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Reports say the daughter or the late Houston was only breathing with the help of the machine on Sunday after she was found unresponsive on Saturday at about 10:25 a.m. On Saturday morning, Roswell, Ga., police responded to a 911 call and arrived at Bobbi Kristina's home. Officer Lisa Holland said in a statement that responding officers immediately used life-saving measures. "Her husband and a friend located her in a bathtub this morning and she was unresponsive. He started CPR and a police officer took over life-saving measures until an ambulance arrived. She was transported to the hospital. Please keep her and the family in your thoughts and prayers." Brown, 21, was alive when taken to North Fulton Hospital, where she has since been stabilized. Local police are reportedly sweeping the house for drugs after having secured a search warrant. "We are interviewing all the family members and friends that were at the house at the time," Holland confirmed at a press conference. "We don't know that if it was an accident or what this could be." Brown's mother, Houston, died of accidental drowning on Feb. 11, 2012. Heart disease and the use of cocaine were also listed in the coroner’s report. Brown's incident comes two weeks after Lifetime aired the Angela Bassett- directed biopic, “Whitney.” Last year, Brown launched a vitriolic, obscenity-laced Twitter rant against Angela Bassett, who had decided not to include her in the movie. Brown later apologized for the rant. Bobby Brown, who was not in Atlanta at the time, immediately flew to his daughter’s bedside. Poster Comment:       All right, all you pot smoking, coke snorting, heroin shooting libertarians….line up here and tell me again why all drugs should be legalized. Brush up on your talking points and with a refreshed presentation as to why the current policies regarding drugs are harmful to individuals, families, and society as a whole while you continue to strongly oppose current drug laws and policies. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 34. #2. To: Gatlin (#0) (Edited) All right, all you pot smoking, coke snorting, heroin shooting libertarians….line up here and tell me again why all drugs should be legalized. What a disgusting POS you are dancing on a comatose woman just to push your drug war agenda. Deckard  posted on  2015-02-02   10:55:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Deckard (#2) You're right---Gatlin, Palmdale, Yukon, SOD and GrandIsland are hysterical since 4 states legalized pot. They sure do suck wanting to go back to prohibition and throw everybody in jail as they corruptly build a porker pig prison empire rooted in barbarism and wholesale rights violations. Their definition of a ''criminal'' --anybody who is not a porker pig cop or immediate family member of a law enforcement hog / sow family litter in their filthy sty! TEA Party Reveler  posted on  2015-02-02   16:18:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: TEA Party Reveler (#8) You're right---Gatlin, Palmdale, Yukon, SOD and GrandIsland are hysterical since 4 states legalized pot. They sure do suck wanting to go back to prohibition and throw everybody in jail as they corruptly build a porker pig prison empire rooted in barbarism and wholesale rights violations. I've never had a problem with marihuana being legal. It's a waste of LE time. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-02   16:48:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: GrandIsland (#13) (Edited) I've never had a problem with marihuana being legal. It's a waste of LE time. I agree with you on this one. Tweakers' teeth fall out in a couple of years, and they're dead soon after that. Coke-heads blow their minds out quickly and fall to pieces. Heroin users are the walking dead. But pot smokers live just about as long as cigarette smokers...and that's just about as long as everybody else. Some keep at it for life, and they're no different from folks with a drinking habit, really. Most of us know this, either because we know or are related to somebody who tokes, or because we're in some line of work (like yours) that puts us in contact. Pot ain't a good thing. But it doesn't end civilization either. Meth and coke end lives pretty quickly. Opiates end whole civilizations: look at the wreck they made of China. There's a difference, there's a reasonable line. Alcohol and tobacco and pot fall on one side of that line, and the other drugs fall on the other side of it. I doubt that people using pot will make coke the new pot, by the simple fact that pot's already illegal, millions use it, and they don't go on to cocaine - because even people doing illegal things know there's a line there. It's like speeding. When the sign says 65, I do 70 or 71. When I see the cop, I take my foot off the gas and coast down towards 65. Nobody ever has stopped me, and I doubt anybody ever will. It's over the line, a little bit, but it's not far enough over the line for anybody but Barney Fife to bother with (and I've never run into him). But if I were doing 95 down the road, the cops ought to stop me, because 95 is ridiculous anywhere in Connecticut. Same thing with pot. Tobacco and alcohol are this side of the line, but people don't get high on tobacco. Alcohol and pot will stone you good: go driving and you're a menace. But at home? Honestly, who cares? You don't. I don't. Tobacco is going to cause the same health problems as pot, and it's legal. Coke and meth and opiates: they make zombies, fast, and often violent or insane ones. Bath salts make people eat their buddies' face. Nobody ever did that on pot. Pot should be "the line". That will legalize a lot of illegal behavior without really making any difference. We can't legalize the other stuff, because it takes people's minds from the first use and does a lot worse with those minds than alcohol or pot does. