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politics and politicians Title: Reporter Who Exposed Hillary’s Secret Intel Operation: Who Authorized & Financed It? One of the reporters who exposed what appears to have been former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s clandestine and rogue intelligence service said that there are more questions than answers regarding the operation, which was exposed in the hacked emails of Clinton’s longtime confidante Sidney Blumenthal. Appearing on Breitbart News Sunday on Sirius XM Patriot channel 125, Jeff Gerth, a two-time Pulitzer Prize winner, told host and Breitbart News Executive Chairman Stephen K. Bannon that he still wanted to know “who authorized or tasked this network to do what they did” and “who was paying for this?” Gerth, the former New York Times reporter who now works for ProPublica, co- authored the report on Clinton’s rogue intelligence operation with Gawker’s Sam Biddle. He said the intelligence operation revealed in the Blumenthal emails reminds him of the Ed Wilson scandal in Libya and the Iran-Contra scandal. He noted that in both cases people were sent to jail or convicted of various crimes. “You don’t just pick this stuff up from the Internet,” he said, noting “there were human intelligence sources inside of Libya that were gathering this information” and relaying it to Blumenthal, who then forwarded the accounts to Clinton’s private email account. Gerth emphasized that the Blumenthal emails are “just a minor tiny percentage of what was going on here.” He said “we got a few pieces but don’t have anywhere near the full puzzle” because journalists have to work “with what the hacker chose to download” and take screenshots of two years ago. According to the Gawker/ProPublica report, “starting weeks before Islamic militants attacked the U.S. diplomatic outpost in Benghazi, Libya, longtime Clinton family confidante Sidney Blumenthal supplied intelligence to then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gathered by a secret network that included a former CIA clandestine service officer.” Blumenthal’s emails “include at least a dozen detailed reports on events on the deteriorating political and security climate in Libya as well as events in other nations” and they came to light when a Hacker called Guccifer posted them in 2013. On August 23, 2012, less than three weeks before the Benghazi attacks that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, an email, according to the report, cites “‘an extremely sensitive source’ who highlighted a string of bombings and kidnappings of foreign diplomats and aid workers in Tripoli, Benghazi and Misrata, suggesting they were the work of people loyal to late Libyan Prime Minister Muammar Gaddafi.” As the report points out, Hillary Clinton claimed “that U.S. intelligence officials didn’t have advance knowledge” of security threats in Benghazi, but Blumenthal’s email “portrays a deteriorating security climate” even if the memo, according to Gawker, “doesn’t rise to the level of a warning about the safety of U.S. diplomats.” On the day after the Benghazi attacks, Blumenthal reportedly sent an email sent an email saying a “sensitive source” said that interim Libyan president Mohammed Yussef el Magariaf “was told by a senior security officer” that the Benghazi attacks were “inspired by an anti-Muslim video made in the U.S,” which was the Obama administration’s preferred spin. The next day, though, Blumenthal reportedly sent an email that “said Libyan security officials believed an Islamist radical group called the Ansa al Sharia brigade had prepared the attack a month in advance and ‘took advantage of the cover’ provided by the demonstrations against the video.” Another email in October of 2012 notes “that Magariaf and the Libyan army chief of staff agree that the ‘situation in the country is becoming increasingly dangerous and unmanageable’ and ‘far worse’ than Western leaders realize.” The report notes that though the intelligence notes were sent under Blumenthal’s name, they “appear to have been gathered and prepared by Tyler Drumheller, a former chief of the CIA’s clandestine service in Europe who left the agency in 2005.” He has since reportedly established a consulting firm– Tyler Drumheller, LLC. The emails also show that “Cody Shearer, a longtime Clinton family operative,” was also in “close contact with Blumenthal.” Blumenthal’s hacked emails also show that “he and his associates worked to help the Libyan opposition, and even plotted to insert operatives on the ground using a private contractor.” The emails reveal that Blumenthal and Shearer were negotiating with former Army General David Grange “to place send four operatives on a week-long mission to Tunis, Tunisia, and ‘to the border and back.'” Grange, “a major general in the Army who ran a secret Pentagon special operations unit before retiring in 1999,” according to the report, “subsequently founded