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Title: For Police: Postal Worker Accidentally Makes Video on How Not To Shoot Dogs
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URL Source: http://www.activistpost.com/2015/01 ... ostal-worker-accidentally.html
Published: Jan 28, 2015
Author: Amanda Warren
Post Date: 2015-02-02 09:45:51 by Deckard
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Views: 23783
Comments: 66
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An Australian motovlogger shoots dogs - with a DriftHD 1080P camera. His other armament? Treats.
This postal worker comes across friendly dogs, but also plenty of vicious dogs who will bite him if they get a chance. And sometimes, those dogs get loose. He nonchalantly points to a dog who bit him in the past. He wants people to know that "posties" love dogs. What would he think of our American police state that trains officers to shoot any kind of breed? Without prompting.
But police officers always voice the fear of getting bit. This fear is upheld in the highest honor to them. "They were not bit because of their quick action. Basically, that was the end of the story." They shoot dogs before there would even be a remote possibility. It's the end of every senselessly bloody story where the owner is left to clean the mess; left with the bill and a ticket. "All I have to say is that I feel they're a threat."
Unfortunately, witnesses often report the dog's friendly demeanor, but officers will falsify reports or say "there was a look in his eye." They offer absurd, irrational responses. They intrude on someone's property and then claim the dog was "aggressing" them, when it barks or approaches. They cry "Pitbull!" when it's not, nor is that a cause for execution. Let's not forget that killing animals for no cause is a hallmark of psychopaths.
But regular, rational people cannot fathom this, so they might go along with blaming the owners. They might claim there is a lack of proper training, that officers should be encouraged to use non-lethal methods. They already can but they don't. "If they hesitate it could be their own lives," people have said. To date, no officers have been killed by dogs. But one recently coaxed a friendly dog over to him in order to kill it. People need to know that none of these things account for police killing tiny breeds, chained or tied dogs, cats, kittens, squirrels, baby deer, docile cows, or a parakeet - and of course, innocent people. Nor does it account for using live, injured animals for target practice.
Mind acrobatics must be performed to justify the widespread killing of domestic companions when you consider that there has not been a movement on the part of postal workers and all forms of delivery people to be allowed to shoot animals that they come into personal contact with on a daily basis. Nor would society be too keen on arming them for indiscriminate blasting or cutting - not even for fear's sake.
One guy wants to show you how to get the job done. Please also see The Free Thought Project's report on the topic, where I saw this video first.
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#1. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#0)
Not just psychopaths. I've read before that dogs are shot at much higher rates by physically inadequate male cops and female cops in general. And that the media does everything it can to keep this fact from the public. Being a cop is a job for a large physically capable man of even emotional disposition. No matter what the feminists and queer studies academics say.
And those are the people at the very bottom of the PC Hiring List.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Actually, we do know what police forces do favor in hiring now. Combat vets. They exclude people with IQs over 100. Also anyone with much education. They exclude people with a strong personal moral code like Christianity that might override commands given by superiors, as in being ordered to beat an irascible old guy in a wheelchair in Texas (an actual case a fine Christian officer was dismissed over). So those will be your core force. Toss in a bunch of affirmative action hires including gays and women who rarely top the physical fitness and aptitude lists. And you have a modern militarized police force that tasers old people and shoots dogs. A lot of it comes from these private police training groups. They have spread a lot of poisonous ideas and attitudes to police across the country.
You haven't been keeping any secrets from us, have you?
I can explain the hiring practices of NYS, if you are interested.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I was describing the hiring from some articles we had about changes in police hiring and retention over at LP. They covered the whole country, not one locale or state.
In my opinion, the biggest flaw in hiring (that I'm familiar with) is picking candidates based on highest civil service test scores and not common sense. Some of the worst officers I've ever trained were college grads.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
My guess is that NYS actually has fewer problems this way than some of the deep South states.
