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Corrupt Government Title: Obama to Catholic Church: Treat Divorced People and Gays Differently Or Else Obama to Catholic Church: Treat Divorced People and Gays Differently Or Else By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | March 30th, 2015 at 04:24 PM | 50 The Catholic Church operates a private school in Macon, Georgia. Flint Dollar was their band teacher. He is openly gay. The Catholic Church position is that being gay is not, in and of itself a sin. Rather, non-marital sex is a sin. Likewise, marriage is a sacrament in the Catholic Church — a bond between one man and one woman. The Catholic Church does not approve of people teaching at Mount de Sales if they’ve violated the sacraments of the church. Teachers who get divorced are let go. Flint Dollar also wants to violate a sacrament of the church. He wants to get married to another man. The Church, as a result, dismissed him. Now the Obama Administration is telling the Catholic Church it must treat gays and divorced heterosexuals differently Flint Dollar sued claiming he was not conforming to his gender because he wants to marry a guy. The EEOC says they’re fine with that. http://www.macon.com/2015/03/30/3668458_eeoc-issues-determination-letter.html?rh=1 Pope Francis and the Catholic Church will be made to care — on the same day Georgia Republicans have said RFRA is not needed in Georgia. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest EEOC says they’re fine with that ... Georgia Republicans have said RFRA is not needed in Georgia. A gibberish. What does EEOC or RFRA mean? Eastern Eagle Occidental Cooperative? Really Foolish Republican Association?
#2. To: CZ82 (#0) Test of power. We'll see what happens. My bet is that there will be a court challenge, and a federal court will uphold the Catholic school's right to continue to police its staff for religious conformity.
#3. To: A Pole (#1) Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Religious Freedom Restoration Act “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.†#4. To: CZ82 (#3) TYVM
#5. To: A Pole (#4) YW “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.†#6. To: CZ82, A Pole (#5) IHA
#7. To: TooConservative (#6) You don't like acronyms? If you had been military you would have been exposed to them on a daily basis, like "SNAFU" for instance. :) “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.†#8. To: TooConservative (#6) TYVM YW IHA HUH?
#9. To: CZ82 (#0) Obama to Catholic Church: Treat Divorced People and Gays Differently Or Else What is Obama's intention to do now, ban the Catholic church by executive order?
#10. To: rlk (#9) What is Obama's intention to do now To Assume Dominion over the faith of others, evidently.
#11. To: CZ82, *Religious History and Issues* (#0) Just pinging the list. "For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us" (Isaiah 33:22) #12. To: CZ82 (#7) If you had been military you would have been exposed to them on a daily basis, like "SNAFU" for instance. :) My favorite which has historical roots is "FUBAR." One "word" which senior NCOs understand and no further explanation is needed.
For example if the motorpool was a bit messy before Friday final formation and inspection, I would say "First Sergeant so and so needs to fix xy and z. He knew I was being picky. But if I said the motorpool was FUBAR, he knew the mp was coined up and some NCOs would be staying late to fix it. "For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us" (Isaiah 33:22) #13. To: Vicomte13 (#8) TYVM YW IHA
#14. To: TooConservative (#13) TYVM YW IHA CIJMOU? Can I Just Make One Up? In the Navy, there is (or at least there was, in the 1980s), the DICNAVAB, the "Dictionary of Navy Abbreviations". It was a real publication. NS!
#15. To: CZ82 (#0) Now the Obama Administration is telling the Catholic Church it must treat gays and divorced heterosexuals differently Obama takes penis in the ass. Who cares what that faggot says thinks or does. The Secret Service should punch him in the nose.
