Senator Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) received a standing ovation from a full, if also initially drowsy CPAC crowd after an engaging speech and Q&A in which he attacked President Obama’s executive orders on immigration and said that he knew “the strongest argument” against the immigration bill that he helped draft was proven true. “What I’ve learned is you can’t even have a conversation about [illegal immigrants already in the country] until people believe and know, not just believe, but it’s proven to them, that future illegal immigration is brought under control,” he told Sean Hannity during the Q-and-A. “That is the single biggest lesson I’ve learned.” Rubio’s courting of the CPAC crowd contrasts markedly with Jeb Bush’s posture on immigration at the Club for Growth conference in Palm Beach, Fla., despite the similarities between their diagnoses of the immigration problem. “If I go beyond the consideration of running, I’m not backing down from something that is a core belief,” Bush told the Club for Growth crowd Thursday after insisting on addressing the issue. “Are we supposed to just cower because at the moment people are all upset about something? No way, no how.” Rubio, by contrast, said that “the strongest argument” against the Gang of Eight amnesty bill he once co-sponsored — the complaint that the legal status was provided before the border was secured — was “proven to be true” by President Obama’s executive actions on immigration. “The president not once but now twice has basically said by executive order, ‘I won’t enforce the law,’” he said. Rubio also protested media coverage of the fight to use the Department of Homeland Security funding bill to block implementation of Obama’s executive orders on immigration. “That’s the hypocrisy of this, right?” he said. “So, when we’re in the minority and we filibuster Obamacare and we want to repeal it or at least get a vote on it, we’re shutting down a government. When they’re in the minority and they’re filibustering getting rid of this executive order, we’re shutting down the government, too.” Rubio suggested that Republicans need to continue trying to block the orders, despite the risk of political damage due to that coverage. “If you lose that constitutional check and balance on power, you lose the essence of what makes our nation different from others,” he said. “It’s not a policy debate, this is a constitutional debate.”
Poster Comment:
I like how he has experienced an epiphany on the subject, now that he's running for office, just like the epiphany he experienced once he got to Washington DC and Trent Lott's crowd of well funded co-opting.
Title: Rubio Assures CPAC: ‘I’ve Learned’ Since Immigration Debate
Actually, he's just learned to lie a little better.
Other recent speeches he's given are all on the pro-amnesty side. So he is actually just as much in favor of a big amnesty but thinks he can get away with lying to CPAC about it.
I like how he has experienced an epiphany on the subject, now that he's running for office, just like the epiphany he experienced once he got to Washington DC and Trent Lott's crowd of well funded co-opting.
Amazingly sudden epiphany, ain't it?
Rubio is a very good and confident liar. He's as much pro-illegal invasion and Amnesty as 0buma. I hope Pubbie voters don't come down with their usual case of amnesia.
Other recent speeches he's given are all on the pro-amnesty side. So he is actually just as much in favor of a big amnesty but thinks he can get away with lying to CPAC about it.
Have you noticed just how comfortable he is at lying? And avoiding his blatant lying and two-facedness on the subject?
I was disappointed in the lack of robust booing when both he and Jeb walked out in front of CPAC. Jeb looked like a nervous Nellie when face to face with Hannity.
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Title: Rubio Assures CPAC: ‘I’ve Learned’ Since Immigration Debate Source: National Review URL Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/corne ... immigration-debate-joel-gehrke Published: Feb 27, 2015 Author: Joel Gehrke Post Date: 2015-02-27 14:44:20 by nativist nationalist Keywords: None Views: 29 Comments: 6
Senator Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) received a standing ovation from a full, if also initially drowsy CPAC crowd after an engaging speech and Q&A in which he attacked President Obama’s executive orders on immigration and said that he knew “the strongest argument” against the immigration bill that he helped draft was proven true. “What I’ve learned is you can’t even have a conversation about [illegal immigrants already in the country] until people believe and know, not just believe, but it’s proven to them, that future illegal immigration is brought under control,” he told Sean Hannity during the Q-and-A. “That is the single biggest lesson I’ve learned.” Rubio’s courting of the CPAC crowd contrasts markedly with Jeb Bush’s posture on immigration at the Club for Growth conference in Palm Beach, Fla., despite the similarities between their diagnoses of the immigration problem. “If I go beyond the consideration of running, I’m not backing down from something that is a core belief,” Bush told the Club for Growth crowd Thursday after insisting on addressing the issue. “Are we supposed to just cower because at the moment people are all upset about something? No way, no how.” Rubio, by contrast, said that “the strongest argument” against the Gang of Eight amnesty bill he once co-sponsored — the complaint that the legal status was provided before the border was secured — was “proven to be true” by President Obama’s executive actions on immigration. “The president not once but now twice has basically said by executive order, ‘I won’t enforce the law,’” he said. Rubio also protested media coverage of the fight to use the Department of Homeland Security funding bill to block implementation of Obama’s executive orders on immigration. “That’s the hypocrisy of this, right?” he said. “So, when we’re in the minority and we filibuster Obamacare and we want to repeal it or at least get a vote on it, we’re shutting down a government. When they’re in the minority and they’re filibustering getting rid of this executive order, we’re shutting down the government, too.” Rubio suggested that Republicans need to continue trying to block the orders, despite the risk of political damage due to that coverage. “If you lose that constitutional check and balance on power, you lose the essence of what makes our nation different from others,” he said. “It’s not a policy debate, this is a constitutional debate.”