I'm not sure about the south. I know this, the two highest state training standards belong to the two most libtard states, California and New York State. Training and common sense are essential in the making of a well rounded officer. Many departments lack in training because they cut their budgets in that area. Southern states are always trying to get already trained NYS officers to move south and work for them.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Of course. And in rural areas, you'll see the counties pay for training sheriffs and deputies who, if they're any good, promptly get stolen away for more money by higher paying municipal PDs. It drives rural commissioners and little town boards crazy as they pay for one deputy after the next to get job training to go work somewhere else. Finally they seem to find some slug that no one else would really want and they actually stick around to work the job. That undoubtedly makes the town board and the sheriff feel real good about the process, eh? You also see the towns of 10,000-20,000 sharpshoot the best teachers out of the small surrounding rural schools. It's not resented exactly but it doesn't go unnoticed. I'm just saying this problem of cross-recruiting is hardly unique to NYS or to police.
I agree. Many officers I trained jumped ship for a lateral transfer for higher pay. Then the department is short staffed and they compromise on who's next on the list. His replacement... Mediocre at best I looked at it differently. I felt I owed the department that took a chance on me (they could have hired one of the other two civil service list candidates) my allegiance. So I stayed and retired there even though I was offered more money many times during my 20.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Sometimes a department gets lucky and makes good on the investment they made in a new hire. Often because they like the area or have relatives or other connections nearby.
Excuse me? I really don't think you intended to imply that combat vets are stupid or have low IQ's,but you need to clarify that statement.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Sneaky Pete Holsters Oh,yeah,but that ain't one of them. Nobody has ever accused me of knowing how to make money.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Sneaky Pete Holsters Oh,yeah,but that ain't one of them. Nobody has ever accused me of knowing how to make money. Or truthfully,even caring.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Combat vets. They exclude people with IQs over 100. Also anyone with much
education. www.police-
association.or...es/information_paper.html March 18, 2004
SUBJECT: Studies, Case Law, Quotes, Standards and Trends in Support of a
College Education for Police Officers 1. Purpose. Provide
information regarding the need to require college education for police
applicants. 2. Discussion. Some 68 years ago Chief August Vollmer,
the Dean of American Policing, called for mandatory college education for
police officers. As society has become more complex, basic police
qualifications have not maintained the same pace. If police officers are to be
considered a profession in their own right, then a college education, the
hallmark of a profession, must be mandated to better serve society. Departments
requiring college degrees for officers have increased - not decreased -
minority hiring. Establishing an associate’s degree requirement is a good start
towards ultimately achieving the recommendation of several national commissions
and the Federal Courts of a bachelor’s degree standard. 3. Facts.
a. Minorities. The National Association for the Advancement of
Colored People (NAACP) has recommended higher education for police officers as
a means of reducing police abuse of power against minorities. (NAACP/Harvard
Study) The former Director of The National Institute of Justice, Jeremy
Travis, found that the level of education for African-American police officers
was similar to that of white officers. In 1978 Patrick Murphy, then
Director of Public Safety in Washington, DC, found that African-American police
officers had more education than their white counterparts. This is true for
most of the nation. In Baltimore, over twenty years ago, when a four-year
degree entrance position (called a police agent) was established, the number of
applicants from the African-American community actually increased. This also
has been true for many departments when establishing a four-year degree
requirement. b. Performance. A recent large-scale study of California
police officers found that, “Officers with fewer college units tended to have
significantly more complaints than officers with a higher number of units.”
(Wilson, Journal of California Law Enforcement, V33, N4, 1999) In the so-
called “Rampart Division Scandal” of the Los Angeles Police Department
(murdering suspects, planting evidence, perjury, etc.) only one of the many
involved officers was a college graduate, in spite of a high percentage of
college graduate officers overall in the Department. (Unpublished study by
Dennis Porter, Los Angeles, 1999) The Blue Ribbon Commission in Chicago
recommended that officers have bachelor’s degrees as a move to reduce
corruption. (Report of the Commission on Integrity, Report to Mayor Daly, 1997)
A Rand study determined that college grads had only an 8% civilian
complaint rate compared to a 24% rate for non-college grads. Of the NYCPD
officers arrested for corrupt acts from 1993 to 1997, 86% would not have been
hired had an associate’s degree been required. (Gerald W. Lynch, President of
John Jay College of Criminal Justice, USA Today, August 6, 1997) Another study
found that in a midwestern city, officers without a college education accounted
for 42% of the total founded complaints while only accounting for 29% of the
total officer population. (American Journal of Police, V11, N2, 1992) In
Dade County, Florida research found that a police officer with a four-year
degree had a 73% chance of superior performance, 65% if he or she possessed a
two-year degree and a 50 % chance if he or she had a high school diploma.
