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Title: Franklin Graham: Secularists have taken control of America
Source: One News Now
URL Source: http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2 ... -have-taken-control-of-america
Published: Feb 4, 2015
Author: Michael F. Haverluck
Post Date: 2015-02-13 14:14:58 by redleghunter
Keywords: None
Views: 49710
Comments: 154

Addressing the crowd at the Oklahoma State Evangelism Conference last week, world-renowned evangelist Franklin Graham admittedly took a different spin than his iconic father, Billy Graham, on the podium and criticized America, declaring that "secularists have taken control of our country."

The president of the Billy Graham Evangelist Association admonished believers in America for standing by while godless, democratically appointed government officials rip the Christian foundation of the country out from under them.

"Our country has changed, and we've got to take a stand," Graham exhorted the Oklahoma City crowd, according to The Christian Post. "We live in a secular society led by people that call themselves progressives. Secularists … have taken control of our country. And we have just sat back and it's happened. And we haven't even realized it's happened."

Not my father's world

Graham then said that he is not afraid to talk about many of the issues his father didn't typically address and critique, noting that the bulk of the senior Graham's ministry took place during a time before American society thoroughly divorced itself from God. He explained how Billy Graham's school days weren't riddled with fears that students would be punished for handing out Christian literature, forming Bible clubs or leading organized prayer.

"Well, you say, 'Now Franklin, you father wouldn't get onto these subjects,'" insinuated Graham, who is also the president of Samaritan's Purse, a nonprofit Christian humanitarian organization. "Wait a second … My father, when he was going to school, they had a Bible in school. When he was going to school, they had the Ten Commandments on the wall. When he was going to school, you could pray in school, and the teachers would lead in those prayers."

Since his father, the 92-year-old Billy Graham, grew up decades before God, Bible reading and prayer were removed from the public schools in 1963 — which is also the year that evolution replaced creation as the dominant teaching about the origins of man and the universe — the younger 62-year-old Graham argues that the changed times call for him to speak on the many moral issues that Christians now face on a daily basis.

"The secularists and the humanists … you mention the name of Christ, they jump all over you," Graham contended. "I get jumped on all the time. I don't really care."

Secularization infiltration

Graham went on to argue that the secularization of society has long since extended beyond the schoolhouse gate, infiltrating virtually every facet of American society.

Graham

"It's all over the country," Graham insisted. "You have the secularists and the humanists who are wanting to deny that Jesus ever existed."

Billy Graham's son then talked about the ironic twist that came about in the late 1980s and early 1990s — a time when the Cold War ended and hearts went cold to God, as secularism, socialism and communism entered into American education, society and politics full force.

"When the Berlin wall came down, everybody said: 'We won,'" Graham remembered. "And secularism came. And secularism and communism are the same thing. They're godless. They're antichrist."

Only One hope, not 12

Graham argues that America is not what it used to be, as it has turned its back on the Christian principles upon which it was founded. And as another presidential election draws near, he contends that conservative politicians aren't the answer.

"America has changed and it's not coming back unless the Church takes a stand," Graham insisted. "Now I'm not talking about Baptists or Republicans or Tea Party … I have no confidence that any of these politicians or any party is going to turn this country around."

In the midst of the current political frenzy taking place, with a dozen conservative prospective candidates promising that they can turn America around from its godless, destructive path, Graham promises that no politician can deliver the country from falling apart.

"There is only one who can save — only one … Jesus," Graham added. "You see, Jesus is in the boat. All we have to do is call Him, call on His name."

As godless policies and laws continue to work their way into American society — from God being ousted from the public schools in 1963, to Roe v. Wade ushering in legalized abortion in 1973, to the floodgate of same-sex "marriage" opening in 2004, to the normalization of homosexual behavior in the military in 2011 — Graham warns that America will be judged for its disobedience and repudiation of God's Word.

"There are storms that are coming," Graham foretold. "The only hope for this country is for men and women of God to stand up and take a stand."

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#61. To: VxH (#53)

The great majority" chose NOT to include "Jesus Christ".

Why was that?

For further clarification:

It clearly means that even many of the Christian Founders majorities felt it unnecessary to specifically overtly mention Jesus Christ within a political instrument since the Father and [Son] were already assumed to be the "Author" of liberty and "unalienable rights" in any case.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-13   21:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: VxH (#60)

But you said "the Father and He".

Jefferson was a Unitarian.

What does that mean?

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=37828&Disp=61#C61

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-13   21:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Liberator (#56)

Jefferson was just one of many MANY "political philosophers"

Just one of the political philosophers whose ideas inspired the American Revolution... and others?