Osprey Global Solutions, a consulting firm and government contractor that offers logistics, intelligence, security training, armament sales, and other services.” The Libyan National Transition Council and Grange’s Osprey Global Solutions, according to documents, agreed that Osprey would “‘assist in the resumption of access to its assets and operations in country’ and train Libyan forces in intelligence, weaponry, and ‘rule-of-land warfare.'” Another email reportedly shows that Drumheller appealed to “then-Libyan Prime Minister Ali Zeidan offering the services of Tyler Drumheller LLC, ‘to develop a program that will provide discreet confidential information allowing the appropriate entities in Libya to address any regional and international challenges.'” In addition to intelligence information from Libya, the Blumenthal memos, according to the report, “cover a wide array of subjects in extreme detail, from German Prime Minister Angela Merkel’s conversations with her finance minister about French president Francois Hollande–marked ‘THIS INFORMATION COMES FROM AN EXTREMELY SENSITIVE SOURCE’—to the composition of the newly elected South Korean president’s transition team.” A Clinton spokesman reportedly told the outlets that the Blumenthal emails were part of the nearly 33,000 pages of emails that Clinton turned over to the State Department. As the report notes, “Blumenthal, a New Yorker staff writer in the 1990s, became a top aide to President Bill Clinton and worked closely with Hillary Clinton during the fallout from the Whitewater investigation into the Clinton family.” Hillary Clinton even reportedly “tried to hire him when she joined President Obama’s cabinet in 2009, but White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel reportedly nixed the idea” because of Blumenthal’s attacks on Obama during the 2008 Democratic primary. On Breitbart News Sunday, Gerth also reminded listeners how close Blumenthal is to the Clintons–he was the last person, for instance, Hillary Clinton spoke to before she went on the Today show during the Monica Lewinsky affair to allege a “vast right-wing conspiracy” against the Clintons. The emails raise more questions about whether all of the more than 30,000 emails that Clinton deemed to be “personal” were really not “work-related.” Clinton refused to turn her email server over to a third party and Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC), who chairs the House Select Benghazi Committee, revealed on Friday that Clinton had wiped her email server “clean.” Gowdy, citing “huge gaps” in the emails that his committee has received, has indicated that there may be many relevant emails regarding Libya that Clinton may not have turned over, which is why he has indicated that the House may take legal action to get access to Clinton’s email server. “There are gaps of months and months and months. And if you think to that iconic picture of her on a C-17 flying to Libya, she has sunglasses on and she has her handheld device in her hand, we have no e-mails from that day. In fact, we have no e-mails from that trip, Gowdy said on a recent appearance on CBS’s Face the Nation. “So, it’s strange credibility to believe that if you’re on your way to Libya to discuss Libyan policy that there’s not a single document that has been turned over to Congress. So, there are huge gaps. And with respect to the president, it’s not up to Secretary Clinton to decide what is a public record and what’s not.” Gerth pointed out that “these things these usually have layers to them” and there is a lot more that needs to be unearthed. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 150. #1. To: out damned spot, TooConservative, tomder55 (#0) The stinking plot thickens. These Xlintons learned much from Nixon.
#4. To: redleghunter (#1) These Xlintons learned much from Nixon. You can't be ignorant enough to be serious! I am no fan of Richard "Wage and Price Controls,and lets open relations with China while we are at it!" Nixon,but ALL he was guilty of was participating in the coverup. He had no part in the actual crime. On the other hand,BOTH Clintons have been involved in treason since their college days. Hillary was even caught manufacturing evidence against Nixon when she worked for the Watergate committee,and hiding evidence favorable to him and was fired for it by Archibald Cox with the recommendation that "she never be hired or appointed to any position of trust with the government in the future."
#11. To: sneakypete, redleghunter (#4)
Hillary was even caught manufacturing evidence against Nixon when she worked for the Watergate committeeand hiding evidence favorable to him and was fired for it by Archibald Cox with the recommendation that "she never be hired or appointed to any position of trust with the government in the future." Urban myth. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp
FALSE
#13. To: nolu chan (#11) Snopes? Couldn't find anything from Huffpo on this?