(Journal of Police Science and Administration, V5, N1, March 1977) A study
of 118 nonsupervisory patrol officers from Lincoln, Nebraska found that higher
education was associated with less dogmatic beliefs (more open-mindedness) and
better patrol performance. (Journal of Police Science and Administration, V6,
N3, September 1978) c. Standards/Trends. At least fifty percent
of Rhode Island’s cities and towns now require police applicants to have at
least 60 college credits. (RISP website) Tulsa, Oklahoma; Charleston, South
Carolina; Smithfield, Rhode Island and over 30 other local departments require
a four-year degree for entering officers. They are maintaining or increasing
their numbers of minority officers. State Police Agencies that require four-
year degrees include New Jersey, Illinois and the North Dakota Highway Patrol.
The International Association of Directors of Law Enforcement Standards and
Training (IADLEST) and The Police Executive Research Forum (PERF) have passed
resolutions in favor of the four-year degree requirement. Of the 678,000
police officers in the country, over 153,000 (22.6%) possess four-year degrees
and the number had been growing by 2% per year. A study by Craig Campbell
indicates the number is now declining because LEAP educated officers (a tuition
reimbursement program in the 1970’s) are retiring and are being replaced with
new officers without college. The number of police departments requiring
some college for entering officers increased by over 100% from 1990 to 1997,
from 14% to 32%. Between 1990 and 2000 the number of departments requiring
associate’s degrees increased by 100% and the number of departments requiring
bachelor’s degrees also increased 100%. (Local Police Departments 1997, 2000
U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics) Minnesota requires all police applicants
to possess a two-year degree. In Davis v. Dallas, a 1984 federal court
case, college education was judged to be a Bona Fide Occupational Qualification
(BFOQ).
http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?
id=95836
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and
private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is
the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the
same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
I vaguely remember that,or a case very similar. It was reported that the applicant was turned down because he was "too smart to be a cop".
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
No, I'm not kidding. They indicated that many PDs rejected anyone with an IQ as high as 110. Average intelligence or lower only. And no one with a strongly formed moral character that might lead them to act independently. Meaning pretty much devout Christians of any flavor.
The studies I am talking about were done since then and reflected changes in hiring policy mostly implemented from 2006 onward. Which is around the time that PDs started getting out of control with militarization. I think it is the various private police training companies and suppliers that have promoted this new policing style we have now.
Project much?
No, I'm not kidding. They indicated that many PDs rejected anyone with an IQ as high as 110. Average intelligence or lower only. Let's clarify,ok? You are still making the claim that combat veterans have below normal IQ's?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You have trouble grasping this apparently. No. I never said that at all. I'm saying that many PDs have switched to a policy by which they prefer to hire vets but they do not hire any with an IQ above 100 as a matter of policy. If you're a dumb vet (like a 90 IQ), you're in. If you're an average vet (100 IQ), you're in. If you're a smart vet (IQ 110+), hit the road 'cause they don't want you. Also, serious Christians need not apply. I'm rather surprised you never read those threads over at LP. We had a number of them talking about this policy change and that it was happening all around the country. I'm pretty sure these pieces were written at the end of the Bush years, before Obama came to power. For that matter, they were written before LP started having so many anti-cop articles posted every day.
I did read several of them,but I never once read one where someone stated that combat vets have low IQ's,which is exactly what you wrote. I didn't think you meant to express it that way and stated as much,so I asked you twice what your intent was. And got attitude in return.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and
private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is
the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the
same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
Maybe you wouldn't be so
bitchy if you could find a man.
Because I did not say that at all. Read it again and show me where I said that.
You still can't see how that reads?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Of
course, that's kind of a given.