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   21:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Liberator (#62)

Do Unitarians believe in the Trinity?

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   21:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Liberator (#61)

It clearly means that even many of the Christian Founders majorities felt it unnecessary to specifically overtly mention Jesus Christ within a political instrument

Maybe in your revisionist, Fallible and Uninspired, tiny brain.

Meanwhile in reality land what Jefferson CLEARLY wrote was:

"in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination."

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   21:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: VxH (#59)

Any of those folks sign Jefferson's Politicaly Philosophical declaration of independence?

HA! Now you claim the DoI is TJ's?? NEWSFLASH: It wasn't Jefferson's DoI; It was ALL of the Founders, including collaborations and contribution from several other Founders. Jefferson articulated it into words. A great job I might add. But he had a lott of help as mentioned. We've already reviewed this, but you want to rehash it until you've crowns Jefferson King of the US, and MVP of US History? LOL -- not the way it was.

Why the obsession on deifying Jefferson and over-exaggerating his contribution to the new republic's freedom? No, really. Is it because you are kindred spirits, subscribing to the Swiss Cheese version of the Bible with all the supernatural parts and miracles of Jesus missing?

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-13   21:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Liberator (#66) (Edited)

HA! Now you claim the DoI is TJ's?? NEWSFLASH: It wasn't Jefferson's DoI;

"In 1776 Jefferson, then a member of the committee to draft a declaration of independence, was chosen by the committee to write the draft. This he did, with some minor corrections from John Adams and an embellishment from Franklin, the document was offered to the Congress on the first day of July."

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/signers/jefferson.htm

FAIL again Libertard.

Who wrote the Virginia Act for Establishing Religious Freedom?
www.google.com/#q=Fallibl...men+have+assumed+dominion

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   21:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: VxH (#63)

Just one of the political philosophers whose ideas inspired the American Revolution... and others?

Others?? Are. You. Serious?? Try 52 signers of the DoI for starters. And some important Founders that didn't even sign it. Like George Washington.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-13   21:50:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Liberator (#68) (Edited)

And others like Ho Chi Minh, super genius - who were inspired by the American Declaration of Independence.

Who wrote the draft of that again?

"In 1776 Jefferson, then a member of the committee to draft a declaration of independence, was chosen by the committee to write the draft. This he did, with some minor corrections from John Adams and an embellishment from Franklin, the document was offered to the Congress on the first day of July."

www.ushistory.org/declaration/signers/jefferson.htm

Oh, that's right - THOMAS JEFFERSON.

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   21:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Liberator (#66)

Why the obsession on deifying Jefferson

"ERRORS CEASING TO BE DANGEROUS WHEN IT PERMITTED FREELY TO CONTRADICT THEM"

Is Islamic Sharia law an ERROR that requires CONTRADICTING?

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   22:00:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: VxH (#67) (Edited)

The Second Continental Congress initially appointed five people to draw up a declaration. The committee included:

Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Roger Sherman, Robert Livingston and Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson was then given the task of writing a draft for the Declaration of Independence, which from June 11 to June 28 he worked on. Before he presented the Declaration to the Continental Congress, he showed it to John Adams and Benjamin Franklin; they made revisions. He presented the draft to Congress on July 1, 1776 and more revisions were made.

IOW, Jefferson was a secretary for Franklin, Adams, Sherman, and Livingston. Bosses, Adams and Franklin nixed Jefferson's initial presentations of the declaration. The draft underwent further edits and revisions until the delegates met on July 4th at the Pennsylvania State House, and approved the Declaration. John Hancock, the President of the Continental Congress ok'd it along with Charles Thomson. Afterward, Jefferson recieved a letter from his head slave. It seemed 253 of them had a cold, 15 slaves the mumps, 2 were pregnant, and the rest were healthy enough to work on Mass'ah's farm.

Do you ever wonder whether Jefferson ever coughed up bile as he wrote the phrase, "All men are created equal"?

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-13   22:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Liberator (#71)

IOW, Jefferson was a secretary for Franklin,

In YOUR words.

Fallible and Uninspired much?

You figure out if Unitarians believe in the Trinity yet, Super Parrot?

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   22:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: VxH (#65)

Yeah ...

Secular pluralism ---

Do you know what that means !

Stop playing with your political dildo collection !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-02-13   22:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Liberator (#71) (Edited)

Do you ever wonder whether Jefferson ever coughed up bile as he wrote the phrase, "All men are created equal"?

Nope.

If there's any "bile" it's probably just the ooze that's seeping into your tiny little religiously petrified brain at the thought of what "Fallible and Uninspired" means when you look in the mirror.

