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To: Operation 40 (#0) Bull! The heat from the fires was hot enough to weaken the steel, and with the weight of the forces involved I don't doubt for a second the steel beams were bent. That said, there is no way any demolitionist would have used thermite or thermate in the demolition process. The Truthers are committed to the thermite- thermite agenda and will jump off cliffs to perpetuate a lie. GarySpFC  posted on  2015-01-23   14:34:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: GarySpFC (#2) Bull! The heat from the fires was hot enough to weaken the steel, and with the weight of the forces involved I don't doubt for a second the steel beams were bent. That said, there is no way any demolitionist would have used thermite or thermate in the demolition process. The Truthers are committed to the thermite- thermite agenda and will jump off cliffs to perpetuate a lie. That's correct. The novel construction of the building was not equipped to handle it. Notice to 9-ll truthers. Don't align your selves with stupidity in attempts to attribute blame to the federal government. If you do, when the time comes that you actually have something intelligent to say, you will be dismissed. rlk  posted on  2015-01-23   16:05:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: rlk (#19) That's correct. The novel construction of the building was not equipped to handle it. The Truthers claim the steel melted, but in reality what happened was it was just weakened. There simply wasn't enough heat there to melt steel beams or columns. GarySpFC  posted on  2015-01-23   18:26:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: GarySpFC (#20) (Edited) The Truthers claim the steel melted, but in reality what happened was it was just weakened. Balderdash! The towers fell straight down into their own footprints. If your scenario was correct, the building would have tipped over at the point of impact and Then collapsed. And the original article, the molten steel that was found in the rubble weeks afterward? Workers Reported Molten Metal in Ground Zero Rubble Maybe you should stick to selling insurance "Gary". Deckard  posted on  2015-01-23   18:33:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: Deckard (#21) “But they fell straight down into their own footprint.” PROTEC COMMENT: They did not. They followed the path of least resistance, and there was a lot of resistance. Any discussion of how the towers fell on 9/11 requires a fundamental understanding of how buildings collapse and an examination of the damage inflicted upon adjacent structures that morning. With very few exceptions, a tall office building (i.e., 20+ stories) cannot be made to tip over like a tree. Reinforced concrete smokestacks and industrial towers can, due to their small footprint and inherently monolithic properties. However, because the supporting elements in a typical human-inhabited building are spread over a larger area to accommodate living and work space, they are not nearly as rigid, and the laws of gravity cause them to begin collapsing downward upon being weakened or tipped off center to a certain point. Blasters are well aware of this and often rely on this principle in designing upper-floor charge patterns to maximize breakage and in predicting debris drop zones. The collapse of towers 1 and 2 followed this principle exactly. When the impact floors of both towers eventually failed, the upper sections did not simply tumble over onto the street below, rather they tilted while simultaneously collapsing downward. One primary difference between these two co llapses and a typical building implosion was that the initial failures occurred very high up on the structures, which lead to an extended-duration “pancake-like” effect down to the ground. With the weight and mass of the upper sections forcing the floor trusses below rapidly downward, there was no way for outer perimeter walls to fall in, so they had to fall out. A review of all photographic images clearly show about 95% of falling debris being forced away from the footprint of the structure, creating a giant “mushroom” effect around its perimeter. As we now know, significant amounts of heavy structural debris rained down for blocks around the site. Many of the closest WTC buildings were completely destroyed and others heavily damaged. Predictably, the north tower’s collapse caused slightly more ancillary damage than the south tower, as its impact point was higher and thus a larger volume of debris was projected farther from its footprint. Video of the north tower collapse clearly shows a roughly 50-story tall section of the building shearing away intact and laying out towards the west, heavily damaging the American Express Building and others on the adjacent block. Aerial photos taken just after both collapses show massive volumes of debris that impacted WTC 7 (and other buildings to the north), the effects of which were directly responsible for the intense fires within that structure. These facts indicate that a relatively small amount of structural support debris actually landed straight down within the towers’ footprints, making this event notably dissimilar to a planned demolition event. GarySpFC  posted on  2015-01-23   19:06:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: GarySpFC (#22) Uh, numerous firefighters and first responders heard explosions. Your "theory" is nothing but hot air. Deckard  posted on  2015-01-23   19:09:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: Deckard (#23) Hot air comes from those who don't have a clue regarding the nature of explosives. GarySpFC  posted on  2015-01-23   19:20:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 25. #26. To: GarySpFC (#25) Hot air comes from those who don't have a clue regarding the nature of explosives. Well, excuse me for not trusting some anonymous poster on an obscure chat site who "claims" to have demolition experience and also regurgitates the official government fairy tale concerning 9/11. It's likely that you are a disinformation operative. Deckard  posted on  2015-01-23 21:19:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 25. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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