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Title: Beware of Woolly-Minded Attacks on the Fed
Source: WSJ
URL Source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/alan-s- ... -attacks-on-the-fed-1422401124
Published: Jan 27, 2015
Author: ALAN S. BLINDER
Post Date: 2015-01-31 19:56:42 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 15950
Comments: 46

Welcome to 2015. On the Chinese calendar, it will soon be the Year of the Sheep. On the financial calendar, it looks like the Year of the Fed. Let’s hope the Fed doesn’t get sheared.

As almost everyone knows, this year the Federal Reserve will start to “exit” from its hyper-expansionary monetary policies. But the Fed may also spend the year defending itself against a series of congressional attacks on its independence.

The barrage started on Jan. 12, when a seemingly innocuous provision was tucked into a piece of must-pass legislation, the Terrorism Risk Insurance Act, with no hearings, no congressional debate and, for the most part, no notice. The law now requires that the seven-member Federal Reserve Board include “at least 1 member with demonstrated primary experience working in or supervising community banks having less than $10,000,000,000 in total assets.’’

Now, there is nothing wrong with having a community banker on the Fed board; and President Obama ’s announced nominee, Allan Landon, seems well qualified. The problem is assigning board seats to specific constituencies. What about big bankers? Labor leaders? Home builders? Professors? Democrats? Republicans? As Fed ChairJanet Yellen explained at a congressional hearing in July, this could lead to “earmarking each seat for a particular kind of expertise.” Yes, the new law could Balkanize and politicize the Fed. For example, what will happen when Democrats realize that virtually all community bankers are Republicans?

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#1. To: All (#0)

Here’s what’s wrong with Rand Paul’s ‘Audit the Fed’ bill

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-31   20:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Gatlin (#0) (Edited)

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-31   20:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone, Devil Anse (#2)

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-31   20:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone, Devil Anse (#3)

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-31   20:40:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin (#4)

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-31   20:41:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone, Devil Anse (#4)

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-31   20:42:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative, Gatlin (#4)

Gatlin is posting syndicated WSJ content from behind their paywall.

Gatlin doesn't think the posting rules apply to him, but he is the first to rat out someone who makes a mistake.

Is it any wonder that he is despised by so many so many here?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-01-31   20:45:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#5) (Edited)

Only in scumbag Gatlin and other corrupted scums minds can transparency be veiwed as an 'attack'.

I spit on all who wish to fiscally create slaves out of me and my family.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-01-31   20:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#7)

Only in bizarro world, with sheep being the majority population, can an entity create money out of thin air, and insist on loaning it to us, because THEY say we need it, collect the vig on that created from nothing 'money', and balk at being transparent.

Gatlin is LFs leading bleater.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-01-31   20:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Gatlin, NWO stooge, Globalist Scum, Quantitative Weaseling (#6)

A pox on the FED, God bless America. Since the creation of the private FED in 1913, the US dollar has lost 97% of it's value.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-31   21:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative, Gatlin (#3)

"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-31   21:07:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#7)

To: TooConservative, Gatlin Gatlin is posting syndicated WSJ content from behind their paywall. Gatlin doesn't think the posting rules apply to him, but he is the first to rat out someone who makes a mistake.

Is it any wonder that he is despised by so many so many here?

I'm shocked....

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-01-31   21:09:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: hondo68, ignoramuses, economic dimwits, Ron Paul Tools (#10)

A pox on the FED, God bless America. Since the creation of the private FED in 1913, the US dollar has lost 97% of it's value.

Well “tutti trutti!”

In 1913 the average individual income was $800. In 2013 it was $26,364.

So the dollar lost 97% of its value while income increased 97% … Source.

The Fed has now been vaccinated against your pox. God Bless America!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-31   21:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Dead Culture Watch, Deckard (#12)

I'm shocked....

One of my all time favorite movies....

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-31   21:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Gatlin, fiat money, backed by, shuck 'n jive (#13)

In 1913 the average individual income was $800

And it was backed by something of real value, silver and gold. Your paper Obama dollars are backed by shuck 'n jive, and are almost as worthless as your globalist propaganda releases.

In God, and Ron Paul gold & silver dollars we trust.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-31   21:58:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: hondo68 (#15)

Didn't they confiscate all those Ron Paul gold coins and send the maker to prison on counterfeiting charges?

Ah, yes: Bernard von NotHaus

I didn't know he also founded the Free Marijuana Church of Honolulu as well. Convicted of counterfeiting in 2011 but has never been sentenced. His last sentencing hearing was in 11/2014. A very odd case.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-31   22:06:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: hondo68 (#15)

Ron Paul Coin Minter, Pot Priest, Faces 15 Years in Prison

"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-31   22:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Palmdale (#17)

Ron Paul Coin Minter, Pot Priest, Faces 15 Years in Prison

Not yet, it seems. As I mentioned, he was convicted over 3 years ago but has been free since with his last scheduled sentencing hearing set for December 2014. Seems a bit strange, maybe the feds know that it will eventually surface that they railroaded him. None of which will really count unless he serves time in a prison.

