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Title: Franklin Graham: Secularists have taken control of America
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URL Source: http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2 ... -have-taken-control-of-america
Published: Feb 4, 2015
Author: Michael F. Haverluck
Post Date: 2015-02-13 14:14:58 by redleghunter
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Addressing the crowd at the Oklahoma State Evangelism Conference last week, world-renowned evangelist Franklin Graham admittedly took a different spin than his iconic father, Billy Graham, on the podium and criticized America, declaring that "secularists have taken control of our country." The president of the Billy Graham Evangelist Association admonished believers in America for standing by while godless, democratically appointed government officials rip the Christian foundation of the country out from under them. "Our country has changed, and we've got to take a stand," Graham exhorted the Oklahoma City crowd, according to The Christian Post. "We live in a secular society led by people that call themselves progressives. Secularists … have taken control of our country. And we have just sat back and it's happened. And we haven't even realized it's happened." Not my father's world Graham then said that he is not afraid to talk about many of the issues his father didn't typically address and critique, noting that the bulk of the senior Graham's ministry took place during a time before American society thoroughly divorced itself from God. He explained how Billy Graham's school days weren't riddled with fears that students would be punished for handing out Christian literature, forming Bible clubs or leading organized prayer. "Well, you say, 'Now Franklin, you father wouldn't get onto these subjects,'" insinuated Graham, who is also the president of Samaritan's Purse, a nonprofit Christian humanitarian organization. "Wait a second … My father, when he was going to school, they had a Bible in school. When he was going to school, they had the Ten Commandments on the wall. When he was going to school, you could pray in school, and the teachers would lead in those prayers." Since his father, the 92-year-old Billy Graham, grew up decades before God, Bible reading and prayer were removed from the public schools in 1963 — which is also the year that evolution replaced creation as the dominant teaching about the origins of man and the universe — the younger 62-year-old Graham argues that the changed times call for him to speak on the many moral issues that Christians now face on a daily basis. "The secularists and the humanists … you mention the name of Christ, they jump all over you," Graham contended. "I get jumped on all the time. I don't really care." Secularization infiltration Graham went on to argue that the secularization of society has long since extended beyond the schoolhouse gate, infiltrating virtually every facet of American society. Graham "It's all over the country," Graham insisted. "You have the secularists and the humanists who are wanting to deny that Jesus ever existed." Billy Graham's son then talked about the ironic twist that came about in the late 1980s and early 1990s — a time when the Cold War ended and hearts went cold to God, as secularism, socialism and communism entered into American education, society and politics full force. "When the Berlin wall came down, everybody said: 'We won,'" Graham remembered. "And secularism came. And secularism and communism are the same thing. They're godless. They're antichrist." Only One hope, not 12 Graham argues that America is not what it used to be, as it has turned its back on the Christian principles upon which it was founded. And as another presidential election draws near, he contends that conservative politicians aren't the answer. "America has changed and it's not coming back unless the Church takes a stand," Graham insisted. "Now I'm not talking about Baptists or Republicans or Tea Party … I have no confidence that any of these politicians or any party is going to turn this country around." In the midst of the current political frenzy taking place, with a dozen conservative prospective candidates promising that they can turn America around from its godless, destructive path, Graham promises that no politician can deliver the country from falling apart. "There is only one who can save — only one … Jesus," Graham added. "You see, Jesus is in the boat. All we have to do is call Him, call on His name." As godless policies and laws continue to work their way into American society — from God being ousted from the public schools in 1963, to Roe v. Wade ushering in legalized abortion in 1973, to the floodgate of same-sex "marriage" opening in 2004, to the normalization of homosexual behavior in the military in 2011 — Graham warns that America will be judged for its disobedience and repudiation of God's Word. "There are storms that are coming," Graham foretold. "The only hope for this country is for men and women of God to stand up and take a stand."
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#26. To: Liberator (#21)
Nope, but he's the primary author of the Declaration of Independence. Because his American ideals should be conserved. And that's not obsessive, it's Conservative.