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and
private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is
the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the
same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
Pete, what TC is trying to say is this.... 1) LE perfers to hire combat vets (this is true) 2) LE likes middle to low IQ combat vets for hire (this I disagree with) 3) he is not saying all combat vets are low IQ... he's just claiming that LE won't hire the high IQ combat vets... which means TC admits some vets have high IQ's. Now... LE likes hiring combat vets because your government has incentives for hiring them. The government has had programs in the past where they pay the salary for the first 3 years if an agency hires military personnel that was in a war zone. I have never seen any agency test for IQ.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
You seem determined to read it in a way that is derogatory. First and foremost they want vets. Period, full stop. But not if they are above average IQ. Or highly educated. Especially not if they are committed serious Christians. I don't know how many times or how many ways I can say it.
And I say you're a sad little Freeper disruptor who can't get a man.
If you repeat that lie ten times do you get a prize?
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
If the prize is no more of your queefing, sign me up.
Does that mean you didn't just pull that lie out of your posterior? Okay, what's the cite?
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
You are quite a helpless little thing, aren't you? Desperate to get a man to do anything for you, it seems. BTW, this was just the first search result I submitted so it didn't take any real talent to find this. You could have done it yourself in seconds if you weren't fixated on me like some crazy beyotch. DDG: police hiring discriminating against Christians and high IQ applicants Since you probably can't click a link unsupervised: Or are the courts saying that all vets are retarded, which is what I'm being accused of saying when all I did was report a ~5yo story accurately. Not that I am trolling for any apologies and don't want any. Also, for G.I., it seems someone is testing (or obtaining) IQ assessments on applicants. For vets, this might come from service records if the .gov is paying job training expenses and sharing info with the hiring PD.
Posting links that don't say what you falsely claimed. The favorite trick of cowardly liars everywhere. I'll give you another chance. Try not to punk out this time.
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
Maybe you'd be a less annoying woman if you spent more time with your vibrator. Seriously.
As predicted.
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
I know the Canaries with you as their Canaryette sidekick think you win every argument with annoying graphics but it isn't true. It just looks weak. I kicked your ass and you refuse to admit it. Fine, a garden-variety troll and contrarian. And a petty forum stalker to boot.
The national average IQ for police officers is 104, well above yours. Lemme know if you ever come up with that cite.
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
I think the objective for an ideal discussion is to learn and/or to teach. It's kinda like a market exchange insofar as each person does it for mutual gain. You should look upon a discussion as a pathway to intellectual growth and not as a way of "kicking someone's ass."
1999.....16 years ago when the 48 year old with a literature degree wasn't given an interview? You were critical of my post because it was from 2004. Hypocritical of you, wouldn't you say? Is name calling part of your game?
LOLAYDA.
That's yes in libertarianism, no doubt.
LOLAYDA
Seriously. It’s considered abusive behavior when you resort to such a disparaging and grossly undignified remark. You really should be above doing this. It reflects poorly on this forum for lurkers to see such a thing.
Some very witty riposte there, Fred. Ain't it rich?
He wasn't actually looking at it that way. He was caught lying and that's his way of trying to cover his humiliation. He isn't capable of honest discussion.
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
I should. But I'm not.
Nothing new?
That's blatantly obvious.
Nothing new.
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
Not at all. I posted the first four links of the first search I made, to accommodate your bitchy demand for cites to support my statement. Of those four results, 2 were ~15 years old and the remaining 2 were less than three years old. All supported exactly what I had said and affirmed that it was not only the establishing hiring practices of a number of PDs but that the courts supported this (anti-white) discrimination as lawful. In short, I knocked it out of the park on the first swing without trying. And you're trying to pretend it didn't happen. AGAIN. This is not the first time you've made a complete fool of yourself trying to hound me. It's not even the first time this week.
This one, politicalblindspot.com/po...with-high-iq-scores/...is a real joke.
Can you view videos these days, or are you still on dial up?
Ethel was a bit of a demon in her scooter and loved to charge around the nursing home, taking corners on one wheel and getting up to maximum speed on the long corridors Because the poor woman was one sandwich short of a picnic the other residents tolerated her and some of them actually joined in.. One day Ethel was speeding up one corridor when a door opened and Kooky Clarence stepped out with his arm outstretched. 'STOP!,' he shouted in a firm voice. 'Have you got a license for that thing?' Ethel fished around in her handbag and pulled out a Kit Kat wrapper and held it up to him. 'OK' he said and away Ethel sped down the hall. As she took the corner near the TV lounge on one wheel, weird Harold popped out in front of her and shouted 'STOP! Have you proof of insurance?' Ethel dug into her handbag, pulled out a drink coaster and held it up to him. Harold nodded and said ' On your way, Ma'am. ' As Ethel neared the final corridor, Creepy Fred stepped out in front of her, Butt-Naked, and holding his 'You-Know-What' in his hand. 'Oh, good grief,' yelled Ethel, 'Not that Damn Breathalyzer Test again.!!!'