The case was pretty trumped up as counterfeiting cases go and the charges that he was counterfeiting to support terrorism were nothing more than a prosecutor's fantasy.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-31   22:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative (#16)

has never been sentenced. His last sentencing hearing was in 11/2014.

They're jealous because RP precious metal dollars have permanent value, while the US dollar is dropping like a stone.

Sentencing NotHaus would just make the government look even more crooked and vindictive.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-31   22:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: hondo68 (#15) (Edited)

In 1913 the average individual income was $800. In 2013 it was $26,364.
So the dollar lost 97% of its value while income increased 97% …
The Fed has now been vaccinated against your pox. God Bless America!

In 1913 the average individual income was $800
And it was backed by something of real value, silver and gold. Your paper Obama dollars are backed by shuck 'n jive, and are almost as worthless as your globalist propaganda release

American money is a pure fiat system. It is not backed by gold. But, gold is a fiat system itself. Gold only has value to humans just like American money.

I don’t have any paper Obama dollars. I only have United States dollars which is a Federal Reserve Note. What a person purchased with US$800 in 1913 could be purchased in2013 for US$18,824.81. Which means the person 2013 would use only 71.4% of their purchasing power. Damn….ain’t American great?!? Calculator.

Forget your Ron Paul gold & silver dollars in you want to preserve value, go for real estate. Link: Rich Buy Real Estate, Poor Want Gold

Just give it up.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-31   23:15:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#19)

...have permanent value,

If you want permanent value, then screw the Ron Paul Gold and Silver Dollars....go REAL ESTATE!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-31   23:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Gatlin (#21)

"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-31   23:31:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Palmdale (#22)

Now, that's FUNNY!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-31   23:32:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Gatlin (#21)

If you want permanent value, then screw the Ron Paul Gold and Silver Dollars....go REAL ESTATE!

Some Ferrari's are even better.

Ferrari sells for $27.5 million in Pebble Beach - Aug....

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Aug 18, 2013 · A 1967 Ferrari convertible sold for $27.5 million at an auction near Pebble Beach, Calif., the highest price ever paid for a Ferrari at auction.

Otter  posted on  2015-01-31   23:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TooConservative (#18)

Von NotHaus was now sentenced to six months of home detention, to run concurrently with three years of probation.

"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-31   23:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Palmdale (#25)

Von NotHaus was now sentenced to six months of home detention, to run concurrently with three years of probation.

I was too lazy to google it.

He must have been a real criminal mastermind, being convicted of counterfeiting to support terrorism and then 4 years later he gets sentenced to a whole six months of home detention.

Obviously, there was vast overreach by the prosecutors and the courts, recognizing this, stalled until the whole fiasco turned into home detention.

I'd love to know how many millions they spent to prosecute him for a sentence of 6 months home detention. My initial guess is the feds probably spent in the range of $20-$30 million on the case.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-01   5:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: TooConservative (#26)

He must have been a real criminal mastermind

You think so, huh?

No, he wasn't a particularly bright criminal from the looks of it. The notice from the U.S. Mint must have been too difficult for him to comprehend. Just another typical Libertarian fanatic with a huge sense of entitlement. I wonder how many people he managed to sell his counterfeits to?

"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts

Palmdale  posted on  2015-02-01   5:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Palmdale (#27)

I wonder how many people he managed to sell his counterfeits to?

Quite a few actually.

I recall warning people against this. This guy was right on the edge of calling his products money. But he didn't actually cross the line. And that is why the case turned out as it did.

I do recall the FBI raids on his storefront in Indiana, the attempts to track down and confiscate (without remuneration) all of the coins he sold. I doubt those who bought them ever got any money back. Free gold for the feds!

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-01   6:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Gatlin, -- a fool and his gold are soon parted (#13)

In 1913 the average individual income was $800. In 2013 it was $26,364

In 1913, $800 would buy 40 ounces of gold @ $20 an oz.

In 2013, $26,364 would buy approximately 20 ounces of gold @ $1300 an oz.

Inflation anyone?

tpaine  posted on  2015-02-01   11:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: tpaine (#29)

The classic example is buying a nice business suit or a suit for a banker.

A century ago, you could buy most any suit for a $20 gold double-eagle.

Today you'd be talking in the range of $700-$1200 for a comparable business-class suit.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-01   11:39:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: tpaine, -- all you glass half empty libertarians (#29) (Edited)

In 1913 the average individual income was $800. In 2013 it was $26,364
In 1913, $800 would buy 40 ounces of gold @ $20 an oz.
In 2013, $26,364 would buy approximately 20 ounces of gold @ $1300 an oz.
Inflation anyone?

