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Title: Remember me, Salvation part two
Source: ChristianPatriot.com
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Published: Feb 2, 2015
Author: Pastor Bob Celeste for ACP
Post Date: 2015-02-02 19:52:27 by BobCeleste
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Views: 3283
Comments: 14

Monday, February 2, 2015

Remember me, Salvation part two

So, you approach a friend wanting to tell him or her about Jesus, and this friend, we are going to call him Sam, asks you why he needs this religion stuff. What do you tell him?

Are you going to tell him how Jesus can make his life better, how the Lord can make him healthy, happy, wise and solve his financial problems? Are you going to tell him how Jesus loves him and died for his sins so that he can get into heaven? Or are you going to tell him, "Sam you need Jesus because you are a rotten sinner deserving of eternal pain and suffering in the lake of fire and it is only through taking your life from satan and giving it to Jesus that you are going to escape that which you deserve."?

Let's start by looking at Matthew 10:24&25:

24 The disciple is not above his Master, nor the servant above his Lord. 25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his Master, and the servant as his Lord. If they have called the Master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of His household?

The disciple, is, in the Greek, mathetes, pronounced math-ay-tes' it means pupil, one who is learning. Is not above his Master, Master is didaskalos, pronounced did-as'-kal-os and means simply master. nor the servant above his Lord servant is doulos, pronounced doo'-los and means a slave literal or figurative, involuntary or voluntary. While Lord is kurios, pronounced koo'-ree-os which means supreme in authority, i.e. (as noun) controller; by implication, Master (as a respectful title):-- God, Lord, master, Sir.

So you see, when you are introducing your friend to Jesus, do not make the mistake of letting him think, for even a minute, that he is equal to Jesus, that he is Jesus' peer, or that he will be any more than a bond servant of the Lord. But let us go on, for in John 15:18 we read If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you. Going back to Matthew 10:25 we see that " It is enough for the disciple that he be as his Master, and the servant as his Lord. If they have called the Master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of His household?" We, who give our lives to the Lord are not going to be treated better than He was. We must expect to be treated as the Lord was treated.

When we read the second half of verse 25, "If they have called the Master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of His household?", We can see that we can expect to be treated worse than Jesus was treated.

Scripture doesn't teach us that once we give our lives to Christ we can sit down, relax and have everything be hunky dory. After all, one of the greatest accusations against Christians is that of hypocrite. Think for a moment. After you tell Sam how great his life will be after becoming a Christian, he goes to church with you and hears prayer request after prayer request to heal this one of cancer and that one of heart disease, help this on find a job and that one not lose his or her house, give this family comfort after the loss of their youngest son. You tell Sam that "after he accepts Jesus into his heart, all his problems will disappear" and all he hears in the prayer request time is request after request for help from misery, probably more than he is currently suffering.

Be truthful with Sam. Tell him that once he gives his life to Christ, once he yanks it out of the control of the devil and gives it voluntarily to the Lord God of Creation, he can expect that things in his life may get even more difficult, that his family may abandon him, that his friends may ridicule him, and that he may find that his change in behavior may even cost him his job. It did mine. But that after this life, he will not go to the lake of fire, but instead will become a joint heir with Christ, an adopted son of God almighty, a prince in heaven. That while he may have even more tribulation here on earth, his eternity will be that of bliss.

Now before moving on, let us look at a verse, John 13:13: Ye call Me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for I AM. And Luke 6:46 And why call ye Me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

The word of God is very clear. When we leave satan and give our lives to Christ, we are not guaranteed a live of ease, of comfort, of wealth, health and happiness on this earth, we are guaranteed, instead, a life of difficulty of trials and tribulations, but eternal bliss the micro second we leave this life.

In closing part two, let us look at two more verses:
Matthew 16:24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me." and Matthew 10:38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.

Notice the command is to take up our cross and follow in the footsteps of the Lord, not get a new car and fancy home, a big boat, better job and our neighbor's wife, it is "he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me."

In part three we are going to look at the law and how it is it that causes us to know sin and our need of a Savior.

In part four we will look at the only man in the Bible that we absolutely know beyond a shadow of a doubt was Born Again, the only man God told that "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise." We will look at what he did and what he suffered, for he received no health, no wealth, no lessening of his pain and suffering. What he did receive was forgiveness and life everlasting with the Lord.

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#1. To: Redleghunter, (#0)

Part two of four.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-02   19:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BobCeleste (#1)

Thank you. Have been in the field training a unit. Will get to this tomorrow.

God Bless.

"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools " (Romans 1:21-22)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-04   0:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: redleghunter (#2)

Have been in the field training a unit.

Yes, on both sides, trained as well as training.