#23. To: Dead Culture Watch (#13) Snopes? Couldn't find anything from Huffpo on this? Provide a credible source to substantiate the claim that either Zeifman, Cox, or anyone else fired Hillary, as alleged. You complain about Snopes as a source. There is not one credible source cited for this monumental event.
#24. To: nolu chan (#23) (Edited) You complain about Snopes as a source. I didn't think I was complaining at all. And Snopes is not exactly a serious source on many topics. How can it be, given the page-length they seem to impose? She was terminated in a reduction-in-force without recommendation for rehire in government work, ending her career as a congressional lawyer wannabe. It was one thing to let her go ASAP, much more serious that she didn't get a recommend for rehire. Around this time, she failed to pass the bar exam in D.C. and moved to Arkansas where she did pass the bar and ended up married to a philandering provincial governor. Hillary got shuffled out the door. How furious she must have been.
#28. To: TooConservative (#24)
She was terminated in a reduction-in-force without recommendation for rehire in government work, ending her career as a congressional lawyer wannabe. Fact check your nonsense before posting it. In January 1974, Hillary Rodham began work for John Doar, special counsel to the House Judiciary Committee. Nixon resigned in August 1974. Hillary resigned shortly after in August and went to Arkansas to be with Bill and in still in August, became an Assistant Professor of Law at the University of Arkansas School of Law. After Nixon resigned, the impeachment jobs ended. Hillary got her J.D. from Yale law in 1973. She was admitted to the Arkansas Bar on October 18, 1973. That is a year before your asinine idea that she practiced on the impeachment committee staff minus a license. Before her 1974 stint in D.C., she had lived with Bill in California and New Haven, and after D.C. she went to Arkansas to live with Bill. They got married in their home in Arkansas. Hillary joined the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock in 1976. Bill Clinton became Governor of Arkansas in 1977. Hillary became a partner at Rose Law in 1979. There is plenty of serious issues to use for criticism of Hillary. Resort to ridiculous fairy tales that have been around for nearly twenty years is counter-productive.
#31. To: nolu chan (#28) (Edited) Hillary got her J.D. from Yale law in 1973. She was admitted to the Arkansas Bar on October 18, 1973. That is a year before your asinine idea that she practiced on the impeachment committee staff minus a license. So,you are now claiming a Arkansas law license was required to work on a feral impeachment committee in DC? Gee,and here I was thinking you had to have a license to practice law wherever you were,like,practicing law. Hillary joined the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock in 1976. Bill Clinton became Governor of Arkansas in 1977. Kinda overlooking the fact that Bubba Bill was the Arkansas AG before he became the Governor,ain't ya?
#33. To: sneakypete (#31)
So, you are now claiming a Arkansas law license was required to work on a feral impeachment committee in DC? If that is what you think, you would do better not to think at all. A licensed attorney of any state bar can practice for the federal government in D.C. without taking the D.C. bar exam. Hillary never passed the D.C. bar exam. Most attorneys in D.C. do not take the D.C. bar exam. She had to be a licensed attorney to practice in D.C. starting in January 1974. She was. She was a member of the Arkansas State Bar. Attorneys for the federal government require a J.D. and membership in good standing in any state bar. They do not need to be members of the bar where they are employed. You do not have a clue what you are talking about.
Kinda overlooking the fact that Bubba Bill was the Arkansas AG before he became the Governor, ain't ya? No. Hillary became an Arkansas lawyer in 1973, worked in D.C., returned to Arkansas and was a law professor in 1974, and joined Rose Law in 1976, all before Bill was elected as State AG. Kinda desperately grasping at straws, ain’t ya?
#36. To: nolu chan (#33) No. Hillary became an Arkansas lawyer in 1973, worked in D.C., returned to Arkansas and was a law professor in 1974, and joined Rose Law in 1976, all before Bill was elected as State AG. Kinda desperately grasping at straws, ain’t ya? No,that would be you doing that. Bubba Bill had the skids greased for him from day one,thanks to the Soviet mole Senator William Fullbright and his influence. The whole "law professor" thing is a popular scam by the DNC to park future candidates until they can find a spot for them where they will have influence. Hell,Barry Obobmer was a law professor too,and he's dumber than dirt. Still smarter than Joe Biden and Goober Gore,but still dumber than dirt. Bubbette! got the law professor job PURELY because of his connection to Bubba and because she couldn't do anything else other than be the "bag lady" for Bubba. Now I guess you are going to tell us all it was her vast experience as a successful entrepreneur that got her the board seat at Wal-Mart?