#16. To: CZ82 (#0) Flint Dollar was their band teacher. He is openly gay. With a name like "Flint Dollar" (hard buck),who would have ever guessed? The Catholic Church does not approve of people teaching at Mount de Sales if they’ve violated the sacraments of the church. Teachers who get divorced are let go. Flint Dollar also wants to violate a sacrament of the church. He wants to get married to another man. The Church, as a result, dismissed him. Ok,while it might be a slight stretch of the imagination to say I am a fan of the Catholic Church,they are a business,and have the same damn right to hire and fire anyone they want,for any reason at all,or for no reason at all. Neither Flint Dollar (I wonder what his birth name was?) nor anyone else has a Constitutionally protected RIGHT to work anywhere they want if that business doesn't want to hire them. The US Constitution prevents the GOVERNMENT from discriminating. Any citizen is free to discriminate against anyone and everyone they want because citizens have a guaranteed Constitution RIGHT to "freedom of association". This includes citizens that own or manage businesses that deal with the public. You don't like their policies,don't go to work for them and don't do business with them. Now the Obama Administration is telling the Catholic Church it must treat gays and divorced heterosexuals differently We know this ignorant half-breed buffoon hates white people because his mother didn't pick a white father for him,but is he really so stupid that he thinks he can take on the Catholic Church IN THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #17. To: Vicomte13 (#2) My bet is that there will be a court challenge, and a federal court will uphold the Catholic school's right to continue to police its staff for religious conformity. Depends on which state it goes to court. If it goes to court in a heavily Catholic state,Constitutional Law will prevail,even if for the wrong reasons. If it goes to court in a non-Catholic area,it's a toss-up. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #18. To: CZ82 (#3) Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Typical goobermint distortion. They name agencies to imply they do the direct opposite of what they really do. FACT: The government does NOT have the Constitutional Right to tell ANYBODY who they can hire or fire. Period. The ONLY "equal opportunity employer" is THEM since they represent "The People" and by Constitutional Law the government MUST treat ALL citizens equally. Ironically enough,thanks to EEOC laws the government is by FAR the BIGGEST employment discriminator in the entire nation,thanks to EEO laws that promote Affirmative Action. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #19. To: rlk (#9) What is Obama's intention to do now, ban the Catholic church by executive order? His homies with names like "20 Mule Team Abdullah Mohammed Washington" might like it,but I suspect the His and Her Panics ain't going to be real happy wid him. Not that he cares. He is never going to run for President again,and thanks to him chances are there won't be another black president for at least 100 years. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #20. To: sneakypete (#17) Depends on which state it goes to court. If it goes to court in a heavily Catholic state,Constitutional Law will prevail,even if for the wrong reasons. At the trial level, perhaps. But then it gets appealed. And if the appeals court gets it wrong, the Supreme Court will get it right. No state is going to get to impose staff on the Catholic Church. States have been trying to impose all sorts of things on the Church for over a century. They always lose. If the locals don't stop it the legislature does. If the legislature doesn't stop it then an governor does. If they don't, the Feds do, either politically or judicially. There are 6 Catholics on the Supreme Court. The law isn't going to stand.
#21. To: CZ82 (#0) Now the Obama Administration is telling the Catholic Church it must treat gays and divorced heterosexuals differently Flint Dollar sued claiming he was not conforming to his gender because he wants to marry a guy. The EEOC says they’re fine with that. Every time Obolo makes a flippant remark or 'suggestion' some Executive order follows. This was not a suggestion but a threat. "For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us" (Isaiah 33:22) #22. To: sneakypete (#19) His homies with names like "20 Mule Team Abdullah Mohammed Washington" Freakin' hilarious.
#23. To: redleghunter, CZ82 (#21) Every time Obolo makes a flippant remark or 'suggestion' some Executive order follows. Yup. And the GOP has not once yet stepped in and halted the psycho-in-chief's run on the table. If the 1A falls, the 2A in the Left's bomb-site. The Kenyan is tone-deaf to and devoid of ANY sense of propriety or consequence. He WELCOMES chaos and destruction. The Left (aided and abetted by GOP Statists) is conducting a Scorched Earth policy, backed by America's own institutions. With 22 months or so left to his reign of unconstitutional terror, he's going to What's absolutely alarming is the lack of organized, fervant push-back from OUR side.
#24. To: sneakypete (#17) If it goes to court in a heavily Catholic state,Constitutional Law will prevail,even if for the wrong reasons. If Constitutional Law hasn't mattered in the courts (or Congress) till now during the 0bola Era, what makes you believe the previous methods of PTB coercion (blackmail, threats, bribes) won't continue to prevail?