In 1913, $800 would buy you a Ford car for $525 with $275 left over.

In 2013, $26,364 would buy you 2 Ford Fiestas for $26,200 with $164 left over.

Wage rises outpaced inflation anyone?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-01   11:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Gatlin (#31)

In 1913, $800 would buy you a Ford car for $525 with $275 left over.

In 2013, $26,364 would buy you 2 Ford Fiestas for $26,200 with $164 left over.

In 1925, $260 was the price of a Model T, (the equivalent of $3,500 in 2015)

Thus, your silly defence of what, inflation?, is blown out of the water.

tpaine  posted on  2015-02-01   12:22:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Gatlin (#31)

In 1913, $800 would buy you a Ford car for $525 with $275 left over.

In 2013, $26,364 would buy you 2 Ford Fiestas for $26,200 with $164 left over.

You're comparing the era of one-income families with the modern era of two-income families.

Which is why such simplistic comparisons fail so badly over the course of recent centuries. They are inherently flawed with plenty of apples-to-oranges problems.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-01   12:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: TooConservative (#33)

In 1913, $800 would buy you a Ford car for $525 with $275 left over.

In 2013, $26,364 would buy you 2 Ford Fiestas for $26,200 with $164 left over.

You're comparing the era of one-income families with the modern era of two-income families.

Which is why such simplistic comparisons fail so badly over the course of recent centuries. They are inherently flawed with plenty of apples-to-oranges problems.

Don’t try and spin away the fact that Americans are 20 times better off today than Americans were 100 years ago.

The page here will accumulate a series of posts pontificating on how much better our lives are today than 100 years ago.

Multiple reasons explain why there is no better time to be alive than today!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-01   12:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Gatlin (#34)

The page here will accumulate a series of posts pontificating on how much better our lives are today than 100 years ago.

Multiple reasons explain why there is no better time to be alive than today!

In some ways. Such as material comfort.

But not in other ways. Such as moral character.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-01   12:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: tpaine (#32)

In 1913, $800 would buy you a Ford car for $525 with $275 left over. In 2013, $26,364 would buy you 2 Ford Fiestas for $26,200 with $164 left over.

In 1925, $260 was the price of a Model T, (the equivalent of $3,500 in 2015)

Thus, your silly defence of what, inflation?, is blown out of the water.

You libertarians always try to tilt the playing field when you are pinned down.
I will not let you do that....we will keep the playing field level. We were comparing 1913 to 2013.

By 1913 the Ford Model T sold for $550 or $12,067 in today's money. Source.

You can buy two fords today. My comparison is valid. My point still stands.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-01   12:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#35)

The page here will accumulate a series of posts pontificating on how much better our lives are today than 100 years ago. Multiple reasons explain why there is no better time to be alive than today!

In some ways. Such as material comfort.

But not in other ways. Such as moral character.

Oh, I will definitely agree with that.

And what we are seeing with the lack of moral character today is both shocking and depressing.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-01   12:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Gatlin (#36)

In 1913, $800 would buy you a Ford car for $525 with $275 left over. --- In 2013, $26,364 would buy you 2 Ford Fiestas for $26,200 with $164 left over. - --- Wage rises outpaced inflation anyone?

In 1925, $260 was the price of a Model T, (the equivalent of $3,500 in 2015)

Thus, your silly defence of what, wages outpacing inflation?, is blown out of the water.

You libertarians always try to tilt the playing field when you are pinned down. I will not let you do that....we will keep the playing field level. We were comparing 1913 to 2013.

1913 was the first year that Ford perfected his assembly line, which reduced the price of a 'T' to $260 by 1925.

By 1913 the Ford Model T sold for $550 or $12,067 in today's money. Source. - -- You can buy two fords today. My comparison is valid. My point still stands.

So does mine, as in 1925, $260 was (the equivalent of $3,500 in 2015).

Thus, your silly defence of what, wages outpacing inflation?, is blown out of the water.

tpaine  posted on  2015-02-01   13:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: tpaine (#38)

I will leave you to wallow in your gloom and doom, click on this:
     50 Reasons We're Living Through the Greatest Period in World History!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-02-01   13:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone, gatlin, Y'ALL (#35)

Gatlin (#34) --- The page here will accumulate a series of posts pontificating on how much better our lives are today than 100 years ago. Multiple reasons explain why there is no better time to be alive than today!

In some ways. Such as material comfort. --- But not in other ways. Such as moral character. ---- A K A Stone

Yep, no one can dispute that most of us live better today in material comforts than even the upper classes in 1913.

But the difference in individual freedoms is quite a lot. -- Knowing of course, the gatlin faction approves of that development.

tpaine  posted on  2015-02-01   13:33:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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