Poster Comment:
I like how he has experienced an epiphany on the subject, now that he's running for office, just like the epiphany he experienced once he got to Washington DC and Trent Lott's crowd of well funded co-opting.
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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0) (Edited)
Ignore whatever "conservatives" say about illegal immigration while they are running for national office.
If they want to be successful, they know two things:
1. It is okay to say whatever is necessary (i.e. lie) to the rubes to win elections, as long as they remember:
2. Once elected, they MUST dance to the tune of the RULING CLASS (and make it as easy as possible to increase the voting rolls of the democrap party)
Forgetting rule two is NOT an option. It could be hazardous to their (or their family's) health.
Rufus T Firefly posted on 2015-02-27 15:07:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #2. To: nativist nationalist (#0)
Title: Rubio Assures CPAC: ‘I’ve Learned’ Since Immigration Debate
Actually, he's just learned to lie a little better.
Other recent speeches he's given are all on the pro-amnesty side. So he is actually just as much in favor of a big amnesty but thinks he can get away with lying to CPAC about it.
TooConservative posted on 2015-02-27 16:23:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #3. To: nativist nationalist (#0)
Uh-huh. LOL
out damned spot posted on 2015-02-27 19:13:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #4. To: nativist nationalist (#0) (Edited)
I like how he has experienced an epiphany on the subject, now that he's running for office, just like the epiphany he experienced once he got to Washington DC and Trent Lott's crowd of well funded co-opting.
Amazingly sudden epiphany, ain't it?
Rubio is a very good and confident liar. He's as much pro-illegal invasion and Amnesty as 0buma. I hope Pubbie voters don't come down with their usual case of amnesia.
Liberator posted on 2015-02-28 0:10:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #5. To: TooConservative (#2)
He's just learned to lie a little better.
Other recent speeches he's given are all on the pro-amnesty side. So he is actually just as much in favor of a big amnesty but thinks he can get away with lying to CPAC about it.
Have you noticed just how comfortable he is at lying? And avoiding his blatant lying and two-facedness on the subject?
I was disappointed in the lack of robust booing when both he and Jeb walked out in front of CPAC. Jeb looked like a nervous Nellie when face to face with Hannity.
Liberator posted on 2015-02-28 0:13:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #6. To: Rufus T Firefly (#1)
1. It is okay to say whatever is necessary (i.e. lie) to the rubes to win elections, as long as they remember:
2. Once elected, they MUST dance to the tune of the RULING CLASS (and make it as easy as possible to increase the voting rolls of the democrap party)
Forgetting rule two is NOT an option. It could be hazardous to their (or their family's) health.
At this point in time I'm afraid you're right (which mean we no longer live under the delusion that the USA is a "Republic" by ANY definition.)
The closest candidate we have to tempering the RULING CLASS/Shadow Gubmint script for their New World Order monopoly is...Cruz.
Liberator posted on 2015-02-28 0:17:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
I hope Pubbie voters don't come down with their usual case of amnesia.
My dream has been for a Sunni-Shia Thirty Years War. Those effin RINO's better not interfere with them killing each other, they already messed up the Iran-Iraq War, which was a thing of beauty. I can picture the Sunni-Shia Thirty Years War kicking off in 2018, 400 years after the original, and winding up in 2048, and leaving the Middle East like the original left Germany; a devastated land with a quarter of the population it had 30 years before.
Have you noticed just how comfortable he is at lying? And avoiding his blatant lying and two-facedness on the subject?
His fanbois would tell you it just makes him look presidential. After Bush Junior and Barry at the WH, you can't deny their point.
I was disappointed in the lack of robust booing when both he and Jeb walked out in front of CPAC. Jeb looked like a nervous Nellie when face to face with Hannity.
Jeb got a lot of booing despite the cheerbots he imported on buses. Jeb was only nervous about the booing, he knew Vannity would never take him on.
