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Title: Roving Bands of Official Highwaymen (If They Want Your Money . . . )
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Eric Peters Autos
URL Source: http://ericpetersautos.com/2015/03/16/if-they-want-your-money/
Published: Mar 16, 2015
Author: Eric
Post Date: 2015-03-17 07:33:42 by Deckard
Keywords: Sanctioned Highway Robbery
Views: 1152
Comments: 10
There is always a catch. You may have heard about Attorney General Eric Holder’s recent announcement that states would no longer be able to cite federal asset forfeiture laws to snatch people’s cash and property without so much as charging them with a crime - let alone actually going to the trouble of convicting them of having committed a crime. Most people are unaware such brazen gangster tactics have been in use for years – and could be used against them. And when they are used, you’ll have little recourse. It is literally up to you to prove you did not commit a crime – at your expense and on your nickel. Example: You have found a used car online that you are interested in buying. You make arrangements to go see the car, which is a couple hours’ drive away. Since you are pretty serious about wanting to buy the car if it checks out, you first go to the bank and withdraw $15,000 with which to purchase the car. You do so because you know that cash is a strong persuader and because the seller will not hand over the keys – or the title – unless he has cash in hand first. This is common practice – and perfectly reasonable (as well as perfectly lawful, for the moment). Well, along the way you get pulled over for some minor traffic offense. The cop notices you have a large envelope, demands to inspect its contents and you (foolishly) give him permission to do so. The cop can then simply take – and keep your money. Because merely having a “large amount” of cash – that is the term used – is considered “suspicious.” It is sufficient in and of itself to characterize you as a “drug dealer” or other such outlaw and for the cop (and county/state he’s acting as muscle for) to simply seize the cash. And not temporarily, either. It is now your obligation to prove the money is (well, was) rightfully – that is, lawfully – yours. This can be very expensive and very time consuming and many people – under extreme duress – actually sign off on the seizure in return for the cop/local prosecutor “letting them go.” With empty pockets. Example two: You are forced to stop at one of those vile (and probable cause-free) “sobriety” or “safety” checkpoints now routinized in the land of the formerly free. The cop claims he “smelled marijuana.” It is enough – all by itself – for him to simply take your vehicle, auction it off and put the proceeds toward more equipment (and more cops) to fight the “war” on some drugs (alcohol being a socially accepted – and thus, legal – drug). You are shaken down for $30,000 (the value of your car) over a $300 bag of pot – actual or imagined (or just planted). It happens – and it’s entirely “lawful.” Just as it is “lawful” to stop/search people without probable cause – and to cavity search them once the pretext of an arrest for any offense (including infractions such as jaywalking or littering) is satisfied. It sounds crazy, I know. And is. But it’s absolutely for real. A form of rendition – such a lovely term – only applied to property rather than persons. Both have become accepted routine in a country where it has become acceptable to do such things to various categories of pariah persons on mere suspicion that they might be such pariah persons and thus, beyond the protection of the law. Like the physical rendition of “terrorists” (who can be anyone the state says, merely having claimed that they are) to places such as Gitmo and other pleasure palaces of the state, the victims of these outrages are relatively few in number, easily marginalized and their cases usually do not get much coverage. But the skeevy point lost on the lowing masses – who mostly turn away from such unpleasantness – is that the same could be visited upon them at any moment. Principles matter. Well, they used to. As did the rules of law, such as having to have evidence of a crime before subjecting people to searches and seizures – and needing to actually convict them of a crime in front of a jury and a judge before imposing sentence. Thanks to the “wars” on (some) drugs and “terrorism” (tomorrow that could mean you) those ancient niceties have been dispensed with – mostly to the accompaniment of clapping (the democratic form of seig heiling). Well, the good news is your stuff (and cash) are no longer subject to being seized under federal asset forfeiture laws. The bad news is that states and counties are not going to stop doing it just because the feds have said they’re out of the racket. (And the feds are still going to do it, too. Unless the IRS is included in Eric Holder’s proclamation. It routinely just takes people’s stuff before anything’s been proven or in some cases even formally charged. Look into, for instance, something the IRS calls “structuring.”) How goes the saying? New boss… same as the old boss? The feds have ruled it’s lawful for us peons to record cops serving and protecting; it does not prevent them from arresting/caging people for so doing. My home state continues to enforce the ban on radar detectors – despite the federal courts (the “supreme” federal court) having ruled such bans unconstitutional. Power, ultimately, does indeed flow from the barrel of a gun. And whether that gun is held by a federal thug or a local yokel one hardly matters to the victim on the other end of that gun. So, herewith some practical advice: Do not carry “large sums” of cash on your person. Anything more than $100, basically – or whatever sum you’re comfortable with losing, in the event you get shaken down by Officer Less Than Friendly. Never consent to any search if your person, property or vehicle. No matter how innocent you know yourself to be; no matter how apparently friendly and reasonable the cop seems to be. His job is to wheedle you into giving him pretext – legal standing – to do his thing, which is to convict you of something and relieve you of your liberty and your money. Do not consent. It may be the only way you’ll ever get your stuff – and your liberty – back. Technicalities weigh heavier on the scales of injustice than justice.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
But if you are going to carry more cash do not mention it on phone or in email. When you withdraw more money ask bank to seal it in a stamped envelope and get a copy/photo and receipt to be stored in other place.