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   22:09:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: GarySpFC (#13)

Amen.

"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-13   22:10:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: BorisY (#73) (Edited)

Tsk tsk. Have you been making Vodka out of toilet seats again Boris - or just drinking out of the bowl as usual?

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   22:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: VxH (#76)

Drug suppositories for you !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-02-13   22:13:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: BorisY (#77)

Don't forget to put the lid back down after quenching your thirst.

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   22:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: VxH (#78) (Edited)

Liberals - libertarians control the language - mind - culture - politics ...

secularism - pluralism - is founding fathers - * THOMAS JEFFERSON * - Christianity - really good ---

diversity - fascism - atheism - satanism is brave new world * neocommunism * !

That's what you are ... troll - zombie --- statist - Satanist - neocom !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-02-13   22:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: BorisY (#79) (Edited)

Been psychotic long? They're going to take your teddy bear away again if you don't behave.

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   22:31:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: VxH (#80)

reality to you is an unknown non existent universe !

stay in your blow up play doll world !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-02-13   22:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: VxH (#80)

Liberals - libertarians control the language - mind - culture - politics ...

not mine ...

no thanks ---

stay lost - good riddance !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-02-13   22:39:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: BorisY (#82)

{ Ring Ring Ring }

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   22:42:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: VxH (#83) (Edited)

Liberals - libertarians - * * DIEVERSITARIANS * * - control the language - mind - culture - politics ...

secularism - pluralism - is founding fathers - * THOMAS JEFFERSON * - Christianity - really good ---

diversity - fascism - atheism - satanism is - * VxH * - brave new world * neocommunism * !

* That's what you are ... troll - zombie --- statist - Satanist - neocom !

Look up ... popery - buggery --- to see your bio - pic !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-02-13   22:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: BorisY (#84)

Psychotic * That's what you are ... crazy - loonie --- padded cell - Screwball - inpatient!

Do you feel like you're going to hurt yourself or others?

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   22:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: VxH (#85) (Edited)

Look up ... popery - buggery --- to see your bio - pic !

Aids too !

diversity - fascism - atheism - satanism is - * VxH * - brave new world * neocommunism * !

* pervert !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-02-13   22:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: BorisY (#84)

Have you ever considered applying for a local resident job @BlackSandsBeach as a panhandler? You would considered "gifted" about the meaningful content of your personal cardboard signs and perhaps make a fortune in Hawaii within your little tin-can cup daily groveling.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-13   22:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Pridie.Nones (#87)

Thanks for the ... bath house - opium den --- advice !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-02-13   23:01:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: BorisY (#86)

Do you wet your pajamas when the straight jacket is on?

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   23:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: VxH (#89)

YOU WOULD KNOW

Liberals - libertarians - * * DIEVERSITARIANS * * - control the language - mind - culture - politics ...

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-02-13   23:06:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: BorisY (#88)

BTW, how was golf with 0bama in Hawaii? I believe it was creatures such as yourself that necessitated the 0bama administration to find a way to pay for electro-shock therapy as a write-off.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-02-13   23:07:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: BorisY (#90)

Don't make me get out the cattle prod again little man.

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   23:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: VxH, GarySpFc, liberator, CZ82 (#33)

What does this mean?

It means the Virginia Act was not a secular skeptic manifesto. Let's look at it:

An Act for Establishing Religious Freedom Enacted by the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia January 16, 1786

Whereas Almighty God hath created the mind free; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the Holy author of our religion, who being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his Almighty power to do; that the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavouring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time; that to compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves, is sinful and tyrannical; that even the forcing him to support this or that teacher of his own religious persuasion, is depriving him of the comfortable liberty of giving his contributions to the particular pastor, whose morals he would make his pattern, and whose powers he feels most persuasive to righteousness, and is withdrawing from the ministry those temporary rewards, which proceeding from an approbation of their personal conduct, are an additional incitement to earnest and unremitting labours for the instruction of mankind; that our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry; that therefore the proscribing any citizen as unworthy the public confidence by laying upon him an incapacity of being called to offices of trust and emolument, unless he profess or renounce this or that religious opinion, is depriving him injuriously of those privileges and advantages to which in common with his fellow-citizens he has a natural right; that it tends only to corrupt the principles of that religion it is meant to encourage, by bribing with a monopoly of wor[l]dly honours and emoluments, those who will externally profess and conform to it; that though indeed these are criminal who do not withstand such temptation, yet neither are those innocent who lay the bait in their way; that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion, and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles on supposition of their ill tendency, is a dangerous fallacy, which at once destroys all religious liberty, because he being of course judge of that tendency will make his opinions the rule of judgement; and approve or condemn the sentiments of others only as they shall square with or differ from his own; that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them:

Be it enacted by the General Assembly, That no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.