“Should not the Bible regain the place it once held as a school book? Its morals are pure, its examples, captivating and noble. In no book is there so good English, so pure and so elegant; and by teaching all the same book, they will speak alike, and the Bible will justly remain the standard of language as wellas of faith.” Fisher Ames: Author of the First Amendment
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
We didn't! Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists was never included in the Constitution or The Bill of Rights. It was simply a tool for Secularists to gain power by misusing the power of the courts. "Christianity becomes not merely an auxiliary, but a guide, to the law of nature; establishing its conclusions, removing its doubts, and elevating its precepts." Joseph Story, "The Value and Importance of Legal Studies," a lecture delivered August 25, 1829 at his inauguration as Dane Professor of Law in Harvard University, cited in James McClellan, Joseph Story and the American Constitution (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma, 1971), p. 66. Story served as Associate Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court from 1811-1845, and founded the Harvard Law School.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
Liar Liar. "Before approving the standards on Friday, board members adopted scores of additional changes - including the restoration of Thomas Jefferson's name to a list of political philosophers that students will study in world history. Board members had come under criticism for removing Jefferson's name earlier this year though they pointed out that Jefferson would still be studied in other areas of the curriculum such as U.S. history and government." What do "Remove" and "Restore" mean? Ooops!
What was the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom, and who Authored that - along with primary authorship of the Declaration of Independence? Let's see what he had to say: "Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read, "a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination." --Thomas Jefferson http://www.google.com/#q=Christian+and+Mahometan%2C+the+Hindoo%2C+and+Infidel+of+every+denomination What does "the insertion was rejected by a great majority," mean?
In governance or in our morals, ethics, and values? I hope you're not asserting that Focus on the Family believes the USA ought to be a "Theocracy." Because that would be a crock. Btw, I'm still trying to learn why your consider the 'Focus on the Family' a "farce." If you can find a better example of citizenship tenets, I'm all ears. Q: In your opinion, is the United States of America better off abiding in their "Six Pillars," or with the way things are at the moment?
"Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read, "a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination." --Thomas Jefferson Where does Focus on the Family articulate that historical FACT?
Your search - Thomas Jefferson "Virginia Act" site:www.focusonthefamily.com - did not match any documents. Suggestions:
And he had several FF authors review several drafts. That makes him a co-author of an outline and idea that numerous other FFs contributed to, logistically facilitated, or sacrificed for. Because his American ideals should be conserved. And that's not obsessive, it's Conservative. But the ideal of "America" are a collaborative effort. Jefferson is merely on wheel in the cog. Truth is, NO USA would ever have been established were all the Founders TJ's brand of Deism. ONLY because the majority of Founders were Christian, wwas this collaboration able to take place. www.google.com/#q=Texas+Curriculum+Jefferson AUSTIN, Tex. — After three days of turbulent meetings, the Texas Board of Education on Friday approved a social studies curriculum that will put a conservative stamp on history and economics textbooks, stressing the superiority of American capitalism, questioning the Founding Fathers’ commitment to a purely secular government and presenting Republican political philosophies in a more positive light... ...In recent years, board members have been locked in an ideological battle between a bloc of conservatives who question Darwin’s theory of evolution and believe the Founding Fathers were guided by Christian principles, and a handful of Democrats and moderate Republicans who have fought to preserve the teaching of Darwinism and the separation of church and state. AMEN!! It's all good! http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html?_r=0 Oh yeah -- and then how radical! Btw -- according the Leftist hacks at the New York Times, Thomas Jefferson was "cut from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century...." Now tell me -- exactly WHAT writings of his "inspired revolutions"?? Answer: NONE. Again, Jefferson more or less spoke for the ENTIRE GROUP. Whose writings and big idea DID inspire others?: St. Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and William Blackstone. BINGO. Look up what each of them did. Then compare them to TJ. Thomas Jeffeson does not nearly represent all the Founders; Moreover, the ONLY reason the Lefties ONLY mention TJ out of all the FFs is because of his oft misquoted, misunderstood, invented phrase, "Separation of Church and State." Lastly, you asserted that the 'Focus on the Family' "write Jefferson out of American history." Bogus.
Most of the Founders felt the same way about the Bible, and made it mandatory reading in American schooling for decades.
Here, let me help you with that: ============= Your search - Thomas Jefferson "Virginia Act" site:www.focusonthefamily.com - did not match any documents. Suggestions:
"the insertion [of Jesus Christ] was rejected by a great majority," What does this mean?
