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Obama Wars Title: How Thomas Jefferson would have handled ISIS The plot sounds like something plucked from today's headlines: foreign hostages, terrorism, presidential power and American diplomatic relations with the Middle East. But the nation's first war on terror was waged by Thomas Jefferson, not George W. Bush or Barack Obama. In place of al Qaeda or ISIS, Jefferson was fighting the Barbary pirates. In Jefferson's time, European powers conceded to terrorism by paying annual tribute and ransom to groups like the Barbary pirates, according to Robert F. Turner, co-founder of the Center for National Security Law and professor of American Foreign Policy. Once the American colonies gained independence from Britain, their ships were left without protection from piracy at sea. As American commerce began to increase, the Barbary states targeted American merchant vessels that traveled the seas without a strong naval defense. Ransom payments Jefferson believed paying ransom to terrorist organizations was a sign of weakness as a nation.... Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 12. Jefferson is long dead, I am alive, what I would do is use tactical nukes.
#3. To: BobCeleste (#2) what I would do is use tactical nukes.
I don't see where that would be inconsistent with Jefferson's "eternal hostility": "I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN" --Thomas Jefferson ISIS and Islam are certainly a "tyranny over the mind of man".
#4. To: VxH (#3) ISIS and Islam are certainly a "tyranny over the mind of man". That perspective is limited in scope. It depends on your interpretation of the Qur'an.
#7. To: buckeroo (#4) It depends on your interpretation of the Qur'an. When is the objective of Islam not Sharia rule? NO SALE.
#8. To: VxH (#7) When is the objective of Islam not Sharia rule? When is the objective of some pentecostal luthern church from the Kentucky backwoods not some snake worshipper's self rule? You can't answer the same or similar questions because it is all madeup by charlatans, liars, thieves and cheats.
#9. To: buckeroo (#8) (Edited) You can't answer the same or similar questions because it is all madeup by charlatans, liars, thieves and cheats. But the difference between the Kentucky backwoods preacher and ISIS is that the Muslim Brotherhood would establish itself atop state-established coercive powers. Americans have a choice not to buy what the Kentucky backwoods sheeple fleecer is selling - folks within the purview of ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, not so much.
#10. To: VxH (#9) But the difference between the Kentucky backwoods and ISIS is that the Muslim Brotherhood would perch itself atop state-established coercive powers. Not at all. The Kentucky backwood's hicks would have their [sisters] wives bare-footed, pregnant and skinning possum all day in the kitchen listening to some 1950's olde on a 14 transistor radio imported from China.
#11. To: buckeroo (#10) (Edited) The Kentucky backwood's hicks would have their [sisters] wives bare-footed, pregnant and skinning possum all day But unlike the ISIS miscreants enslaving and prostituting Yezidi women in Northern Iraq, Kentucky backwoods hicks wouldn't be empowered to impose their desires using coercive government powers under the dictate of a religious state-establishment. In America, the government's specified purpose is to "SECURE THESE RIGHTS". So if a woman wants to walk out of the cultural Kentucky backwoods she is free to do so - even if she's wearing SQUEAKY SHOES!
#12. To: VxH (#11) Sure they would. They would use their "brother Jethro" and related kindred from the local KKK pep squad to subdue the masses.
Replies to Comment # 12. #13. To: buckeroo (#12) (Edited) Not using the legal authority of the state they wouldn't.
#27. To: buckeroo (#12) Actually it's the Greeks you have to worry about. All of the ills of the Western world happened because the Greeks lost to the Moslems and had to ring up the Pope to bail them out.
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