Holder only finally noticed this was a problem and that it hits lower-income people harder than others? How about addressing the fact that Ferguson operates as a predator against its own citizens, in effect a bandit town that preys on its own. And there are a lot of bandit towns in America, scattered all over. If Holder was serious, he should have done this in 2009. Better late than never but you have to wonder if the new A.G. will follow up. Holder had a chance to do this and make it stick but chose to make a grand gesture as he cleans out his office.
So you have a receipt from the bank and a copy of the ad. You're on your way from your residence to the seller's. You obviously made an appointment, and the seller can confirm this. No, your money's not going to be seized. Oh, next time don't carry $15,000 cash on the front seat. Idiot.
That would be federal civil asset forfeiture laws that apply to joint seizures with a state. But only 3% of seizures under state laws are shared with the feds. States have always had their own forfeiture laws, and most state laws are far worse than the feds.
Very rarely does a state make a civil asset forfeiture that involves the federal government. Like 3%. When they do, they gotta bump 20% of the take to the feds. Holder put an end to that. The vast majority of civil asset forfeiture is done by local police under state laws -- laws which are far worse than federal asset forfeiture laws.
You seem to be in the know. Did you benefit from those seizures?
If Holder was serious, he should have done this in 2009. This has been going on for far too long - I remember tons of TV shows and movies from the 70s about towns that were little more than speed traps. It is one of these injustices Americans seem to have accepted and resigned themselves to. I think the militirization of the police and the fact cops just taser or worse shoot people dead now rather than break a sweat and cuff you by force has made many people fed up about it. If cops stop losing conservative support then you know they are doing something wrong to lose them.
From the Nixon administration => The Bank Secrecy Act of 1970 (or BSA, or otherwise known as the Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act) requires financial institutions in the United States to assist U.S. government agencies to detect and prevent money laundering. Specifically, the act requires financial institutions to keep records of cash purchases of negotiable instruments, and file reports of cash purchases of these negotiable instruments of more than $10,000 (daily aggregate amount), and to report suspicious activity that might signify money laundering, tax evasion, or other criminal activities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Secrecy_Act _____________________________________________________________________________ Bush I, March 05, 1991 => Asset forfeiture laws allow us to take the ill-gotten gains of drug kingpins and use them to put more cops on the streets and more prosecutors in court. In the last 5 years alone, the Justice Department shared over half a billion dollars in forfeited assets with State and local law enforcement. http://bush41library.tamu.edu/archives/public-papers/2764
You may have heard about Attorney General Eric Holder’s recent announcement that states would no longer be able to cite federal asset forfeiture laws to snatch "BLACK" people’s cash and property without so much as charging them with a crime - let alone actually going to the trouble of convicting them of having committed a crime. There fixed it for you.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
So, herewith some practical advice: Do not carry “large sums” of cash on your person. Anything more than $100, basically – or whatever sum you’re comfortable with losing, in the event you get shaken down by Officer Less Than Friendly.
#3. To: Deckard (#0)
You may have heard about Attorney General Eric Holder’s recent announcement that states would no longer be able to cite federal asset forfeiture laws to snatch people’s cash and property without so much as charging them with a crime - let alone actually going to the trouble of convicting them of having committed a crime.
#4. To: Deckard (#0)
"Example: You have found a used car online that you are interested in buying. You make arrangements to go see the car, which is a couple hours’ drive away. Since you are pretty serious about wanting to buy the car if it checks out, you first go to the bank and withdraw $15,000 with which to purchase the car"
#5. To: Deckard (#0)
"You may have heard about Attorney General Eric Holder’s recent announcement that states would no longer be able to cite federal asset forfeiture laws to snatch people’s cash and property without so much as charging them with a crime"
#6. To: TooConservative (#3)
"How about addressing the fact that Ferguson operates as a predator against its own citizens, in effect a bandit town that preys on its own. And there are a lot of bandit towns in America, scattered all over."
#7. To: misterwhite (#6)
Very rarely does a state make a civil asset forfeiture that involves the federal government. Like 3%. When they do, they gotta bump 20% of the take to the feds
#8. To: TooConservative (#3)
How about addressing the fact that Ferguson operates as a predator against its own citizens, in effect a bandit town that preys on its own. And there are a lot of bandit towns in America, scattered all over.
#9. To: Deckard (#0)
#10. To: Deckard (#0)
You may have heard about Attorney General Eric Holder’s recent announcement that states would no longer be able to cite federal asset forfeiture laws to snatch people’s cash and property without so much as charging them with a crime - let alone actually going to the trouble of convicting them of having committed a crime.
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