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Title: Netanyahu Declares No Palestinian State if He’s Re-elected
Source: NYT
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/w ... -campaign-settlement.html?_r=0
Published: Mar 16, 2015
Author: staff
Post Date: 2015-03-16 20:15:13 by cranko
Keywords: None
Views: 9302
Comments: 52

Under pressure on the eve of a surprisingly close election, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel on Monday doubled down on his appeal to right-wing voters, declaring definitively that if he was returned to office he would never establish a Palestinian state

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#3. To: cranko (#0)

"if he was returned to office he would never establish a Palestinian state"

That's not his call.

UN181 set aside land for a Palestinian state, and UN 242 and UN338 called for Israel to get out of that Palestinian land. All of those resolutions were unanimous, meaning the U.S. approved them.

Yet, Israel continues to spit in our face while accepting billions in aid.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-03-17   11:37:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#3)

That's not his call.

UN181 set aside land for a Palestinian state, and UN 242 and UN338 called for Israel to get out of that Palestinian land. All of those resolutions were unanimous, meaning the U.S. approved them.

It most certainly is his call. His country.

Take your UN and shove it up your ass. The UN isn't the worlds leader. Maybe in your leftist delusion. Yes you're a leftist.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-17   11:47:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#4)

"It most certainly is his call. His country."

His country? Sure. Part of it is. But we're talking about the Palestinian part. That's not his.

"The UN isn't the worlds leader."

Israel also signed the 4th Geneva Convention. Article 49, sixth paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provides: “The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies"

That means, "Get the f**k out of Palestinian land".

misterwhite  posted on  2015-03-17   12:07:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#7)

Israel also signed the 4th Geneva Convention. Article 49, sixth paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provides: “The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies"

There is no occupied land. Not in the context you say.

You can mouth off about a pali state all you want. But where is it? It isn't there. It will never exist.

If you want it to exist you should go back to your people the Palestinians and help them fight. That is the only way your people will have a land. That is if you defeat the legitimate owners and steal it. But that isn't going to happen. You know it. That is why you sit on the sidelines instead of going to fight for your blood kindred.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-17   12:12:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone, misterwhite (#9)

The following started in the Security Council and passed there unanimously but for the United States veto. The General Assembly took it up and passed what had been previously vetoed in the Security Council.

http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/51/ares51-223.htm

United Nations
General Assembly

A/RES/51/223 

Distr. GENERAL  

14 March 1997

ORIGINAL:
ENGLISH

Fifty-first session
Agenda items 33 and 35


                  RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY

         [without reference to a Main Committee (A/51/L.68 and Add.1)]


            51/223.     Israeli settlement activities in the
                        occupied Palestinian territory, in
                        particular in occupied East Jerusalem


      The General Assembly,

      Having considered the letters dated 21, 1/ 25 2/ and 27
3/ February 1997 from the Permanent Observer of Palestine on behalf of
the States members of the League of Arab States,

      Expressing deep concern at the decision of the Government of
Israel to initiate new settlement activities in the Jebel Abu Ghneim
area in East Jerusalem,

      Expressing concern about other recent measures that encourage or
facilitate new settlement activities,

      Stressing that such settlements are illegal and a major obstacle
to peace,


      Recalling its resolutions on Jerusalem and other relevant General
Assembly and Security Council resolutions,

      Confirming that all legislative and administrative measures and
actions taken by Israel which purport to alter the status of
Jerusalem, including expropriation of land and properties thereon, are
invalid and cannot change that status,

      Reaffirming its support for the Middle East peace process and all
its achievements, including the recent agreement on Hebron,

      Concerned about the difficulties facing the Middle East peace
process, including the impact these have on the living conditions of
the Palestinian people, and urging the parties to fulfil their
obligations, including under the agreements already reached,

      Having discussed the situation at its 91st, 92nd and 93rd plenary
meetings on 12 and 13 March 1997,

      1.    Calls upon the Israeli authorities to refrain from all
actions or measures, including settlement activities, which alter the
facts on the ground, pre-empting the final status negotiations, and
have negative implications for the Middle East peace process;

      2.    Calls upon Israel, the occupying Power, to abide
scrupulously by its legal obligations and responsibilities under the
Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in
Time of War of 12 August 1949, 4/ which is applicable to all the
territories occupied by Israel since 1967;

      3.    Calls upon all parties to continue, in the interests of
peace and security, their negotiations within the Middle East peace
process on its agreed basis and the timely implementation of the
agreements reached;

      4.    Requests the Secretary-General to bring to the attention of
the Government of Israel the provisions of the present resolution.


                                                          93rd plenary meeting
                                                                 13 March 1997


                                     Notes

1/    A/51/805-S/1997/149; see Official Records of the Security
Council, Fifty-second Year, Supplement for January, February and March
1997, document S/1997/149.

2/    A/51/808-S/1997/157; see Official Records of the Security
Council, Fifty-second Year, Supplement for January, February and March
1997, document S/1997/157.

3/    Official Records of the Security Council, Fifty-second Year,
Supplement for January, February and March 1997, document S/1997/165.

4/    United Nations, Treaty Series, vol. 75, Nos. 970 to 973.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-03-17   17:32:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: nolu chan (#14)

Don't they pass one of those every year? To no avail, obviously.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-03-17   18:23:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#17. To: misterwhite (#15)

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-17 18:35:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: misterwhite (#15)

Looks like your side lost the election.

There is still not Pali state.

Are you going to cry?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-17 18:37:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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