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Title: My Thoughts On The Movie "American Sniper." (Chuck Baldwin)
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Published: Jan 28, 2015
Author: Chuck Baldwin
Post Date: 2015-01-28 13:32:57 by Hondo68
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Keywords: invaded Iraq, under false pretenses, the United Nations
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As with millions of other Americans, I went to see the hugely popular Clint Eastwood-directed movie, "American Sniper." Here are some of my thoughts:
No one, at least not me, doubts the patriotism, courage, and sacrifice of our nation's military personnel--especially our combat forces. I certainly do not share Michael Moore's opinion that Chris Kyle (and our snipers in general) was a coward. Snipers have been effective in helping to wage America's wars since our War for Independence. In lawful combat, snipers are as needful as any other specialized fighting man.
My issue is not with Chris Kyle, or with any other American fighting man. My issue is with the justness of the war Chris Kyle was ordered to fight. Yes, I realize that we have an all-volunteer army; but let's be honest enough to admit that the vast majority of our young people joining the U.S. military sincerely believe that they are doing their patriotic duty by volunteering to conduct war against America's "enemies." They learn nothing else from family, school, movies and television, and church. The singular message they hear is that everything the U.S. military does is right and righteous and that every military engagement we fight is just and justified. I'm sure Chris Kyle was no different.
However, at the risk of sounding unpatriotic, after watching the real-life military exploits of Chris Kyle on the Big Screen, I left the theater extremely angry.
In the first place, Saddam Hussein and the country of Iraq had absolutely NOTHING to do with 9/11. G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney unabashedly lied to the American people about the necessity of America invading Iraq. We invaded Iraq under false pretenses; we occupied Iraq under false pretenses; and we took (and lost) thousands of lives under false pretenses.
Secondly, as I watched the depiction of U.S. Marines going house-to-house and kicking down doors, manhandling old men, women, and children, it occurred to me that these exact same tactics are now being employed by American police agencies against the people of the United States. Our so-called SWAT teams are nothing more than occupying military units. The strategies, philosophies, and tactics are exactly the same as soldiers in a war zone.
Thirdly, everyone, ask yourself these questions, what if instead of the place being Fallujah, Iraq, the place was Kansas City, Missouri? Instead of the invasion force being the U.S. military, it was military troops from Communist China or Russia? What if the occupying snipers were killing American women and children instead of Iraqi women and children? Would we still consider them "heroes?" And would we act any differently from the Iraqi people who were trying to defend their homes and communities against an occupying foreign power?
When I left the theater, I was not angry with Chris Kyle, who was apparently the best at what he did, I was angry with the politicians in Washington, D.C., who sent Chris Kyle into an unjust and undeclared war to wage war against people who posed NO imminent threat to the United States.
I am also angry with an American culture that seems to lack the discernment to recognize the difference between just and unjust war. I am further angered by ubiquitous U.S. propaganda against the Muslim people in general (especially by my Christian brethren).
It seems that hardly anyone recognizes that the power-elite are engaged in global conspiracy to pit the Muslim nations of the Middle East against the West and vice-versa. Our own CIA has been manipulating the internal affairs of the Middle Eastern states for decades. The CIA put Saddam Hussein in power. Where do you think those brand new hundred-dollar bills (in the amount of millions of dollars) stored between the walls of Hussein's house, wrapped in Bank of America wrappers, came from?
The CIA put Osama bin Laden in power. The CIA put ISIS in power. And dare we talk about the illegal drug-running operations that have been conducted by the CIA in both Middle Eastern and Far Eastern nations for at least a half-century?
I am angry with a federal government that cares absolutely nothing about our brave U.S. military personnel. They send them to fight unjust wars only then to treat them like second-class citizens in our VA hospitals. If DC truly cared about our military personnel, they would never ask them to risk life and limb except for those times that are truly necessary for the safety and security of the United States.
America has NO RIGHT to proclaim itself to be the world's policeman. It has NO RIGHT to send U.S. fighting men to vindicate the policies and prejudices of the United Nations. The President of the U.S. has NO RIGHT to invade and occupy foreign countries without a Declaration of War by Congress.
