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Education Title: State Takes Over Arkansas School District That Had To Make Teachers Wear Underwear Things have gone from bad to worse for the public school system in Little Rock, Ark. In August 2013, the district announced — to the great dismay of the teachers union — a dress code that would require teachers to wear underwear. Every single day. Female teachers would have to wear bras, too. And the very worst of all: No spandex. (RELATED: Little Rock School District Will Now Make Teachers Wear Underwear) Now, a mere 18 months later, the Arkansas Department of Education has voted to assume control over management of the school district, the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reports. The narrow 5-4 vote on Wednesday by the state school board effectively wrests control of the district from the local school board (but keeps Superintendent Dexter Suggs on the job on an interim basis). The state school board intervened because the Little Rock school district is home to six schools which are deemed to be under academic distress. Three are high schools. Two are middle schools. One is an elementary school. The 5-4 vote for a takeover came after state education officials had also voted 5-4 against a compromise plan that would have entailed a state-local partnership. “At some point you just have to go in a new direction,” board chairman Sam Ledbetter told the Democrat-Gazette. Ledbetter proved to be the deciding vote on both ballots. “Bottom line, it was the best thing for students,” board member Vicki Saviers told the Little Rock newspaper. Greg Adams, the president of the Little Rock school board, expressed disappointment. “My concern now and my hope is the kids of Little Rock will be served well and that the leadership that’s going to be there will be able to find effective ways for the kids,” Adams said. The August 2013 announcement of a new dress code declared that “foundational garments shall be worn and not visible with respect to color, style, and/or fabric.” T-shirts, patches and other clothing containing slogans for beer, alcohol, drugs, gangs or sex were similarly prohibited. Other verboten garments included cut-off jeans with ragged edges and cut-out dresses. “Tattoos must be covered if at all possible.” No flip-flops. “No see-through or sheer clothing.” No jogging suits, either (though gym and dance teachers got a pass on that one). In a letter to the teachers union rank and file, local teachers union president Cathy Koehler explained her fear that “if an employee refuses to go home and change they can be considered insubordinate and risk losing their job based on an opinion. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts #2. To: Gatlin (#0) The August 2013 announcement of a new dress code You would believe that it wouldn't be necessary to have a dress code for teachers. Common sense seems to be vanishing.
#3. To: Gatlin (#0) Female teachers would have to wear bras, too. And the very worst of all: No spandex. Are bras mostly made of spandex/lycra? Seems contradictory. Do they want them to wear cotton bras or cashmere bras or what? Not that I am any expert at women's undergarments.
#4. To: Otter (#2) You would believe that it wouldn't be necessary to have a dress code for teachers. Common sense seems to be vanishing. Actually, every school district in America going back to colonial times did have very strict laws about teacher grooming and dress and social life.
#5. To: TooConservative (#4) I still don't believe it should be necessary. Teachers know they are role models.
#6. To: Otter (#5) I still don't believe it should be necessary. Teachers know they are role models. And there is the problem. Maybe you just never had any misbehaving teachers.
#7. To: TooConservative (#6) Rules, dress codes and regulations haven't prevented misbehaving teachers......and never will.
#8. To: Gatlin (#0) A couple of questions come to mind. The first is,how did they know some (all?) of the teachers weren't wearing underwear? Qustion 2 is,"Have they now hired a professional underwear inspector to inspect the teachers every day as they enter the school? If they did,I'm betting it would be hilarious to read his job qualifications sheet. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #9. To: Otter (#7) Rules, dress codes and regulations haven't prevented misbehaving teachers......and never will. But you can use them to make them stop being bad examples to their students. As opposed, for instance, to the NYC teacher who had AIDS and knew it and was still molesting 7th grade boys, including anal sex. I don't think they ever did fire him, just sent him to a rubber room for bad teachers and paid him $100 grand a year to read magazines and browse porn. A lot of principals and superintendents would love to get rid of these screwball teachers. But the labor laws and the Lefty types like ACLU defend the bad teachers vigorously.
#10. To: sneakypete (#8) The first is,how did they know some (all?) of the teachers weren't wearing underwear? Most likely, sheer blouses that showed nipples and no bras. I seem to recall teen boys used to notice little things like that.
#11. To: TooConservative (#9) A lot of principals and superintendents would love to get rid of these screwball teachers. But the labor laws and the Lefty types like ACLU defend the bad teachers vigorously. Unions! I don't believe the ACLU is going to attempt to defend an AIDS infected child molester/rapist.
#12. To: Otter, redleghunter (#11) Here's some cases if you have a strong stomach: Teacher molested male student, exposed him to HIV, say police (Louisiana, 2014)There's a list of kids that would have been better off far away from the gayish teachers.
