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Title: I Need To Buy A New Computer... (Suggestions?)
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Published: Feb 19, 2015
Author: Myself
Post Date: 2015-02-19 23:34:50 by Chuck_Wagon
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Views: 12949
Comments: 31

The Intel Atom 2 (a Foxconn 525) sizzled completely.
The (offline) Intel Atom 1 (Foxconn 330) has
been working just fine - but the keyboard sizzled.
With a new keyboard it is working just fine.
But hey - a new machine is needed.

I've bought only one AMD (an old Athlon) in my life.
(years ago.) Worked great. Until it no longer did (at all).
And the very ancient Celeron D (on which I'm posting this)
is a trooper - and still working at this moment.

So I'm contemplating a 3Ghz-and-up AMD - for low bucks.
Anybody got any ideas?
On reputable mail-oder places - not just machines.

Eh?
Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated!

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#1. To: Chuck_Wagon (#0)

I've been buying from Dell online for the longest time and haven't had any issues with computers. Did have a few issues with monitors but they were the old "tube type" monitors which Dell replaced with no hassle. Am posting this from an XP machine.

I usually don't buy a monitor with the computer cause I can always find a better deal somewhere else. In fact just ordered a Dell 22" Full HD Widescreen LED Monitor #E2215HV yesterday for $119 to replace my old 17" flatscreen that I dropped and it's acting kinda wonky.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/391029778006?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D391029778006%26_rdc%3D1

If you have a particular keyboard or mouse that you like then EBay can be a good place to find one for a good price.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-20   9:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Chuck_Wagon (#0)

This website sometimes has some outstanding deals. Before Christmas they had a pretty good Asus Laptop for $300. They have desktops on specials too. This sounds pretty good: *NEW* Acer Aspire AT3-600-UR33 Celeron G1620 LGA1155, 4GB, 500GB Windows 8 Desktop PC for $179.99

http://slickdeals.net/f/7670550-new-acer-aspire-at3-600-ur33-celeron-g1620-lga1155-4gb-500gb-windows-8-desktop-pc-for-179

slickdeals.net

Operation 40  posted on  2015-02-20   9:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: CZ82 (#1)

I usually don't buy a monitor with the computer cause
I can always find a better deal somewhere else.

Same here.
And I always buy keyboards and mice separately -
not because of price - but because I want what
I want. The standard Logitech infra-red 3 button
wheel mouse and the Logitech K120 keyboard.
Always. And yes - they must both be black.
I've just gotten used to the things.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-20   9:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Operation 40 (#2)

Acer Aspire AT3-600-UR33 Celeron G1620 LGA1155, 4GB, 500GB
Windows 8 Desktop PC for $179.99 ...

Sounds pretty good - but now that I think of it,
I want FAST - as in FAST FAST. The following does not have any memory -
but I have a few random memory sticks floating around.
It also does not include a hard drive - but I recently bought a
'4 terrabyte' external USB drive (which actually turned out to be 3.4 TB).
So I'll buy a 250GB (or 500GB) to boot from - use the 340 TB for everything else.

AMD APU FM2 5300 3.4GHz DUAL CORE BAREBONES DESKTOP - $217.00.

3.4GHz is FAST - ain't it?

I'm coming to conclusion that if I want a fast fast, it's gonna be
some bucks bucks. But at least it's pretty spiffy looking...

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-20   14:51:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Chuck_Wagon (#0)

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated!

Ask a 13 year old kid.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-02-20   19:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: SOSO (#5)

Ask a 13 year old kid.

Will not work -
I don't speak "13 year old kid-speak".

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-20   20:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Chuck_Wagon (#6)

Will not work -

I don't speak "13 year old kid-speak".

Find a 10 year old to interpret for you.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-02-20   20:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: SOSO (#7)

Find a 10 year old to interpret for you.

Well, there is my ten year old second cousin Brian...

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-20   20:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Chuck_Wagon (#0)

What on Earth do you need a computer for?

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-20   21:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Chuck_Wagon (#4)

but I have a few random memory sticks floating around.