I am angry because in the name of fighting the War on Terror around the world, the American people are quickly losing the liberties guaranteed in our Constitution's Bill of Rights. And out of a misguided spirit of patriotism, the majority of the American people seem fine with it.
I am angry because our brave military troops are being asked to give their arms and legs and families and lives for the selfish, parochial, political, and economic interests of the ruling elite--and are also asked to take the lives of thousands of innocents in the process.
If you ask me, Chris Kyle was the victim of a sadistic and out-of-control federal leviathan that respects nothing. Not the rule of law. Not liberty--at home or abroad. Not family--our own military families or the families of other nations. Not constitutional government. Not national borders--our own or anyone else's. And certainly not the sacredness of life.
Yes, I left the movie "American Sniper" angry.
Poster Comment:
I voted for Chuck Baldwin (Constitution Party/AIP) twice. Once as VP to Michael Peroutka in '04, and as their Presidential candidate in '08.
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If you have a weak mind - stomach ... stay out of politics - operating rooms --- let the real people get the job done !
join the christian science religion - reading - dying rooms !
you kooks - chuck baldwin - all deserve the Benghazi experience !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
#2. To: BorisY (#1)
have a weak mind -kooks - win - all
You sure do!
You win the Yellow Cake.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#3. To: hondo68 (#2)
I hope - pray - predict ... someone from your canary posse --- bfs you to death !
warning
comprehension level about early hs !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
#4. To: hondo68 (#2)
This article is spot on. Baldwin knocks it out of the park again
Of course you knew that the neocon Byeltsin would throw a hissy fit.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#5. To: hondo68 (#0)
Secondly, as I watched the depiction of U.S. Marines going house-to-house and kicking down doors, manhandling old men, women, and children, it occurred to me that these exact same tactics are now being employed by American police agencies against the people of the United States. Our so-called SWAT teams are nothing more than occupying military units. The strategies, philosophies, and tactics are exactly the same as soldiers in a war zone.
And yet, there are those who say cops in the United States, even in small towns need armored vehicles to "keep us safe".
That's why I just have to shake my head when I see the yahoos here post about America not becoming a police state.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#6. To: Deckard (#4) (Edited)
The CIA put Osama bin Laden in power.
to fight the ussr ...
there's another war going on --- you're oblivious too !
you kooks can think ... the same stupid out of context bs --- over - over again !
Your drug soused - brain damage - psychic baby not growing up trauma ... out of reality - context --- explains your psychosis very clearly !
att - mod x
comprehension level 40 % sobriety - consciousness
20 % above kook - quack level
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
#7. To: hondo68, Redleghunter (#0)
I am also angry with an American culture that seems to lack the discernment to recognize the difference between just and unjust war. I am further angered by ubiquitous U.S. propaganda against the Muslim people in general (especially by my Christian brethren).It seems that hardly anyone recognizes that the power-elite are engaged in global conspiracy to pit the Muslim nations of the Middle East against the West and vice-versa. Our own CIA has been manipulating the internal affairs of the Middle Eastern states for decades. T
Firstly, I agree some wars are unjust. The PT boats attacking our ships were non-existent.
Secondly, I know for a fact Saddam had WMD, but even so I am not saying that justified the war.
Finally, the Muslims have been at war attacking the Christians since the time of Mohammed, and wars with them are clearly justified.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
#8. To: hondo68 (#0)
"it occurred to me that these exact same tactics are now being employed by American police agencies against the people of the United States."
Exact? Nah. In the U.S., the police need a no-knock warrant from a judge.
#9. To: misterwhite, Tricky Dicky No Knock (#8)
In the U.S., the police need a no-knock warrant
That's more theoretical than real. Frequently they don't have one, and there are no consequences.
So no, they don't really need one. Copsuckers encourage and excuse, authorities ignoring the rule of law.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#10. To: GarySpFC, hondo68, Redleghunter (#7)
I know for a fact Saddam had WMD,
Keep drinking that Bush kool-aid.