#40. To: sneakypete (#36)
Bubba Bill had the skids greased for him from day one,thanks to the Soviet mole Senator William Fullbright and his influence. Damn, you've got all the intel. I'll bet this will inspire a story arc on The Americans.
Bubbette! got the law professor job PURELY because of his connection to Bubba That and a J.D. from Yale Law and being a member of the Arkansas State Bar since October 18, 1973. She got the prof job before she married Bill. Did everyone Bill bedded or astroturfed in the back of his truck get a gift of a law professorship or just the ones you found really good looking? As for the reliable source of the bullshit story, Jerry Zeifman, he also wrote in 2008 that Eleanor Roosevelt came to him in a dream and endorsed Barack Obama. http://www.aim.org/guest-column/eleanor-roosevelt-decries-congressional-black-caucus/
Eleanor Roosevelt Decries Congressional Black Caucus
#41. To: nolu chan (#40) Did everyone Bill bedded or astroturfed in the back of his truck get a gift of a law professorship or just the ones you found really good looking? You think Bubbette! is really good looking. That's proof right there that you are delusional. Or maybe a homosexual that likes ugly butch men.
#45. To: sneakypete (#41)
[sneakypete #4] Hillary was even caught manufacturing evidence against Nixon when she worked for the Watergate committee, and hiding evidence favorable to him and was fired for it by Archibald Cox with the recommendation that "she never be hired or appointed to any position of trust with the government in the future."
[sneakypete #19] The way I remember it,it was Archibald Cox that fired her, Your memory is for shit. Hillary never worked for Archibald Cox. Archibald Cox was the Special Prosecutor. All sentient beings who were alive at the time time, and have not gone senile, can recall The Saturday Night Massacre of October 20, 1973. Archibald Cox was fired by order of the President. He did not work for the Congress where Hillary Rodham later worked. Only the Legislative branch fires legislative employees. Archibald Cox was appointed by Attorney General Eliot Richardson. Cox was part of the Executive Branch. The AG and the Deputy AG refused to carry out Nixon's order and resigned. Robert Bork was sworn in as Acting AG and issued the letter to Cox effecting his firing. This is all before Hillary was ever hired. You remember that Archibald Cox, who was fired as the Special Prosecutor withn the Executive Branch in the Saturday Night Massacre of October 20, 1973, fired Hillary Rodham from the Legislative Branch in August 1974 for various undocumented misdeeds. That is quite a creative memory. You call Zeifman, the source of your allegations, disinformation and support the fantastic lunacy about Archibald Cox. It sounds as if you are still angry as a jilted lover of Hillary. Little else explains your inane rant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre
The Saturday Night Massacre was the term given by political commentators to U.S. President Richard Nixon's executive dismissal of independent special prosecutor Archibald Cox, and the resignations of Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus on October 20, 1973 during the Watergate scandal.
#46. To: nolu chan (#45) It sounds as if you are still angry as a jilted lover of Hillary. Since I am neither blind nor a woman,how would such a thing even be possible?
#48. To: sneakypete (#46) Since I am neither blind nor a woman,how would such a thing even be possible?
[sneakypete #4] Hillary was even caught manufacturing evidence against Nixon when she worked for the Watergate committee,and hiding evidence favorable to him and was fired for it by Archibald Cox with the recommendation that "she never be hired or appointed to any position of trust with the government in the future." You have obviously become confused and disoriented and your memory is not to be trusted. You recall impossible acts of Archibald Cox at a time he was not working for the government at all, and had previously served in an entirely different branch of government than where Hillary worked in 1974. In 1974, Cox was at the University of Cambridge as the Pitt Professor of American History and Institutions. Hillary was not fired from the University of Cambridge either. The tapes were sought by the Senate Watergate Committee. Hillary worked for the House Judiciary Committee under John Doar. You not only recall the negative recommendation given by Archibald Cox, you recall it in quotation marks. So, what were you quoting? Your obsession with Hillary appears to be that of a jilted lover with a confused and disoriented memory who wishes to disremember. Or perhaps you are still just crushing on her.