#13. To: TooConservative (#12) Cops: HIV-positive teacher had unprotected sex with student (Richardson, TX, 2014) Kessler admitted to having sex with the boy “at least four times,” and at least once unprotected. The music teacher did not inform the teen of his HIV positive status. Kessler was caught as he attempted to sneak out of the teen’s home, after the teenager’s mother “saw a man leaving her backyard.” She believed the house was being robbed and called police. The 31-year-old woman “was holding Kessler down when officers arrived,” according to the Dallas Morning News. Poster bolded No doubt about it, though all your examples weren't about gays; Shelley Dufresne, Rachel Respess These two Louisiana teachers at Destrehan High School in St. Charles Parish were accused in September, 2014 of having group sex with a student. Nowhere did I see evidence that the ACLU defended any of the accused.
#14. To: Otter (#13) Nowhere did I see evidence that the ACLU defended any of the accused. The labor lawyers and ACLU-affiliated lawyers often take cases on their own and don't actually act under the ACLU banner publicly. You have to do some digging to unearth those connections.
#15. To: TooConservative (#3) Here's a tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3AMRHXMfjs "Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools " (Romans 1:21-22) #16. To: TooConservative, Otter (#14) Nowhere did I see evidence that the ACLU defended any of the accused. Oxymoron!!! So the ACLU did NOT defend any of the accused. You don't have to dig to unearth the truth ... it just jumps out at you.
#17. To: Gatlin (#16) I say he's lying. "The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts #18. To: Gatlin (#16) Oxymoron!!! Obviously, you don't understand the word.
#19. To: Palmdale (#17) So the ACLU did NOT defend any of the accused. I see you two are following the lead of the ACLU admiral, harrowup.
#20. To: sneakypete, TooConservative (#8) The first is,how did they know some (all?) of the teachers weren't wearing underwear? Come on Pete you were a teen once. They can tell. Had a woman geometry teacher in Catholic HS who pushed the strict limits there. That was in the 80s. Today "professional" women dress provocatively and I don't mean the ones in the oldest profession. "Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools " (Romans 1:21-22) #21. To: redleghunter (#15) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3AMRHXMfjs I knew what that vid was going to be before I clicked it. LOL.
#22. To: TooConservative (#19) You got smoked.
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts #23. To: Otter (#5) I still don't believe it should be necessary. Teachers know they are role models. Your opinion is not worthy of any sincere effort. Teachers are nothing more than professionally paid orators of state mandates continuously conditioning the young minds about the glory of the welfare state.
#24. To: Palmdale (#22) You got smoked. First, I would have to care what you think. Which I don't. Second, I would have to be as pathetic as you are to care about it.
#25. To: TooConservative (#24) I would have to care what you think. Which I don't. Hey, Palmdale! Hey, Palmdale. I just wanted you to know that I don't care what you think! Did you hear that? Palmdale? Palmdale?! "The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts #26. To: Palmdale (#25) (Edited) Damn, it's just eating you up, ain't it? LOLAYDA.
#27. To: TooConservative (#26)
"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts #28. To: Palmdale (#27) I've noticed that the more frustrated you are, the larger and more annoying your graphics are.
#29. To: TooConservative (#28) I've noticed Uh huh. Poor you. "The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts #30. To: Pridie.Nones (#23) Your opinion is not worthy of any sincere effort. You believe yours is?
#31. To: Otter (#30) Federal or state paid professional teachers are not role models other than to the state.
#32. To: Pridie.Nones (#31) Your opinion is noted and dismissed.
#33. To: Otter (#32) Certainly you must have an opinion for the reasons of your dismissal. Please let me know.
#34. To: Pridie.Nones (#33) Certainly you must have an opinion for the reasons of your dismissal. Lack of documentation supporting your claim in post #31.
#35. To: TooConservative (#28) scienceblogs.com/dispatch...lu-and-the-nambla-case-1/ Umm, well looky here....
#36. To: Gatlin (#16) Ping to above, seems your favorite people love them some NAMBLA. Most are not surprised. Have you given money or attention to your local NAMBLA chapter?
#37. To: TooConservative (#18) Oxymoron!!! Obviously, you don't understand what you are saying.
#38. To: Palmdale (#17) I say he's lying. He is!
#39. To: Otter (#34) Lack of documentation supporting your claim in post #31. Unions and collectivist bargaining sanctioned by both state/federal government controlling authorities.
#40. To: Pridie.Nones (#39) Still.......Lack of documentation supporting your claim
#41. To: Otter (#40) Still.......Lack of documentation supporting your claim Are you sure you are on the correct forum? I offer my opinion, not a legal discovery; I need no supporting evidence or supporting detail to show that the USA is corrupted with fraud not just based on the highest ranks of government but also the lowest. Perhaps you shall see over time, as I comment on threads or make threads that you shall either agree with me or not.
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