Of those four results, 2 were ~15 years old and the remaining 2 were less than three years old. All supported exactly what I had said You shameless liar. NONE of them said that police departments exclude people with IQs over 100. 1st Link (copied from my earlier post): "The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average." 2nd Link: No IQ score listed at all. 3rd Link: No IQ score listed at all. 4th Link: "The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average." Not only do the links not contain your falsehood, two of them explicitly refute it. Or perhaps you're too dim to understand simple math. You not only lie, you do little else.
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
Worse. The New London event actually occurred 19 years ago, in 1996. The article was in 1999, three years later.
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
Could be. I've never experienced that part of the hiring phase or been that high up administratively. Closest I've got was being tasked to do background checks on candidates.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I have read other versions of this joke but your "Creepy Fred" version is the funniest.
You not only stalk me, you do little else. I'm not your search engine. Go screw yourself, you contrarian Harpy.
I wouldn't want a liar as a search engine.
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
Stone, will you tell this neglected woman to stop stalking me? Thanks.
Stone, will you ask this special snowflake not to cry when I reply to his posts to me? Thanks.
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts
LOL!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
officers will falsify reports or say "there was a look in his eye." They offer absurd, irrational responses. They intrude on someone's property and then claim the dog was "aggressing" them, when it barks or approaches. They cry "Pitbull!" when it's not, nor is that a cause for execution. Let's not forget that killing animals for no cause is a hallmark of psychopaths.
#2. To: TooConservative (#1)
Being a cop is a job for a large physically capable man of even emotional disposition.
#3. To: sneakypete, GrandIsland (#2)
#4. To: sneakypete (#2)
#5. To: TooConservative (#3)
#6. To: GrandIsland (#5)
#7. To: TooConservative (#6)
#8. To: GrandIsland (#7)
In my opinion, the biggest flaw in hiring (that I'm familiar with) is picking candidates based on highest civil service test scores and not common sense.
#9. To: TooConservative (#8)
#10. To: GrandIsland (#9)
Southern states are always trying to get already trained NYS officers to move south and work for them.
#11. To: TooConservative (#10)
Of course. And in rural areas, you'll see the counties pay for training sheriffs and deputies who, if they're any good, promptly get stolen away for more money
#12. To: GrandIsland (#11)
I looked at it differently. I felt I owed the department that took a chance on me (they could have hired one of the other two civil service list candidates) my allegiance. So I stayed and retired there even though I was offered more money many times during my 20.
#13. To: TooConservative (#3)
Combat vets. They exclude people with IQs over 100.
#14. To: TooConservative (#4)
You haven't been keeping any secrets from us, have you?
#15. To: TooConservative (#4)
You haven't been keeping any secrets from us, have you?
#16. To: TooConservative, sneakypete, GrandIsland (#3)
Actually, we do know what police forces do favor in hiring now.
#17. To: sneakypete, TooConservative (#13)
Excuse me?
There was an incident in the city
of New London, Connecticut, 19 years ago, where an applicant with an IQ
equivalent to 125 was turned down because the the department figured he would
get bored with police work. However, the very same article that reported the
New London incident noted that the average IQ score nationally for
police is about 104.
#18. To: Palmdale (#17)
There was an incident in the city of New London, Connecticut, 19 years ago, where an applicant with an IQ equivalent to 125 was turned down because the the department figured he would get bored with police work.
#19. To: sneakypete (#13)
Combat vets. They exclude people with IQs over 100.
#20. To: Otter (#16)
#21. To: Palmdale (#17)
He's lying. He does that a lot.
#22. To: TooConservative (#19)
Combat vets. They exclude people with IQs over 100.
#23. To: sneakypete (#22)
You are still making the claim that combat veterans have below normal IQ's?