I forget - How many wives did King David have again?
Ooops! Your reading comprehension is sorely lacking. Read it again and weep: Capisce?? That's right -- read it again in its proper context. The Texas school board removed Jefferson from the "political philosophers" category, but already remained in the "US History" and "Government" sections. Geez -- did you alkso want him mentioned in the "Religion" or "Messiah" categories as well?? Give it up. This story is written very ambiguously, and you took the bait, as had many. Afterall, it IS the New York Times. It's said they have an agenda. And McAudience. HELLO.
Answer: NONE. LOL. Are you serious - The Declaration of Independence didn't inspire a revolution? I'm pretty sure it "inspired" the American Revolution - as well as others: On August 30, 1945, Hồ Chí Minh invited several people to contribute their ideas toward his Proclamation of Independence. OSS officers met repeatedly with Ho Chi Minh and other Viet Minh officers during late August and Archimedes Patti claims to have listened to Ho read to him a draft of the Proclamation which he believed sounded very similar to the American Declaration of Independence.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proclamation_of_Independence_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_Vietnam http://www.google.com/#q=ho+chi+minh+%22declaration+of+independence%22 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_in_the_Minds_of_Men
The Primary Author of the Declaration of Independence and the Author of the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom wasn't, according to the Revisionist Texas School Board, a Political Philosopher? LOL. Capisce??
My reading comprehension is just fine. "Your search - Thomas Jefferson "Virginia Act" site:www.focusonthefamily.com - did not match any documents." What does this mean?
I forget - How many wives did King David have again? What -- Are you saying the Holy Bible isn't full of noble stories, virtue, and love? What should school children read? Thomas Jefferson's biography? THAT would be interesting. How virtuous a leader of his people was he? Oh, that's right -- as the author of, "All men are created equal" Jefferson once owned 600 slaves, and impregnated others. Look -- Jefferson did was an accomplished man, but he was a man, just one of many important Founders -- none of whom warrant any mention with King David. King David lived HOW many centuries ago in B.C.? Before the New Covenant. As a favorite of God the Father. Jesus claimed Himself as a proud descendant of David. And yes, King David was indeed was noble. Or are you now going to question the motives and integrity of God the Father and testimony of Jesus Christ?
Are YOU serious?? Jefferson himself "inspired" the revolution? NEWSFLASH: The "revolution" was already in progress. Uh, nice spin
The Polygamist King David in the Bible? That one?
LOL -- now you're capitalizing "PRIMARY"? Look -- Jefferson was given an outline, discussed and debated among other Founders. He wrote and composed the final draft with a lot of help. I'm still willing to give him a lot of credit, don't worry. "Political Philosopher"?? Since when is that a category of history? Sounds like neo-socialist BS to me. Who else is was there before the conservatives on the school board cleaned house? Al Sharpton? This was about removing all the liberal and Leftists cirriculum that they'd hijacked from the original cirriculum. Hey -- did you even read the NYT article and the changes made that carved up what had been a liberal curriculum?? But my bad -- you're liberal, aretcha? Here read it again: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html?_r=0
The IDEAS, articulated in the American Declaration for Independence, certainly were among the "Fire in the Minds of [American] Men". Philosophical IDEAS - like the ones Hồ Chí Minh picked up and ran with a couple of hundred years later: How do you and the Texas revisionists reconcile the fact that Thomas Jefferson's philosophical Declaration evidently ALSO inpsired Ho?
That one? Yup, that David, that's how they rolled in B.C. That same David who was an ancestor of Jesus Christ, of whom was often called "Son of David." The same David who God called a "man after his own heart." THAT David. Got a problem with it? Take it to The Lord Himself (NOT to be confused with *cough, hack* Tommy "Where is Slave Number 576?" Jefferson.)
Not following. You're cutting and pasting out of context and sequence.
"Political Philosopher"?? Since when is that a category of history? Sounds like neo-socialist BS to me. " politics, liberty, justice, property, rights, law, and the enforcement of a legal code by authority" Yep just BS, to you. Does Plato's Republic ring any bells in your tiny religified brain?
Yep the "Moral" polygamist. That one. Just checking.
