-- Yep, that sure proves your point!

BTW, what is your point?

tpaine  posted on  2015-04-01   9:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tpaine (#0)

Attack the messenger/source in 3 . . . 2 . . . . 1 . . . .

Oops . . . too late.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-04-01   10:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rufus T Firefly (#3)

Ya gotta be quick to beat out slick Willy.

tpaine  posted on  2015-04-01   10:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tpaine, Rufus T Firefly (#4)

Cato "scientists" have no scientific crediblity whatsoever.
They are paid to disseminate misinformation favorable to corporate political interests.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-04-01   10:41:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Willie Green (#5)

Cato "scientists" have no scientific crediblity whatsoever. They are paid to disseminate misinformation favorable to corporate political interests.

Attempt to prove it, --- post your own credible source that makes that claim.

tpaine  posted on  2015-04-01   11:13:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Willie Green (#5)

They are paid to disseminate misinformation favorable to corporate political interests.

And the global hotting scientists get paid grants to flack Big Gov's pet theory.

So what. People do expect to get paid.

You're not refuting their work. You're just stating the obvious.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-01   11:21:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative, willy green (#7)

A new study out of Germany casts further doubt on the so-called global warming “consensus” by suggesting the atmosphere may be less sensitive to increases in carbon dioxide emissions than most scientists think.

A study by scientists at Germany’s Max Planck Institute for Meteorology found that man-made aerosols had a much smaller cooling effect on the atmosphere during the 20th Century than was previously thought.

Notice that Willy (capt obvious) is attacking the Cato scientists, not those from the Planck Institute.

tpaine  posted on  2015-04-01   11:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tpaine (#6)

post your own credible source that makes that claim.

SourceWatch: Cato Institute -- "Where ideology and science part company, Cato favors ideology..."

Cato "scientists" are even still defending Joe Camel, even though the detriment health effects of tabacco are well establish. They have ZERO credibility, and are simply paid corporate shills and conartists.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-04-01   11:46:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: tomder55 (#0)

PING

"For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us" (Isaiah 33:22)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-01   11:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Willie Green (#9)

From your source: ---

ABOUT US The Center for Media and Democracy (CMD) is a boutique investigative research and reporting group with a demonstrated capacity to break major news stories and highlight the work of advocates. Located in Madison, Wisconsin, it is a national, non-profit watchdog organization, founded in 1993. CMD's niche is investigating and exposing the undue influence of corporations and front groups on public policy, including PR campaigns, lobbying, and electioneering. CMD's original reporting helps educate the public and aids grassroots action about policies affecting people’s lives—their rights and the health of our democracy.

CMD publishes PRWatch.org, ALECexposed.org, and SourceWatch.org.

Its special investigations, in addition to ALECexposed which CMD launched in 2011, include OutsourcingAmericaExposed, NFIBexposed, Fix the Debt/the Pete Peterson Pyramid, the State Policy Network Exposed (stinktanks.org), BanksterUSA, and the Food Rights Network, among others. CMD also hosts CoalSwarm and FrackSwarm on CMD's SourceWatch website. CMD has also done extensive work documenting and exposing dark money in federal and state politics, including original breakthrough reporting about the influence of the Koch brothers. Based on these investigations, CMD has called for amending the Constitution to repeal the Supreme Court's decision in the "Citizens United" case and related cases expanding the power of money and corporations in American democracy.

CMD's ongoing investigation of ALEC -- along with the corporations bankrolling its operations and "scholarships" for legislators to attend posh resorts where corporate lobbyists and elected officials vote behind closed doors on "model" legislation to change Americans' rights -- has transformed the national conversation about these issues and has been featured in national and international TV and print, including in a documentary narrated by Bill Moyers: "United States of ALEC."

Our recent awards include: --- the "Izzy" I.F. Stone Award for outstanding achievement in independent media (shared with Democracy Now! correspondent Sharif Abdel Kouddous) from the Park Center for Independent Media; ----- the Sidney Award (shared jointly with The Nation) from the Sidney Hillman Foundation; and ----- the annual Professional Freedom and Responsibility Award from the Association for Education in Journalism and Mass Communication, Culture and Critical Studies Division, whose past recipients include Izzy Stone, Bill Moyers, and Molly Ivins. ----- and a "Benny" from the Business Ethics Network…
Good golly Willy, this outfit has quite the credibility! --- Thanks for making my point....

tpaine  posted on  2015-04-01   12:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: redleghunter, tpaine, Willie Green, Too Conservative, Rufus T Firefly (#10)

The Max Planck Society has a world-leading reputation as a science and technology research organization, with 33 Nobel Prizes awarded to their scientists, and are generally regarded as the foremost basic research organization in Europe and the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Planck_Society

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-04-01   12:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: tpaine (#8)

Notice that Willy (capt obvious) is attacking the Cato scientists, not those from the Planck Institute.

I noticed. Cato reported what an institute with drawers full of Nobel prizes discovered.

I'm tracking so is everyone but....

"For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us" (Isaiah 33:22)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-01   12:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tpaine (#11)

Its special investigations, in addition to ALECexposed which CMD launched in 2011, include OutsourcingAmericaExposed,

COOL! CMD/SourceWatch was a much better source than I was aware of... Thanks for the info!

Willie Green  posted on  2015-04-01   12:35:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter (#13)

Cato reported distorted what an institute with drawers full of Nobel prizes discovered.

There... fixed it for ya...

Willie Green  posted on  2015-04-01   12:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Willie Green, tpaine, Rufus T Firefly, TooConservative, All (#5)

Cato "scientists" have no scientific crediblity whatsoever.

Willie, oh Wille, dear Wille, you willingly ignorant fool. I guess you are not aware that every...as in all bar none....of the temperature prediction models put forth but the various Global Warming religious sects have consistently...as in at all times.......significantly over predicted the actual observed historical temperature rise going back for decades now - with IPCC being at the head of the pack.

I guess you are not aware tha NASA concluded that the melting of the Martian polar ice caps is due to global warming on Earth.

Willie, oh Wille, dear Wille, you willingly ignorant fool.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-04-01   12:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Willie Green (#15)

Cato reported distorted what an institute with drawers full of Nobel prizes discovered.

There... fixed it for ya...

Dream on Willy, that you've made any valid points, -- or fixed anything...

You've become the forum clown.. Just like you were over at LP..

tpaine  posted on  2015-04-01   13:04:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Willie Green (#15)

How so?

"For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us" (Isaiah 33:22)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-01   15:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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