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Title: Miricle reports wanted
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Published: Mar 26, 2015
Author: Pastor Bob Celeste for ACP
Post Date: 2015-03-26 17:21:09 by BobCeleste
Keywords: ACP
Views: 16338
Comments: 68

Some time in the very near future, God willing, I am going to do a thought on the miracles Christ is doing in the lives of Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christians.

If you are a true Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christians and if you have first hand knowledge of a miracle, I would love the details. Please either post here of email, using the LibertysFlame email service, to me with "Miracle" in the subject line. Please try to keep it to 200 words or under.

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#3. To: BobCeleste (#0)

If you are a true Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christians and if you have first hand knowledge of a miracle

I have three of the latter: firsthand knowledge (indeed, direct participation in), but I doubt that I would satisfy your definition to be "a true Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christian", being that I am a Roman Catholic.

It doesn't seem you want to hear about miracles that happen to my kind, so I won't spam your thread, but I'll read with interest.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-26   18:17:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13, BobCeleste, fred mertz (#3)

I have three of the latter: firsthand knowledge (indeed, direct participation in), but I doubt that I would satisfy your definition to be "a true Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christian", being that I am a Roman Catholic.

It doesn't seem you want to hear about miracles that happen to my kind, so I won't spam your thread, but I'll read with interest.

Fred asked " why haven't we seen or heard of miracles like those in the biblical times."

Bob seems to forget that the orignial miracles performed by Christ were all to those that were not "Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christians" - they were anything but. Bob's belief that miracles only happen to "Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christians" reveals a very ugly side of him that is anything but Christ like.

SOSO  posted on  2015-03-26   18:24:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: SOSO (#4)

Bob seems to forget that the orignial miracles performed by Christ were all to those that were not "Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christians" - they were anything but.

If you are saying miracles aren't for christians. Then I think you are wrong. Lazarus.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-26   20:51:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#12)

Lazarus

Why do "Christians" require "miracles" to support their faith as evidence of their God?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-26   21:11:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: buckeroo, SOSO, Vicomte13, GarySpFc, liberator, BobCeleste, Don (#13)

Why do "Christians" require "miracles" to support their faith as evidence of their God?

Some do, some don't. The apostles all saw Jesus do hundreds of miracles. Yet even after the greatest miracle of all, the resurrection of Jesus Christ, Thomas still required touching Christ's wounds to believe.

That's where Christ said that those who believed and did not see would be blessed.

In that one passage in John 20 Jesus pointed out He would have followers who would seek subjective proof of Him and those who would be blessed to have faith in the objective evidence of His testimony.

Now why did Bob specifically point to "born again or born from above" for his miracle subject?

I think (he will tell me if I am wrong) it is because by God's Grace, regeneration of mind, heart and soul leading to repentance and salvation through Christ is a miracle in itself. It stands alone. It's personal as Vic alluded to.

I think the miracles of healing, reviving a dead child, multiplying fish and bread, walking on water, parting the Red Sea many more, has a different purpose IMO.

Those are to prove what God says, promises and commands. Where God makes a claim His Power is manifest. If Jesus just came preaching a Law the Jews already knew and claimed to be the Messiah, we would never have heard of him. There were many before Him who did just that. They came in their own word and witness. So what? I agree. What makes it different is Christ came doing miracles which confirmed the words He spoke. He did so in front of hundreds and sometimes thousands of witnesses. This was topped off with His resurrection from the dead. He was in the grave 3 days and came back with a glorified Body.

Now we also see in the gospels there were people who saw these miracles...They witnessed them and still denied Him.

So I don't think Bob is talking about those miracles.

I think the miracle in question is what we see in John 3. How God by His Grace could take a damned destitute sinner as me, lead me to sorrowful repentance and show me the Grace of His salvation through Jesus Christ. Then change my life such that I could not fathom how it happened.

There are miracles in my life and answered prayer in which strengthened my faith...built faith, which were also His Grace. Some of them happening without me even asking.

I hope this helps address the various questions posted, not just my buddy bukaroo.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-26   22:22:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: redleghunter (#22) (Edited)

Your rant spun off into LALA Land. You are not straight forward with a response to my earlier post.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-26   22:32:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeroo (#23)

I addressed your question and others.

You asked why Christians "require" miracles. I stated some do and some don't. And then told you why.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-26   22:43:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: redleghunter (#24)

You asked why Christians "require" miracles. I stated some do and some don't. And then told you why.

If you believe there is a GOD, there is no reason for to require "miracles or otherwise.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-26   22:58:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeroo, redleghunter, All (#25)

You asked why Christians "require" miracles. I stated some do and some don't. And then told you why.

If you believe there is a GOD, there is no reason for to require "miracles or otherwise.

If you believe in Christ what would you call His resurrection if not a miracle?

SOSO  posted on  2015-03-28   13:36:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: SOSO (#39)

It is a myth.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-28   13:38:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: buckeroo, redleghunter, All (#40)

It is a myth.

Either you are totally disingenuous or intellectually bankrupt. My question was IF you believd in Christ what would you call His resurrection if not a miracle? For believers His the miracle of His resurrection is quite enough. None other are required.

You obviously do not believe in Christ and probably not in a God either. You probably believe in nothing. That's you choice. But I can respond to your question of "what if you didn't believe in Christ......." with thoughtfulness and intellectual integrity and certainly without telling you that you live if a fairy land. So how about showing some character by engaging in a sincere dialogue? If you can't then please STFU because you bring nothing to this thread.

SOSO  posted on  2015-03-28   13:48:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: SOSO (#43)

Either you are totally disingenuous or intellectually bankrupt.

That is a false claim based on your own bias. Your own claim proves a categorical issue in communication skills.

My question was IF you believd [believed] in Christ what would you call His resurrection if not a miracle? For believers His the miracle of His resurrection is quite enough. None other are required.

At the time of Christ, there were no less than 100 Jews traveling throughout the "Holy Land" marking a predication concerning the "end of the world." They were all known as "Christ." Some were marauders, some were honest people, some were warriors and sedition followers against both Rome and the Jewish establishment.

Jesus was a zealot; one of the worst of all "Christs" at the time. The myth about his simple message was magnified into silly "miracles" to establish his eminence which has never been supported other than through gossip, rumour or innuendo.

You obviously do not believe in Christ and probably not in a God either. You probably believe in nothing. That's you choice. But I can respond to your question of "what if you didn't believe in Christ......." with thoughtfulness and intellectual integrity and certainly without telling you that you live if a fairy land. So how about showing some character by engaging in a sincere dialogue? If you can't then please STFU because you bring nothing to this thread.

I have not demonstrated any issue other than maintaining a consistent opinion. It is you and your ilk demonstrating unsavory reactions to an otherwise rational discussion.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-28   14:01:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: buckeroo (#45)

I have not demonstrated any issue other than maintaining a consistent opinion. It is you and your ilk demonstrating unsavory reactions to an otherwise rational discussion

Nice weasel, one of the better ones of late. You still haven't answered my very straight forward question. Guess what, you now have lost all your credibility. You may have the last word, I am done with you and your dishonesty on this issue.

SOSO  posted on  2015-03-28   14:06:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#48. To: SOSO (#47)

Such a fine Christian that you exemplify on a publick forum. Now, I am a "weasel."

You still haven't answered my very straight forward question.

I haven't identified that question. Where is it?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-28 14:14:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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