--Thomas Jefferson What does "the insertion was rejected by a great majority," mean? It clearly means that even many of the Christian Founders majorities felt it unnecessary to specifically overtly mention Jesus Christ within a political instrument since the Father and He was already assumed to be the "Author" in any case. That said, you're delusional if you believe the rest of the Founders by and large endorsed the "inclusive" language of, "Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination."
libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...?ArtNum=37828&Disp=32#C32 "The great majority" chose NOT to include "Jesus Christ". Why was that?
Jefferson believed in "the Father and He" do tell?
I believe Thomas Jefferson said "the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination." That's not delusion, it's historical FACT.
I know this'll just blow your mind, but ALL of the signees of the DoI were indeed Political Philosophers. And so is every politician. And so are you and I. Does Plato's Republic ring any bells in your tiny religified brain? Yes it does. Like a gong. Compared to Jefferson's *clank* of a champagne glass. Jefferson was just one of many MANY "political philosophers" among the Founders. Why must he be elevated in the Pantheon of Secular Humanism's Hall of Fame...er, I mean, in the Texas Board of Education's "Political Philosophers" category? I'll tell you why: Because he wasn't a Christian. Why did the Texas Board of Education tried also to shove "Evolution" down the kids throats? Same reason. Why did the new conservative Texas Board of Education require that the history of McCarthyism also now include “how the later release of the Venona papers confirmed suspicions of communist infiltration in U.S. government”? It moves and balances education TO THE RIGHT. The new conservative Texas Board of Education also included a plank to ensure that students learn about “the conservative resurgence of the 1980s and 1990s, including Phyllis Schlafly, the Contract With America, the Heritage Foundation, the Moral Majority and the National Rifle Association.” I guess you've also got a problem with IT. All because Tommy Jefferson' has been demoted in the "political philosophers" section, along with words he never wrote OR uttered: "Separation of Church and State."
That's not delusion, it's historical FACT. Nice re-spin. I said, "You're delusional if you believe the rest of the Founders by and large endorsed the inclusive language of, 'Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination.'" You're welcome.
He = Jesus Christ. In the context of Author." Again, your reading comprehension and choppy cut & paste are hitting speed bumps.
"a great majority" Any of those folks sign Jefferson's Politicaly Philosophical declaration of independence? The IDEAs articulated in the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom are the same IDEAs distilled into the 1st Amendment's prohibition against State-establishments - lest Rome's CaeSARean MYSTERY whores perch a King upon the steps of their temples on this side of the pond.
But you said "the Father and He". Jefferson was a Unitarian. What does that mean?
Why was that? For further clarification: It clearly means that even many of the Christian Founders majorities felt it unnecessary to specifically overtly mention Jesus Christ within a political instrument since the Father and [Son] were already assumed to be the "Author" of liberty and "unalienable rights" in any case.
Jefferson was a Unitarian. What does that mean? http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=37828&Disp=61#C61
Just one of the political philosophers whose ideas inspired the American Revolution... and others?
Do Unitarians believe in the Trinity?
Maybe in your revisionist, Fallible and Uninspired, tiny brain. Meanwhile in reality land what Jefferson CLEARLY wrote was: "in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination."
HA! Now you claim the DoI is TJ's?? NEWSFLASH: It wasn't Jefferson's DoI; It was ALL of the Founders, including collaborations and contribution from several other Founders. Jefferson articulated it into words. A great job I might add. But he had a lott of help as mentioned. We've already reviewed this, but you want to rehash it until you've crowns Jefferson King of the US, and MVP of US History? LOL -- not the way it was. Why the obsession on deifying Jefferson and over-exaggerating his contribution to the new republic's freedom? No, really. Is it because you are kindred spirits, subscribing to the Swiss Cheese version of the Bible with all the supernatural parts and miracles of Jesus missing?
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Is Thomas Jefferson your god?
Why the obsession on him?
How did they "write Jefferson out of American history"?
#27. To: VxH, Liberator (#25)
Are they still asserting that America's founders intended this to be a Christian nation?
#28. To: VxH (#26)
How did they "write Jefferson out of American history"?