In 83 I was with 10th, in 87(?) they did something that kept me awake praying that I had taught them right, it turned out they were fine and everything went exactly as my teaching had prepared them for.

I only wish that I had been a much better Christian at the time.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-04   10:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BobCeleste (#1)

"Notice the command is to take up our cross and follow in the footsteps of the Lord, not get a new car and fancy home, a big boat, better job and our neighbor's wife, it is "he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me." '

Are you saying that a believer will lose their salvation if they don't do good works?

wmfights  posted on  2015-02-04   11:30:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BobCeleste (#0)

Be truthful with Sam. Tell him that once he gives his life to Christ, once he yanks it out of the control of the devil and gives it voluntarily to the Lord God of Creation, he can expect that things in his life may get even more difficult, that his family may abandon him, that his friends may ridicule him, and that he may find that his change in behavior may even cost him his job. It did mine. But that after this life, he will not go to the lake of fire, but instead will become a joint heir with Christ, an adopted son of God almighty, a prince in heaven. That while he may have even more tribulation here on earth, his eternity will be that of bliss.

Now before moving on, let us look at a verse, John 13:13: Ye call Me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for I AM. And Luke 6:46 And why call ye Me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

The word of God is very clear. When we leave satan and give our lives to Christ, we are not guaranteed a live of ease, of comfort, of wealth, health and happiness on this earth, we are guaranteed, instead, a life of difficulty of trials and tribulations, but eternal bliss the micro second we leave this life.

Bob by God's Grace wonderfully and clearly written.

On the quoted above? Indeed discipleship is not "easy believism" no easy living. We will bear our crosses each according to His Will.

"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools " (Romans 1:21-22)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-04   20:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: wmfights, BobCeleste (#4)

Welcome to LF.

I don't think Bob is saying that. But as followers of Christ to expect and receive joyfully our trials.

Metal forged is made stronger.

"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools " (Romans 1:21-22)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-04   20:40:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: wmfights (#4)

Are you saying that a believer will lose their salvation if they don't do good works?

Nope, not at all. I am trying to get folks to face up to the fact that they, while they may call themselves a Christian, are not.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-05   11:20:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: redleghunter (#5)

Bob by God's Grace wonderfully and clearly written.

Thank you,

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-05   11:24:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter (#6)

Metal forged is made stronger.

how very, very true. We need to talk about the two and a half days of the pain of crucifixion. It is going to be part of part four, but, I want to tell as many as possible before it goes up in print, I may do this one as a you tube as well.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-05   11:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BobCeleste (#7)

Are you saying that a believer will lose their salvation if they don't do good works?

Nope, not at all. I am trying to get folks to face up to the fact that they, while they may call themselves a Christian, are not.

I agree with you, but have often run into the argument that you have to do good works to be saved, and to continue to be saved. The good works we do after being saved are a reflection of GOD in us.

Eph. 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

Ir seems to me that if we view works as an essential part of being saved we make GOD a debtor, since he owes us salvation for all the good things we do.

wmfights  posted on  2015-02-05   18:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BobCeleste (#3)

I only wish that I had been a much better Christian

No such thing, dude.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2015-02-05   19:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: wmfights (#10)

Good works are a sign of salvation, it is only through Christ that we are saved.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-05   22:18:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: BobCeleste (#12)

Good works are a sign of salvation, it is only through Christ that we are saved.

I think you are absolutely right.

However, I would add that GOD already has a plan for the newly saved believer and if this believer doesn't manifest works that we see it doesn't mean this believer isn't saved. The church I'm a member of supports missionaries in closed countries. These individuals are the best of us and rightly deserve all the crowns Jesus Christ will bestow on them. However, not everyone can do what they do and like most churches we have our fair share of members that overly consume resources and pastor's time. I believe that those in the latter group are saved as well even though we don't see a lot of good works from them.

wmfights  posted on  2015-02-05   23:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: wmfights (#13)

However, I would add that GOD already has a plan for the newly saved believer and if this believer doesn't manifest works that we see it doesn't mean this believer isn't saved. ... However, not everyone can do what they do and like most churches we have our fair share of members that overly consume resources and pastor's time. I believe that those in the latter group are saved as well even though we don't see a lot of good works from them.

If they have truly given their lives to Christ, as did the thief on the cross, than they are saved, if they didn't then they are not saved. But as for good works, Christ, I believe, is the smartest of generals, He could easily be holding some back to fight at a later time.

Once truly saved, always saved, but: Not every one that saith unto Me, "Lord, Lord", shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?" And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity.

Waiting in the wings, held in reserve, may very well be God's will for some. Ours is not to necessarily understand the orders, it is our responsibility to obey God's orders.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-02-06   10:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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