#53. To: nolu chan (#48) So, what were you quoting? I know this is a difficult concept for you to understand,but when someone says "the way I remember it" or anything remotely similar,they are quoting themselves. Get somebody to explain that to you. Since you are obscenely anal and will no doubt want a link,look for my original post on this thread about this. That will be your link,and since you obviously think links are gold-plated truths,there is the evidence for you.
#56. To: sneakypete (#53)
I know this is a difficult concept for you to understand,but when someone says "the way I remember it" or anything remotely similar,they are quoting themselves. Good try. Here is your actual #4.
#4. To: redleghunter (#1)These Xlintons learned much from Nixon. You were quoting yourself at #4? That’s desperate. Do you always put your memories into quotes and attribute the direct quote to Archibald Cox? Hillary was not caught manufacturing evidence, she did not hide evidence favorable to Nixon, she was not fired by anybody, Archibald Cox was never there, and Jerry Zeifman didn't have the authority had he wanted to fire Hillary. Doar was the boss lawyer, the heavy hitter brought in as Special Counsel. Zeifman was the hired help who was shunted aside when Doar and his staff showed up. The Weekly Standard is a conservative publication. John Doar was a career Republican. http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/meet-john-doar_819018.html
Meet John Doar From an official document, a list of lawyers on the Committee on the Judiciary Impeachment Inquiry Staff. Jerry Doar was the boss. Jerry Zeifman was not on that staff. Jerry Zeifman was General Counsel to the Committee. Hillary was not the Special Counsel, nor a Senior Associate, nor a Deputy Counsel. She was not Doar's "Assistant." She was a fresh out of law school lowly counsel, listed as such. Hillary had no power to do the things that were attributed to her. http://watergate.info/judiciary/BKIITOW.PDF
TESTIMONY OF WITNESSES
#58. To: nolu chan (#56) You were quoting yourself at #4? No,I was quoting myself in my later response to your demand for a link. I clearly told you that was the way I remembered it,and that seemed to confuse you because you have no memory or independent thoughts. Beyond that point it has been one brain fart and mega-copy from you after another,as you seem to try to understand the concept of people having memories and thoughts.
#59. To: sneakypete (#58)
[sneakypete #58] No,I was quoting myself in my later response to your demand for a link. That really is the evidence. Your original post with your "quote" of Archibald Cox was in your #4. Who were you quoting in your #4? Do you usually put your random thoughts into quotation marks and attribute them as a direct quote to Archibald Cox?
#4. To: redleghunter (#1)These Xlintons learned much from Nixon.
#60. To: nolu chan (#59) (Edited) Do you usually put your random thoughts into quotation marks and attribute them as a direct quote to Archibald Cox? Are you really that clueless? I thought you are a fool without an original thought in your head,but I am starting to think you might be a machine of some sort. Someone writes "A",and you automatically reply with "B",with no thought at all. And "No,I am not going to explain the quotation marks above or here to you." Get one of your semi-human programmers to reboot you with the knowledge.
#64. To: sneakypete (#60)
#4. To: redleghunter (#1)These Xlintons learned much from Nixon. As you were not quoting anyone else, and all this is of your own recollection: What do you recall Bill Clinton did in his college days that involved levying war against the United States, or, adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort? What do you recall Hillary Rodham Clinton did in her college days that involved levying war against the United States, or, adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort? When do you recall Hillary worked with the Watergate Committee which was in the Senate? Who do you recall caught Hillary Clinton manufacturing evidence against Nixon when she worked with the Special Counsel to the House Judiciary Committee? What was the evidence you recall Hillary Clinton manufactured against Nixon? Who do you recall caught Hillary Clinton hiding evidence favorable to Nixon? What do you recall was the evidence Hillary Clinton hid that was favorable to Nixon? What do you recall Nixon claimed was his legal defense?