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-02-02   20:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: Vicomte13 (#20) I doubt that people using pot will make coke the new pot, The next stop is wax and butane hash oil. Palmdale  posted on  2015-02-02   20:44:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: Palmdale (#21) The next stop is wax and butane hash oil. Wax? I've never heard of "butane hash oil". Are they stronger than pot? How MUCH stronger? Or are they just a form of pot, boosted a little, like the difference between wine coolers and wine? Serious question. The line drawing exercise is not a matter of allowing "a little more harm", then "a little more", to slowly boil the frog. It's an exercise in recognizing differences in kind. Tobacco and pot do the same thing to the lungs: tar, soot, cancer risk, etc. Pot plays with the 'nads also, which isn't good, but it doesn't play with 'em ENOUGH to cut off the fertility of potheads (and if it DID, do I care? No. That seems a positive side effect, actually.) Whiskey and pot do about the same thing to the mind - it's on the same order of magnitude. So, pot is sort of like smoking a stiff double shot of vodka. If people smoke more and more and more pot, they settle into a listless, stoned state, just like alcohol (except that alcohol ALSO triggers some people to behave like crack addicts: wild and violent. Pot doesn't have that effect anything to the degree that alcohol does). Alcohol is a pretty strong drug, taken in quantity. Pot is on a par. Coke and Meth and Acid and Opiates are not the difference between wine coolers and wine, or even wine and whiskey. One use of alcohol, or pot, or tobacco, never made anybody lose his mind forever. Excessive alcohol - huge amounts - on the first use may have killed some kids from alcohol poisoning, but nobody ever died from smoking a pack of cigarettes, and I doubt that there is anything like the mortality rate for heavy single-use pot consumption as alcohol. They're still in the same ballpark. Cocaine, Crystal Meth, LSD and Opiates are on another continent. I've never heard of wax; butane hash oil sounds like what converts pot into hashish. Hashish drove assassins, so if that's what we're talking about, that seems to have a much more violence inducing tendency that plain pot. That may well be a good reason to put it across the line. And of course people are already smoking pot by the millions, without turning into assassins, and without generating a huge demand for these other things (anything like the demand for pot - after all, I've never heard of "wax" at all). This isn't a slippery slope. There's no slope here. It's a step function. Alcohol and tobacco and pot are on one step. Coke and Meth are on another step with a big gap. We should draw the line in a rational place. Putting pot on that other step isn't rational. It's excessive and bespeaks a desire to dominate others by force of will for no very good reason. Such a spirit does not belong in our laws. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-02-02   20:58:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: Vicomte13 (#25) I've never heard of wax; butane hash oil sounds like what converts pot into hashish. Hashish drove assassins, so if that's what we're talking about, that seems to have a much more violence inducing tendency that plain pot. That may well be a good reason to put it across the line. Don't let the spinster shake you up too much with her lurid tales of butane, the new gateway drug. You probably heard back in the Seventies or Eighties of hash. Then there was something called hash oil which was like a nectar of potent oils from pot plant leaves, a thick liquid like honey. Sometimes this was collected by hand. In some countries, they would run naked through the pot fields and then scrape it off their bodies. The perspiration would keep the hash oil from coagulating on the skin and could be collected. Imagine smoking some hash oil that has a substantial amount of human sweat in it. Gross. Well, some lively chem students apparently discovered that they could treat large batches of low-grade pot (ditch weed basically) by packing it into large pipes or even barrel sized containers and then rapidly flushing a large amount of butane through the packed mass (packed so as to extract maximum effectiveness of the butane agent). As a result, they could easily separate the oil from the detritus. Supposedly that was only profitable when the pot prices were really high because the price of butane is also high and attracts attention if you buy it by the truckload for your little organic radish farm. The modern hash oil is more potent mostly because of the type of medicinal marijuana plants they use now are much much higher quality to begin with so the hash oil they make from it is like moonshine (to compare to alcohol). A lot of high-THC products out there and a lot of people with chemistry backgrounds are doing some very creative stuff with it, judging by what I've read anyway. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-02   23:10:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: TooConservative (#32) Don't let the spinster shake you up too much with her lurid tales of butane, the new gateway drug. You probably heard back in the Seventies or Eighties of hash. Then there was something called hash oil which was like a nectar of potent oils from pot plant leaves, a thick liquid like honey. Sometimes this was collected by hand. In some countries, they would run naked through the pot fields and then scrape it off their bodies. The perspiration would keep the hash oil from coagulating on the skin and could be collected. Imagine smoking some hash oil that has a substantial amount of human sweat in it. Gross. Well, some lively chem students apparently discovered that they could treat large batches of low-grade pot (ditch weed basically) by packing it into large pipes or even barrel sized containers and then rapidly flushing a large amount of butane through the packed mass (packed so as to extract maximum effectiveness of the butane agent). As a result, they could easily separate the oil from the detritus. Supposedly that was only profitable when the pot prices were really high because the price of butane is also high and attracts attention if you buy it by the truckload for your little organic radish farm. The modern hash oil is more potent mostly because of the type of medicinal marijuana plants they use now are much much higher quality to begin with so the hash oil they make from it is like moonshine (to compare to alcohol). A lot of high-THC products out there and a lot of people with chemistry backgrounds are doing some very creative stuff with it, judging by what I've read anyway. Thanks for that information. I don't like the feel of being drunk. Really wouldn't like anything stronger than that. Pot is one of those things that, from observation of people over a lifetime, seems to be like whiskey or vodka: strong, addictive, and likely to dull the person. I suppose that this hash oil turns pot into the equivalent of Everclear versus whiskey. I guess the last thing I'll say about it is that all of this desire to use drugs to get high must be indicative of an incredible amount of suffering, depression and desperation in the population. The people I knew who turned into potheads were all folks who were at the margins in some way, socially maladroit. And while it is true that potheads seem to have girlfriends, I've noticed that their girlfriends are potheads. My way of addressing the drug problem would be to address the underlying causes of human suffering. Reduce THAT, and you'll reduce the flight to drugs for a large number of people. They self-medicate, because it numbs them to the bad. I don't hate them for it, they do not enrage me because they are breaking some arbitrary rule. I pity them. I don't trust or like very much the people who get self-righteous in their desire to CRUSH drug users. These people are usually themselves Sowers of Pain, and their agenda is rarely for the GOOD of the drug users. Generally, it's out of anger at having had their authority defied by someone breaking their rules. There's a cardinal difference between the two. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-02-03   8:36:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: Vicomte13 (#33) I guess the last thing I'll say about it is that all of this desire to use drugs to get high must be indicative of an incredible amount of suffering, depression and desperation in the population. The people I knew who turned into potheads were all folks who were at the margins in some way, socially maladroit. And while it is true that potheads seem to have girlfriends, I've noticed that their girlfriends are potheads. My way of addressing the drug problem would be to address the underlying causes of human suffering. Reduce THAT, and you'll reduce the flight to drugs for a large number of people. They self-medicate, because it numbs them to the bad. I don't hate them for it, they do not enrage me because they are breaking some arbitrary rule. I pity them. I don't trust or like very much the people who get self-righteous in their desire to CRUSH drug users. These people are usually themselves Sowers of Pain, and their agenda is rarely for the GOOD of the drug users. Generally, it's out of anger at having had their authority defied by someone breaking their rules. There's a cardinal difference between the two. I can't disagree much with anything you wrote here. No matter how much hysteria Palmdale tries to generate over hash-oil-is-the-new-heroin, it just is not true. Heroin will kill you and kill you fast. Pot and its derivatives don't. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-03   8:53:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 34.         There are no replies to Comment # 34. End Trace Mode for Comment # 34. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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