Powell Blames Himself, Others For Specious Iraq WMD Claims to U.N.
In his final word, the CIA’s top weapons inspector in Iraq said Monday that the hunt for weapons of mass destruction has “gone as far as feasible” and has found nothing, closing an investigation into the purported programs of Saddam Hussein that were used to justify the 2003 invasion.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#11. To: GarySpFC (#7)
Finally, the Muslims have been at war attacking the Christians since the time of Mohammed, and wars with them are clearly justified.
Islam must be expunged from the face of the Earth for the good and safety of all people living on the Earth.
#12. To: Deckard (#10)
In his final word, the CIA’s top weapons inspector in Iraq said Monday that the hunt for weapons of mass destruction has “gone as far as feasible” and has found nothing, closing an investigation into the purported programs of Saddam Hussein that were used to justify the 2003 invasion.
Saddam Hussein was guilty of nothing. He got his butt kicked decisively by Schwartkopf 10 years earlier and didn't want any more of THAT. He was a defeated aging man with a boisterous mouth trying to hold on to what he had. Little boy Georgie Bush was a failing president who desperately needed to construct an image of doing something. Hussein was an easy target to something on. Bush conjured up a lie about Hussein's having weapons of mass destruction, attacked, hung up a big sign on an aircraft carrier saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED and his poll numbers went up astronomically, but only temporarily. It was a show business production to satisfy idiots.
With the demise of Hussein, Islamic forces moved in to take his place and the ME was destabilized. We're in a bigger mess now than when we started.
That's the result of electing four little kids in a row as President.
#13. To: rlk (#11)
Islam must be expunged from the face of the Earth for the good and safety of all people living on the Earth.
I've read your posts.
If it were up to you, all religious believers would be put to death.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#14. To: Deckard (#13) (Edited)
I've read your posts.If it were up to you, all religious believers would be put to death.
That's not true. If religious people mind their own business, I have no serious quarrel with them. When I say there is no evidence that God intervenes in the affairs of mankind or that prayer does not negate physical or psychological law, religious people have a tantrum and begin storming at me with childish arguments, then I storm back. Religion instills too much masochism in people. If you want to practice masochism privately, thet's fine with me. If you want to practice it in the voting booth, it's destructive and we won't get along.
End of conversation. I'm busy with other things.
#15. To: hondo68 (#0)
Jessie Ventura said he will not see 'American Sniper' and that Kyle is no hero.
His statement should come as no surprise to anyone.
#16. To: GarySpFC (#7)
Secondly, I know for a fact Saddam had WMD...
Get out of town!
Challenge!
#17. To: hondo68 (#0)
I certainly do not share Michael Moore's opinion that Chris Kyle (and our snipers in general) was a coward.
Kid Rock’s response to the comments made by Michael Moore and Seth Rogen were quite vivid on Twitter. “F*** you Michael Moore, you’re a piece of s*** and your uncle would be ashamed of you,” he wrote. “Seth Rogen, your uncle probably molested you. I hope both of you catch a fist to the face soon. God bless you, Chris Kyle. Thank you for your service.”
#18. To: Deckard (#10)
In his final word, the CIA’s top weapons inspector in Iraq said Monday that the hunt for weapons of mass destruction has “gone as far as feasible” and has found nothing, closing an investigation into the purported programs of Saddam Hussein that were used to justify the 2003 invasion.
Wow! I see we have another Internet warrior, with all the answers.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
#19. To: rlk (#12)
Bush conjured up a lie about Hussein's having weapons of mass destruction, attacked, hung up a big sign on an aircraft carrier saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED and his poll numbers went up astronomically, but only temporarily. It was a show business production to satisfy idiots.
If you say so, then it must be true.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
#20. To: Fred Mertz (#16)
Get out of town!Challenge!
Why?