And though we well know that this assembly elected by the people for the ordinary purposes of legislation only, have no power to restrain the acts of succeeding assemblies, constituted with powers equal to our own, and that therefore to declare this act to be irrevocable would be of no effect in law; yet we are free to declare, and do declare, that the rights hereby asserted are of the natural rights of mankind, and that if any act shall be hereafter passed to repeal the present, or to narrow its operation such act will be an infringement of natural right.

"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-13   23:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: VxH (#92)

You should ... hang out with owk --- my old nemesis - groupie !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-02-13   23:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: redleghunter (#93) (Edited)

It means the Virginia Act was not a secular skeptic manifesto.

That may be true.

But what does it say about Focus on the Family when it mentions Thomas Jefferson multiple times on its website - but not the Virginia Act for Establishing religious freedom?

"yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either"

Does the herd there not recognize the natural right of the Individual to establish the relationship between themselves and their Creator without collective coercion?

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   23:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: VxH, GarySpFc, liberator, CZ82 (#53)

The great majority" chose NOT to include "Jesus Christ".

Why was that?

The same reason some people of the era used "Divine Providence". They were serious people regarding Exodus 20:7. Some viewed using Jesus Christ as reserved for Gospel preaching and prayer. They were very reserved invoking the Name of Almighty God in the affairs of men.

Many as Gary has pointed out were not as reserved.

Don't know if you read the tome on Washington's faith called "Sacred Fire." In it there is much discussion on how Washington in his conduct of letters and prayer and worship followed the guidelines in the English Book of Prayer.

Here's a sample found in his prayer book:

Almighty God, and most merciful father, who didst command the children of Israel to offer a daily sacrifice to thee, that thereby they might glorify and praise thee for thy protection both night and day; receive, O Lord, my morning sacrifice which I now offer up to thee;

I yield thee humble and hearty thanks that thou has preserved me from the dangers of the night past, and brought me to the light of this day, and the comforts thereof, a day which is consecrated to thine own service and for thine own honor. Let my heart, therefore, Gracious God, be so affected with the glory and majesty of it, that I may not do mine own works, but wait on thee, and discharge those weighty duties thou requirest of me; and since thou art a God of pure eyes, and wilt be sanctified in all who draw near unto thee, who doest not regard the sacrifice of fools, nor hear sinners who tread in thy courts, pardon, I beseech thee, my sins, remove them from thy presence, as far as the east is from the west, and accept of me for the merits of thy son Jesus Christ, that when I come into thy temple, and compass thine altar, my prayers may come before thee as incense; and as thou wouldst hear me calling upon thee in my prayers, so give me grace to hear thee calling on me in thy word, that it may be wisdom, righteousness, reconciliation and peace to the saving of my soul in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Grant that I may hear it with reverence, receive it with meekness, mingle it with faith, and that it may accomplish in me, Gracious God, the good work for which thou has sent it. Bless my family, kindred, friends and country, be our God & guide this day and for ever for his sake, who lay down in the Grave and arose again for us, Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen.

"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-13   23:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: VxH (#95)

I posted the Act. No mention of Muslims or Ghandi.

"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-13   23:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: redleghunter (#96)

The same reason some people of the era used "Divine Providence"

Well if that explanation makes you happy that's nice. But I don't buy it.

I'll stick with Jefferson's explanation.

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   23:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: redleghunter (#97) (Edited)

No mention of Muslims or Ghandi.

Or Jesus.

Got Deism?

The Act is consistent with Free Masonry.

What is located 2 miles North of the Jefferson Memorial, and 1 mile North of the White House?

VxH  posted on  2015-02-13   23:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Liberator (#34)

AUSTIN, Tex. — After three days of turbulent meetings, the Texas Board of Education on Friday approved a social studies curriculum that will put a conservative stamp on history and economics textbooks, stressing the superiority of American capitalism, questioning the Founding Fathers’ commitment to a purely secular government and presenting Republican political philosophies in a more positive light...

...In recent years, board members have been locked in an ideological battle between a bloc of conservatives who question Darwin’s theory of evolution and believe the Founding Fathers were guided by Christian principles, and a handful of Democrats and moderate Republicans who have fought to preserve the teaching of Darwinism and the separation of church and state.

The really neat thing about this is that the textbooks Texas decides to use also determines the books rest of the nation uses.

“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-02-13   23:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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