#83. To: nolu chan (#64) What do you recall Bill Clinton did in his college days that involved levying war against the United States, or, adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort? You mean other than dodging the draft and visiting Russia,where he was wined and dined by prominent communists,including one lady in Moscow that worked for Stalin during the Revolution? Bubba Bill even slept at her apartment,and admitted this when he visited Moscow as president and invited her to a dinner party he threw and introducted her as one of his hosts during his commie tour. He also visited the North Korean embassy in Moscow. What do you recall Hillary Rodham Clinton did in her college days that involved levying war against the United States, or, adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort? You mean other than working with some of the leaders in the CPUSA,and supporting them?
#101. To: sneakypete (#83) You must be trying to get Hillary elected. This crap ranks right up there with the Barry Soetoro bullshit. All the birther insanity helped him and discredited the opposition. I note that you have provided no source by your senile vacationing memory for your assertions. It is always relevant exactly what nutjob you are cribbing from. Even if your unsupported drivel were true, it would not constitute treason.
[sneakypete #4] On the other hand,BOTH Clintons have been involved in treason since their college days. Yes, I meant what I asked. I provided the defined acts required for there to be treason from the Constitution. You have cited your usual bullshit. Do you maintain,
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[nolu chan #64] What do you recall Hillary Rodham Clinton did in her college days that involved levying war against the United States, or, adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort? Do you maintain,
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii#section3
Section 3.
[nolu chan #64] What do you recall Hillary Rodham Clinton did in her college days that involved levying war against the United States, or, adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort? So do these "leaders in the CPUSA" have names? What did she allegedly do? Do you refer to working as a summer intern with the law firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein? Did everyone who worked at the law firm commit treason? Do you have some special insight about your definition of treason? Are you always so pathetic? Or do you really want to discredit Hillary's opposition by painting them all as nut jobs?
#102. To: nolu chan (#101) You must be trying to get Hillary elected. No,that would be you.
#103. To: sneakypete (#102) Absurd claims that Barack Obama was really Barry Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen, worked so well that you want to emulate it and drag out all the ridiculous claims about Hillary. It must be time to water my pet geranium and see if it sprouts brains. In review, your nonsense,
BOTH Clintons have been involved in treason since their college days. Of course, everybody who goes to Russia commits treason and every day any employee went to work at the law firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein, they committed treason.
Hillary was even caught manufacturing evidence against Nixon when she worked for the Watergate committee, Except she wasn’t and you have yet to recall who you recollected caught her or what evidence she was caught manufacturing.
and hiding evidence favorable to him Except you have yet to recall what evidence you recollected she hid or how it was favorable to the very guilty Richard Nixon.
and was fired for it by Archibald Cox Except she was never fired by anyone, and never worked for Archibald Cox.
with the recommendation that "she never be hired or appointed to any position of trust with the government in the future." She was never fired and she received no such recommendation. 24 years after Watergate, Jerry Zeifman said, “If I had the power to fire her, I would have fired her.” Jerry Zeifman wrote in 1995, “Rodham performed her job admirably.”
#105. To: nolu chan (#103) Absurd claims that Barack Obama was really Barry Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen, worked so well that you want to emulate it and drag out all the ridiculous claims about Hillary. I love the way you state they are "absurd claims" yet never come right out and say they are not true. It must be time to water my pet geranium and see if it sprouts brains. Maybe it's time for the geranium to water you? You are nothing but a Dim shill and wannabe lawyer so out of touch with reality that you think ONE claim that was only a mistake on the surrounding details negates the truth in the core of the message. This ain't court,bucko,and you can't get evidence thrown out because of a misplaced comma.
#141. To: sneakypete (#105)
[nc #103] Absurd claims that Barack Obama was really Barry Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen, worked so well that you want to emulate it and drag out all the ridiculous claims about Hillary. I have stated many times previously that the absurd claims you puked up, as posted by others over the past years, are not only absurd, but absurdly untrue. If they were true, they would not be absurd. If they were possibly true, they would not be absurd. They are not possibly true, have been proven utterly untrue for ten years, and are utter garbage. They are completely indefensible, therefore you cannot make any real effort to defend the claims you made by your supposed recall of the news.