#29. To: GarySpFC (#28)
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We didn't!
www.dallasnews.com/news/e...ucation-approves-9206.ece
#30. To: GarySpFC (#27)
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#31. To: VxH (#25)
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Are they [Focus on the Family'] still asserting that America's founders intended this to be a Christian nation?
#32. To: Liberator (#31)
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In governance or in our morals, ethics, and values?
#33. To: Liberator (#31)
What does this mean?
#34. To: VxH, GarySpFC (#26)
He's [Jefferson] the primary author of the Declaration of Independence.
Why the obsession on him?
How did they "write Jefferson out of American history"?
#35. To: GarySpFC (#27)
“Should not the Bible regain the place it once held as a school book? Its morals are pure, its examples, captivating and noble. In no book is there so good English, so pure and so elegant; and by teaching all the same book, they will speak alike, and the Bible will justly remain the standard of language as wellas of faith.” ~ Fisher Ames: Author of the First Amendment
#36. To: Liberator (#34)
astly, you asserted that the 'Focus on the Family' "write Jefferson out of American history." Bogus.
Where does the Farce on the Family discuss the Virginia Act for the Establishment of Religious Freedom on their extensive website?
#37. To: Liberator (#35)
Most of the Founders felt the same way
#38. To: Liberator (#35)
Its morals are pure, its examples, captivating and noble.
#39. To: VxH, GarySpFC (#29)
What do "Remove" and "Restore" mean?
Board members had come under criticism for removing Jefferson's name [from list of political philosophers]...Earlier this year though they pointed out that [in any case] Jefferson would still be studied in other areas of the curriculum such as U.S. history and government."
#40. To: Liberator (#34)
Now tell me -- exactly WHAT writings of his "inspired revolutions"??
Oops.
#41. To: Liberator (#39)
The Texas school board removed Jefferson from the "political philosophers" category
#42. To: Liberator (#39)
Your reading comprehension is sorely lacking.
#43. To: VxH (#38)
(Its morals are pure, its examples, captivating and noble.)
#44. To: VxH (#40)
LOL. Are you serious - The Declaration of Independence didn't inspire a revolution?
#45. To: Liberator (#43)
King David lived HOW many centuries ago in B.C.?
#46. To: VxH (#41)
The Primary Author of the Declaration of Independence and the Author of the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom wasn't, according to the Revisionist Texas School Board, a Political Philosopher?
#47. To: Liberator (#44)
Are YOU serious?? Jefferson himself "inspired" the revolution? NEWSFLASH: The "revolution" was already in progress. Uh, nice spin
"On August 30, 1945, Hồ Chí Minh invited several people to contribute their ideas toward his Proclamation of Independence. OSS officers met repeatedly with Ho Chi Minh and other Viet Minh officers during late August and Archimedes Patti claims to have listened to Ho read to him a draft of the Proclamation which he believed sounded very similar to the American Declaration of Independence.[3]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proclamation_of_Independence_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_Vietnam
#48. To: VxH (#45)
The Polygamist King David in the Bible?
#49. To: VxH (#37)
#50. To: Liberator (#46)
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#51. To: Liberator (#48)
Yup, that David,
#52. To: VxH, GarySpFC, redleghunter (#30)
Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read, "a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination."
#53. To: Liberator (#49)
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Not following. You're cutting and pasting out of context and sequence.
#54. To: Liberator (#52)
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the Father and He
#55. To: Liberator (#52)
That said, you're delusional if you believe the rest of the Founders
#56. To: VxH (#50)
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#57. To: VxH (#55)
I believe Thomas Jefferson said "the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination."
#58. To: VxH (#54)
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Jefferson believed in "the Father and He" do tell?
#59. To: Liberator (#57)
#60. To: Liberator (#58)
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He = Jesus Christ.
#61. To: VxH (#53)
The great majority" chose NOT to include "Jesus Christ".
#62. To: VxH (#60)
But you said "the Father and He".
#63. To: Liberator (#56)
Jefferson was just one of many MANY "political philosophers"
#64. To: Liberator (#62)
#65. To: Liberator (#61)
It clearly means that even many of the Christian Founders majorities felt it unnecessary to specifically overtly mention Jesus Christ within a political instrument
#66. To: VxH (#59)
Any of those folks sign Jefferson's Politicaly Philosophical declaration of independence?
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