DDR3?

DDR4 is already out.

Operation 40  posted on  2015-02-20   21:33:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: SOSO (#5)

" Ask a 13 year old kid. "

LOL! Ain't that the truth.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-02-21   16:34:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Operation 40 (#10)

DDR3?

Yup. Some 4 GBs.
Just found them on top of the DVR. (Which I've never used.)

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-21   19:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Pridie.Nones (#9)

What on Earth do you need a computer for?

Danged if I know. LOL!
To look up recipes I guess.
This durned internet thing ya know...

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-21   19:17:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Chuck_Wagon (#4)

I hate the computers with those LED lights that can't turn off.

Pericles  posted on  2015-02-21   19:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Chuck_Wagon (#13)

Buy a Raspberry for about 35 bucks. Build your own system since all you need is text type data system; use your old keyboards + old monitors + old mouse. If you have a current disk based system use it as a server to store your limited text based requirements.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-21   22:10:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Chuck_Wagon (#0)

Find a Dell XPS 8700 desktop CPU with 16 gig RAM. COSTCO had some a while back.

Me too---I like Dell and the kids like Apple.

TEA Party Reveler  posted on  2015-02-21   22:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Chuck_Wagon (#3)

I become attached to the Dell L100 keyboards, big keys/letters for "Blind Melon Chitlins" and for fat fingers like me. :)

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-22   8:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Chuck_Wagon (#4)

'4 terrabyte' external USB drive (which actually turned out to be 3.4 TB).

You got a lot of pictures and music?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-22   8:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: CZ82 (#18)

You got a lot of pictures and music?

Of course. Videos too. Full length movies - and all that.

Gotta save all of these things - so that when the
machines or hard drives blow up I can lose
all of the stuff.

Unless I buy more, more and ever more hard drive space.
And hope and pray that it doesn't blow up also.

Sure, I can, and do, burn DVDs - but only so much that
I need to - or am willing - to do.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-24   17:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Chuck_Wagon (#19)

Unless I buy more, more and ever more hard drive space. And hope and pray that it doesn't blow up also.

External hard drives aren't that expensive and unless you use one quite a bit it should last until it's about obsolete and ready to be replaced.

I use one just for backing up everything when I have to reformat and for all my music. Comes in real handy for parties and you have enough music to last for a week or two continuously played... :)

Got my new monitor yesterday and man is it nice, talk about night and day compared to the 17". It's also a lot nicer than the 2-20s I bought just a year or 2 ago for the other computers.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-24   18:05:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: CZ82 (#20)

"...Got my new monitor yesterday..."

Yup.

I got this 22" LG flat screen about two years ago.
I never again will buy anything smaller.
But then - my vision is pretty bad anyway...

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-25   5:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Operation 40 (#10)

DDR4 is already out.

What is the benefit of DDR4 other than speed?
Who/what supports it at the present time?

I don't need the latest/fastest/bestest/mammy-jammy thing -
unless I do, of course...

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-25   5:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: All (#22)

CUSTOM AMD APU FM2 5300 3.4GHz DUAL CORE BAREBONES GAMING DESKTOP PC SYSTEM $217.00

Or the Dell 2.93 GHZ (Itel)

- It comes down to AMD or Intel - bottom line.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-25   5:53:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Chuck_Wagon (#23)

If your looking for a portable computer. Here is a 25 pound one.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-25   7:00:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#24)

...a portable computer ... a 25 pound one...

Cool!

Is there a model that comes with a 32 inch flat
screen that sort of 'folds away' into nowhere?
Another dimension, or something?

No?

I guess we are then back to the Intel versus AMD
debate - (which no one really seems to be interested in).
Personally, I'm leaning AMD - more bang for the buck.
I've only ever owned ONE AMD machine in my life - an old AMD
Athlon. It served it's purpose so well that I don't remember
what happened to it. It never caused me any trouble, in other
words.

But I'll give that 25lb deal some seeerious conseederation - you-betcha!

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-25   16:00:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#24)

That looks familiar isn't that the one you had at Homers place?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-26   8:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: CZ82 (#26)

...looks familiar isn't that the one you had at Homers place?