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
#21. To: GarySpFC (#18)
I personally know two senior officers watching a SF drone and satellite feed from ARCENT HQs a few weeks before OIF kicked off. The vehicles and payload left no room for interpretation from their observations and of the A Team with eyes on. However requests to NCA to do something to halt and exploit the convoy were denied.
So yes, GWB is at fault for not snagging the smoking gun and possibly avoiding a protracted war.
" For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Hebrews 4:12)
#22. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)
And dare we talk about the illegal drug-running operations that have been conducted by the CIA in both Middle Eastern and Far Eastern nations for at least a half-century?
Middle and Far East?
Nah just look at 2245 Slocum Road.
http://gazette.com/drug-pipeline...eyton-ranch/article/15896
Must've been having a snorathon down the road at NORAD/Peterson to see who could win the most L.I.F.E.R. DV points.... while the drugs were flowing freely onto the private landing strip right under their noses.
Observe that the property, among others, is still listed under the same owner.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%...Z++%22Operation+Choque%22
http://land.elpasoco.com/SearchR...RD&dir=&from=2245&to=2245
http://land.elpasoco.com/SearchR...pe=&dir=&from=0&to=999999
Cluster FAIL.
#23. To: redleghunter (#21)
I personally know two senior officers watching a SF drone and satellite feed from ARCENT HQs a few weeks before OIF kicked off. The vehicles and payload left no room for interpretation from their observations and of the A Team with eyes on. However requests to NCA to do something to halt and exploit the convoy were denied.So yes, GWB is at fault for not snagging the smoking gun and possibly avoiding a protracted war.
That was in part what I was referring to in my post. Additionally, you might recall Jordan was later targeted.
“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org
#24. To: GarySpFC, hondo68, Redleghunter, All (#7)
Secondly, I know for a fact Saddam had WMD, but even so I am not saying that justified the war.
Everyone in the world knows that Saddam had WMDs and used them. The questions have always been (1) what happen to the stockpile, (2)was he making more. To this day no-one, least of all the prick Blix, knows anything for sure about the stockpile.
#25. To: GarySpFC (#19) (Edited)
If you say so, then it must be true.
You're right about that! Thank you for the recognition. Spread the word.
#26. To: hondo68 (#0)
Mr. Moore-Good afternoon there sweetheart, I hope this finds you alive and well. You can thank our men and women of the armed forces for that, by the way, and that also includes us “cowardly snipers”. It seems you’ve found time between licking the jelly off your fingers and releasing your grasp of a bear claw to tweet some junk about snipers being cowards.
My buddies and I got a good laugh over the tweet, so I thank you. For a guy worth $50 million dollars, you sure have quite a bit to bitch and cry about. I guess like a moth to flame, you too gravitate towards things that are popular and in the moment — in this case it’s snipers. Too bad for you that your attempt at being relevant via your 70+ year old family experience has failed. It has only made you look dumber than a bag of hammers. Next time you should try something more original than going after snipers for one reason or another…that was so last month.
It’s typical of “men” like you to criticize the intestinal fortitude, focus, discipline and patriotism of a sniper. It must stem from an inferiority complex or something. But hey, it’s okay cupcake. We snipers are thick skinned and the efforts of world class turds such as yourself to portray us in a negative light only makes us laugh. If you and I were in the same room, I’d throw you a smile and gently pat you on the head knowing you’re nothing more than a mouth breathing, Crisco sweating waste of space not even worthy of being in the presence of a sniper. It’s almost funny how people like you preach things like ‘acceptance’ and ‘not passing judgment’ or ‘labeling people’, but then are the first to do so when a person is in some way dissimilar from you.
So tenderfoot, I leave you with this final thought: what if you found yourself in some sort of hostage situation where you were held at knife-point by some crazed person and they were dead set on making an example of you by bleeding you out on Hollywood Blvd in front of the world, and the only way out was with the precision aimed fire of a sniper? Would you want that coward to take the shot? Because knowing how you feel about snipers such as myself and your hatred of firearms, I’d probably drop the mag, roll the bolt and go get a Jack & Coke before helping you out.
Very Respectfully,
Sikes
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.â€
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