#25. To: Vicomte13 (#20) No state is going to get to impose staff on the Catholic Church. States have been trying to impose all sorts of things on the Church for over a century. They always lose. If the locals don't stop it the legislature does. If the legislature doesn't stop it then an governor does. If they don't, the Feds do, either politically or judicially. 6 Catholics on the SC, but how many are Dem, subversive, Leftist, gay, or blackmailed? They are compromised. Despite all those Fail-Safe mechanisms in place, NOTHING has stopped Nero from implementing a single piece of subversive/unconstitutional policy. And I don't see any much organized outrage and opposition from the supposed 40 million Catholics (yet we see a hurricane of jihadism from the 1 1/2% of the population that's queer.) Too much seems to be askew; The Fix appears to be in.
#26. To: CZ82 (#3) (Edited) Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Can you imagine the mutants-in-charge at this place? ("You MUST hire this pedophile-rapist-jihadist-murderer-gay-black-tranny-atheist, because THAT is OUR LAW!! Or else we'll prosecute you and shut down your church for discrimination!!")
#27. To: Liberator (#23) What's absolutely alarming is the lack of organized, fervant push-back from OUR side. That's the problem - we don't have a side. Only the GOP. And they're a joke, not an oppositon party.
#28. To: Rufus T Firefly (#27) Funny how that's worked out, eh? The GOP wound up as our evil step-mother and we are Cinderella. I guess the more we're beaten, the more our morale is supposed to improve. The GOPe is despicable. Since we're now NOT two, but actually THREE countries-in-one, let's just divvy it all up ASAP. This is ridiculous.
#29. To: Liberator (#23) What's absolutely alarming is the lack of organized, fervant push-back from OUR side. Catholic push back is always organized, and cross-jurisdictional, and at times even involves international diplomacy.
#30. To: redleghunter (#21) This was not a suggestion but a threat. Bring it on.
#31. To: Vicomte13 (#30) redleghunter The Apostolic churches survived worse. The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church.
#32. To: Liberator (#25) Despite all those Fail-Safe mechanisms in place, NOTHING has stopped Nero from implementing a single piece of subversive/unconstitutional policy. Hobby Lobby stopped the contraception mandate. The Catholic Church does not care about all of the things that American conservatives care about. It cares about the things that IT cares about. And the major threat posed by Obama on THOSE vectors was mandatory birth control. 5 of the 6 Catholic justices on the Supreme Court voted in Hobby Lobby to uphold the religious exception to the health care mandate. The Catholic Church isn't providing contraception, and the Supreme Court said it didn't have to.
#33. To: Vicomte13, liberator (#30) This was not a suggestion but a threat. Well "bringing it on" will accomplish a house cleaning no doubt. How many Cardinals, bishops, theologians, pastors etc. will melt like butter under pressure. From prior observations----quite a many. "For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us" (Isaiah 33:22) #34. To: redleghunter (#33) Well "bringing it on" will accomplish a house cleaning no doubt. Not on anything structural that I can recall.
#35. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter (#34) Not on anything structural that I can recall. Perhaps but the paraphrase the Pope "who are they to judge?". потому что Бог хочет это тот путь #36. To: SOSO (#35) Perhaps but the paraphrase the Pope "who are they to judge?". Who are who to judge what?
#37. To: Vicomte13 (#36) Perhaps but the paraphrase the Pope "who are they to judge?". Who are who to judge what? The church and anybody. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь #38. To: Liberator (#26) Can you imagine the mutants-in-charge at this place? Yes I can. I had a run in with the military version of the EEOC, they tried to get me charged with discrimination without doing their due diligence. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.†#39. To: sneakypete (#16) We know this ignorant half-breed buffoon hates white people because his mother didn't pick a white father for him,but is he really so stupid that he thinks he can take on the Catholic Church IN THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES? I'm curious as to how many of the House and Senate Democrats are actually willing to go along with this considering most of them are Catholic?? “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.†#40. To: A K A Stone (#15) Who cares what that faggot says thinks or does. I guess I've lived in the wrong neighborhoods all my life cause I didn't know there were that many totally insane people in this country. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.†#41. To: CZ82 (#38) I had a run in with the military version of the EEOC, they tried to get me charged with discrimination without doing their due diligence. HA! Ya gotta be kidding. Tried to bust your nuts? So the lazy mutant-in-charge just flung the baboon poop, fully unprepared. Figures. All these misfit people do is bully whomever around whenever possible under the flimsiest of cases with. Their newly-ironed brownshirts and shiny shield intoxicate them.
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