Where is/was 'Homer's' place?

There used to be 'Rick's' place - the bachelor pad -
(that was also occupied by 'Grink' and his igauna) -
but I remember no 'Homer'.

But when I was off on a (pleasure) trip, Rick wrecked
my motorcycle - so I moved out.

That was decades ago.

Yamaha 650 Heritage Special - A fun bike - and low cost.
(He (Rick) borrowed it without asking...)

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-26   15:33:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Chuck_Wagon (#6)

LOL I'll ask my 15 year old son tonight:)

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   15:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Chuck_Wagon (#23)

It comes down to AMD or Intel - bottom line.

Zotac Mini PC Barebones System ZBOX-BI320-U
Price: $111.99 & FREE Shipping

  • processor: Intel Celeron 2957U Processor
  • Memory: 2x 204-pin DDR3L-1600 SODIMM Memory, Max Capacity of 16GB
  • Hard Drive: Support 2.5-inch SATA3 HDD/SSD

    Well speaking of "bottom line" -- I don't do gaming (and have no desperate need for speed) so this is what I just ordered from Amazon. I expect it to arrive either tomorrow or Saturday...
    My "bottom line" was only $111.99 & FREE Shipping!!! plus another $36.99 for 4 Gb RAM to stick in it. I already have a 2.5" hard drives I can use in it with Linux Mint as the OS.
    Oh... and I had to pick up a DVI-D monitor cable for it.
    It has HDMI & DVI-D output, no VGA.
    And my flatscreen monitor has VGA & DVI-D inputs, no HDMI.

    So for a grand total of $158 plus tax and FREE Shipping, I have my fingers crossed, hoping I did pretty good.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-02-26   16:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Willie Green (#29)

Okay.
You are now the front-runner in the contest.
I shall keep you advised. Eh? Thanks!

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-02-26   17:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Chuck_Wagon (#30)

Okay. You are now the front-runner in the contest. I shall keep you advised. Eh? Thanks!

I'm glad to help, especially since I just went through this analysis when my Dell OptiPlex 780 USFF gave up the ghost and I had to dig my ancient Compaq Evo D510 e-pc out of the closet. LOL! I haven't bought a NEW computer in almost 20 years (peed too much money down the drain trying to keep up with changing technology before that.) But the technology has finally become inexpensive enough that I'm willing to buy a NEW machine (barebones) rather than look for bargains on the used market.

But your needs may be different than mine, so please let me show you a couple alternatives that I was considering.

As I mentioned previously, it was important to me that the new machine could both use my existing 2.5 hard drive and monitor (I already have an external USB CD/DVD drive, so I didn't need an internal one also). So the Intel Thin Canyon NUC Kit was an early contender based on brand name recognition and VGA output. But the Zotac Z-Box eventually won out based on cheaper price, slightly more powerful processor & USB 3.0 ports instead of 2.0.

If my monitor had an HDMI input and I wasn't overly concerned with using my 2.5" hard drive, I'd certainly be tempted by HP Chromebox CB1-020 Desktop (Google Chrome OS) or HP Stream 200-010 Mini Desktop(Windows 8). Both are nice, compact units that take up little space and perfect for light, everyday use (email, web browsing, videos, etc.) Plenty of USB 3.0 ports to connect external drives, built-in WiFi & Bluetooth, built-in media card reader.... Heck, if your eyesight is getting as bad as mine, you'd be tempted to connect one of these puppies directly to a flatscreen TV instead of a monitor (use it with a wireless keyboard/mouse/trackball from the comfort of your La-Z-Boy Recliner!) Only thing I might want to do is boost their RAM up to at least 4Gb instead of only 2.

LOL! If I'm not careful, I just might convince myself that I made the wrong decision and should've bought one of these other units instead... But like I said, I don't do any heavy duty gaming or "real" computing like CAD or sophisticated spreadsheets or data processing or whatever that would require a more powerful desktop machine. Just routine home use

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-02-27   7:23:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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