#150. To: nolu chan (#141) I have stated many times previously that the absurd claims you puked up, as posted by others over the past years, are not only absurd, but absurdly untrue. If they were true, they would not be absurd. If they were possibly true, they would not be absurd. They are not possibly true, have been proven utterly untrue for ten years, and are utter garbage. You write this stuff out with crayons,and someone else later posts it on the web,right? I've never seen a dog chase their tail so much. FACT,he was adopted by his ho mothers Indonesian father,and had his name legally changed to Barry Soetoro. FACT,his mother,as his legal guardian,and his father had his citizenship changed to Indonesian. FACT,there is no record of him ever legally changing his name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Oboma. FACT,he traveled to Pakistan using an Indonesian passport issued to Barry Soetoro,Indonesian citizen when he was 18 and Pakistan wasn't allowing US citizens to visit. FACT,there is no legal record every having denounced his Indonesian citizenship OR applying to have his US citizenship re-instated. FACT,he and his handlers,because he really is a dummy and has to speak from a script,refuses to even talk about any of this.
Replies to Comment # 150. Not only are your statements of "FACT" incorrect, they are impossible according to U.S. and Indonesian law.
FACT,he was adopted by his ho mothers Indonesian father,and had his name legally changed to Barry Soetoro. This one is just bullshit. It did not happen.
FACT,his mother,as his legal guardian,and his father had his citizenship changed to Indonesian. This is contrary to Indonesian law as well as impossible under U.S. law. United States Supreme Court, unanimous, Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325, 329-30 (1939)
Second. It has long been a recognized principle in this country that, if a child born here is taken during minority to the country of his parents' origin, where his parents resume their former allegiance, he does not thereby lose his citizenship in the United States provided that, on attaining majority he elects to retain that citizenship and to return to the United States to assume its duties. - - -
THE NATIONALITY ACT OF 1952
FACT,there is no record of him ever legally changing his name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Oboma. In a manner of speaking, correct. As he never changed his name from Barack Obama, he never changed it back to Barack Obama.
FACT,he traveled to Pakistan using an Indonesian passport issued to Barry Soetoro,Indonesian citizen when he was 18 and Pakistan wasn't allowing US citizens to visit. Another shithead urban legend. Update your urban legend list. This one was destroyed in 2009. Damn, you are pathetic. Archived State Department travel advisories for Pakistan http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/travel/cis/southasia/TA_Pakistan1981.pdf From U.S. State Department Travel Advisory No. 81-33A of August 17, 1981:
"Before traveling to Pakistan, American Citizens should be aware of the following updated visa requirements: 30 day visas are available at Pakistani airports for tourists only. As these visas are rarely extended beyond the 30 day time per visa, tourists planning to stay longer should secure visas before coming to Pakistan. Any traveler coming into Pakistan overland from India must repeat must have a valid visa, as 30 day visas are not repeat not issued at the overland border crossing point at Wagha." The Travel Advisory provides advice about travelling to Pakistan. There is no indication of a ban. A Travel Warning would tell of serious short term dangers and caution people to avoid unnecessary travel. Of course, in the case of a travel ban, there would not be a travel advisory. The New York Times ran a story about an assistant news editor's travel around Pakistan in 1981. It seems she was not aware of any alleged ban at that time. Nobody has yet produced a shred of evidence of a U.S. ban on travel to Pakistan in 1981.
New York Times link http://www.factcheck.org/2009/06/more-birther-nonsense-obamas-1981-pakistan-trip/ http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Obama_citizenship_denial#1981_Pakistan_trip http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp
Passport of Call
FACT,there is no legal record every having denounced his Indonesian citizenship OR applying to have his US citizenship re-instated. As he was not eligible to obtain Indonesian citizenship under Indonesian law, and he could not have had his U.S. citizenship under U.S. law, your alleged fact is complete bullshit. As he never lost U.S. citizenship, he could not re-instate that which was never lost.
FACT,he and his handlers,because he really is a dummy and has to speak from a script,refuses to even talk about any of this. FACT. You have proven yet one more time that you are a shithead.
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