#24. To: TooConservative (#23)
I'm rather surprised you never read those threads over at LP. We had a number of them talking about this policy change and that it was happening all around the country. I'm pretty sure these pieces were written at the end of the Bush years, before Obama came to power.
#25. To: TooConservative (#23)
I'm saying that many PDs have switched to a policy by which they
prefer to hire vets but they do not hire any with an IQ above 100 as a matter
of policy.
#26. To: Palmdale (#25)
#27. To: sneakypete (#24)
I did read several of them,but I never once read one where someone stated that combat vets have low IQ's,which is exactly what you wrote.
Combat vets. They exclude people with IQs over 100. Also anyone with much education. They exclude people with a strong personal moral code like Christianity that might override commands given by superiors, as in being ordered to beat an irascible old guy in a wheelchair in Texas (an actual case a fine Christian officer was dismissed over).
#28. To: TooConservative (#27)
Combat vets. They exclude people with IQs over 100.
#29. To: TooConservative (#27)
They exclude people with IQs over 100.
#30. To: sneakypete (#28)
You still can't see how that reads?
#31. To: sneakypete (#28)
You still can't see how that reads?
#32. To: Palmdale (#25)
I say you're lying.
#33. To: TooConservative (#31)
(Edited)
But not if they are above average IQ.
#34. To: Palmdale (#33)
If you repeat that lie ten times to you get a prize?
#35. To: TooConservative (#34)
sign me up.
#36. To: Palmdale, also, sneakypete, GrandIsland (#35)
Okay, what's the cite?
Yes, you read those correctly: the courts say it's fine to discriminate against high IQ applicants. Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops - ABC News
Police Officially Refuse To Hire Applicants With High IQ ...
Judge Rules That Police Can Bar High I.Q. Scores
Too smart to be a good cop - Gene Expression
#37. To: TooConservative (#36)
"They exclude people with IQs over 100."
#38. To: Palmdale (#37)
#39. To: TooConservative (#38)
#40. To: Palmdale (#39)
#41. To: TooConservative (#40)
#42. To: TooConservative, Palmdale (#40)
I kicked your ass...
#43. To: TooConservative (#36)
nytimes.com/1999/09/09/nyregion/metro-news-briefs-con...
#44. To: Otter (#43)
Is name calling part of your game?
#45. To: TooConservative (#44)
#46. To: Otter (#45)
#47. To: TooConservative, Palmdale (#38)
Maybe you'd be a less annoying woman if you spent more time with your vibrator.
#48. To: Fred Mertz (#46)
#49. To: Gatlin (#42)
You should look upon a discussion as a pathway to intellectual growth and not as a way of "kicking someone's ass."
#50. To: Gatlin (#47)
You really should be above doing this.
#51. To: Palmdale (#49)
He was caught lying ...
#52. To: TooConservative (#50)
I should. But I'm not.
#53. To: Gatlin (#51)
Nothing new?
#54. To: Palmdale (#49)
He wasn't actually looking at it that way. He was caught lying and that's his way of trying to cover his humiliation.
#55. To: TooConservative (#54)
I posted the first four links
#56. To: Otter (#55)
#57. To: Fred Mertz (#46)
#58. To: TooConservative (#54)
(Edited)
I posted the first four links of the first search I made, to accommodate your bitchy demand for cites to support my statement.
#59. To: Otter (#43)
1999.....16 years ago when the 48 year old with a literature degree wasn't given an interview?
#60. To: TooConservative (#36)
Also, for G.I., it seems someone is testing (or obtaining) IQ assessments on applicants. For vets, this might come from service records if the .gov is paying job training expenses and sharing info with the hiring PD.
#61. To: Otter (#57)
Creepy Fred stepped out in front of her ...
#62. To: Palmdale (#58)
You not only lie, you do little else.
#63. To: TooConservative (#62)
I'm not your search engine.
#64. To: Palmdale, A K A Stone (#63)
#65. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone (#64)
#66. To: Otter, *Humor* (#57)
As Ethel neared the final corridor, Creepy Fred stepped out in front of her, Butt-Naked, and holding his 'You-Know-What' in his hand. 'Oh, good grief,' yelled Ethel, 'Not that Damn Breathalyzer Test again.!!!'
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